Carter?!?!

[toomanysides]

My problem is that she wasn't even mentioned. Surely Carter would be much more helpful than Jeannie. They could of mention she was doing something else, and was busy administrating. There is no way Carter in all these years hasn't done coding. Everything (not everything but a lot of the advance tech stuff) is based on coding.

On the other hand The Seer did establish that Carter did not have a place in this project (busy doing other things) nor had the expertise on this kind of replicator coding. At least she would have at good grasp of what McKay is talking about. Honestly I grieve every time she is deprived of jumping in and helping out with the science/tech stuff. Wasted talents/experience. But after all these years Carter deserves to lead something big like Atlantis, and it makes sense.

[Amalthea]

Ok several points:

1. Since it was obviously a "Rodney" episode, putting Carter in there would have messed it up since deep down, we all know Carter is smarter than Rodney. This was firmly established in SG1 so having her there would have upstaged Rodney.
2. As many people have noted, Carter is Milky Way Replicators, not Pegasus Replicators. They're different beasts.
3. She's a military officer before she's a doctor. Carter herself establishes this in the first ever episode of SG1. Therefore, while I agree it is a waste of a brilliant resource to have her in a management position, being a colonel is obviously important to her. Therefore, she does what TPTB tells her to. If all she ever wanted to do was physics, she'd be Doctor Carter.
4. Landry wasn't in the episode either. We can just presume all the meetings happened without having to see them take place. We are used to seeing Carter every day, thanks to SG1, but really, did we see Hammond or Landry every episode?

[jenks]

My problem is that she wasn't even mentioned. Surely Carter would be much more helpful than Jeannie. They could of mention she was doing something else, and was busy administrating. There is no way Carter in all these years hasn't done coding. Everything (not everything but a lot of the advance tech stuff) is based on coding.

Why would Carter be more help than Jeannie?

[Uber]

the un-show and realistic answer???

chances are this episode was written specifically to accomodate AT's time doing the movies, thus she likely wasn't available and they did the eps without her because the actress couldnht' be in two places at the same time

Clone Amanda.

Problem solved kthx.

[Uber]

In 10 plus years of Carter being in the SG universe, we have never seen her do anything that relates to writing or tinkering with computer code. She wouldn't have been of any use.

So writing the code to connect the computer to the stargate, assisting in writing the virus to take out Ba'al's stargate, assisting in writing the subroutines to allow O'Neill's 302 to go into hyperspace on autopilot doesn't count?

BTW my answer is there should have been a throwaway line at the beginning of the episode that she too was as stumped as the rest of the science team as they're begging Meredith to email his sister.

[jenks]

So writing the code to connect the computer to the stargate, assisting in writing the virus to take out Ba'al's stargate, assisting in writing the subroutines to allow O'Neill's 302 to go into hyperspace on autopilot doesn't count?

No it doesn't.

[majorsal]

My problem is that she wasn't even mentioned. Surely Carter would be much more helpful than Jeannie. They could of mention she was doing something else, and was busy administrating. There is no way Carter in all these years hasn't done coding. Everything (not everything but a lot of the advance tech stuff) is based on coding.

i'd like some explanation of when sam's not there, seeing as she's the commanding officer. of course, they could say she's visiting hubby o'neill in washington for a weekender.

On the other hand The Seer did establish that Carter did not have a place in this project (busy doing other things) nor had the expertise on this kind of replicator coding. At least she would have at good grasp of what McKay is talking about. Honestly I grieve every time she is deprived of jumping in and helping out with the science/tech stuff. Wasted talents/experience. But after all these years Carter deserves to lead something big like Atlantis, and it makes sense.

it is hard to see sam not being the go-to-person, but she's got other responsibilities now. and if they SHOW those responsibilities in the show, all the more better!




sally

[Lone Wolf]

Ok several points:

1. Since it was obviously a "Rodney" episode, putting Carter in there would have messed it up since deep down, we all know Carter is smarter than Rodney. This was firmly established in SG1 so having her there would have upstaged Rodney.

You know, this is strange but I always felt Rodney was smarter than Sam. I think he screws up easyer because he`s arrogant, nervous and takes bigger risks (don`t throw "blowing up a star" in my face) but deep down I think he might be the smarter one of them. She`s more competent though because she`s more disciplined.

But anyway, this is a very subjective topic since it`s hard to say one person is definately smarter than the other.

[Uber]

No it doesn't.

So writing and editing code has nothing to do with writing and editing code.

Okie dokie.

[jenks]

So writing and editing code has nothing to do with writing and editing code.

That's not what I said though is it? What has Asuran base code got to do with with any other coding she's worked with? It's not like they're even similar, the Asuran code is all in Ancient for starters.

[scholar]

My problem is that she wasn't even mentioned. Surely Carter would be much more helpful than Jeannie. They could of mention she was doing something else, and was busy administrating. There is no way Carter in all these years hasn't done coding. Everything (not everything but a lot of the advance tech stuff) is based on coding.

Carter didn't need to be mentioned. Carter is now an admin first, scientist last. Jeannie has been shown to be incredibly intelligent. In both episodes she's been in, they have alluded to the point that she is smarter then Rodney. Plus, by how it was suggested to Rodney to just ask "her" and how she said it was Rodney "again" needing help, I think this was hardly the only time since the previous episode that he come to her for help. Besides, it was Wallace, not the SGC, that picked her to work on this.

[Skydiver]

So writing the code to connect the computer to the stargate, assisting in writing the virus to take out Ba'al's stargate, assisting in writing the subroutines to allow O'Neill's 302 to go into hyperspace on autopilot doesn't count?

BTW my answer is there should have been a throwaway line at the beginning of the episode that she too was as stumped as the rest of the science team as they're begging Meredith to email his sister.

it is kind of odd that there was no mention of carter. But they have a bad habit of doing that. notice that there was also no mention of 'teyla's off doing.....' to explain her absence either.

It's almost like they forget that there are characters in teh show that may not be in the episode and forget to insert lines to explain their absence

[prion]

Why would Landry, O'Neill, and/or Woolsey allow a Wraith to come to Earth (who previously hid a subspace transponder/tracking device on himself to reveal Atlantis' location to his brethren) to save a solitary, non-Military, non-American woman?

Because scores of humans are being bumped off in the Pegasus Galaxy, and the Wraith (and Rodney) are the key folk to solving that problem.

Ripple does have a point though. Not having the time to do something like this is a great example of why Carter should NOT be in charge, of Atlantis or anything else for that matter, IMHO. I think it's a rabid misuse of resources. I'd prefer to keep people doing what they are the best at rather than lose them to "administrative duties". Such a waste. But then again, just my personal opinion.

It's called promotion. To get the bigger bucks, prestige, etc. you move up. If Sam declined the promotion, she'd be stuck and would never get another offer. To have her in the lab working on science stuff all the time would be totally unrealistic (yeah, I know it's scifi but it's nice to have a little bit of realism once in a while).

[starfox]

it is kind of odd that there was no mention of carter. But they have a bad habit of doing that. notice that there was also no mention of 'teyla's off doing.....' to explain her absence either.

It's almost like they forget that there are characters in teh show that may not be in the episode and forget to insert lines to explain their absence

The writers don't need to explain absences in cases like this. They expect us to realize that the CO of the whole base can't go off-world at the drop of a hat; how many times did we seen Hammond or Landry or Weir off-world? If you saw the last few episodes, you know Teyla's got her own problems to deal with, and if you're familiar with the actors you know that Rachel's pregnancy is cutting down on her screen time this season and Amanda's busy with the SG-1 movies. Explaining stuff like this would be a waste of screen time that could be devoted to things that are actually important to the plot.

[Uber]

That's not what I said though is it? What has Asuran base code got to do with with any other coding she's worked with? It's not like they're even similar, the Asuran code is all in Ancient for starters.

Ah but see I wasn't answering you to begin with....I was answering Avenger, who mentioned nothing of the Asurans or their base code but who had suggested Sam had never done anything related to computer programming coding:

In 10 plus years of Carter being in the SG universe, we have never seen her do anything that relates to writing or tinkering with computer code. She wouldn't have been of any use.

[Jumper_One]

The writers don't need to explain absences in cases like this. They expect us to realize that the CO of the whole base can't go off-world at the drop of a hat; how many times did we seen Hammond or Landry or Weir off-world? If you saw the last few episodes, you know Teyla's got her own problems to deal with, and if you're familiar with the actors you know that Rachel's pregnancy is cutting down on her screen time this season and Amanda's busy with the SG-1 movies. Explaining stuff like this would be a waste of screen time that could be devoted to things that are actually important to the plot.

you're right TBTB don't need to explain absences but it'd be nice to at least mention a missing person (in this case Sam and Teyla). besides it would only take a few seconds

[prion]

you're right TBTB don't need to explain absences but it'd be nice to at least mention a missing person (in this case Sam and Teyla). besides it would only take a few seconds

A mention of a name can easily be wound into a sentence, like "Carter sends her regards," or something like that.

[Jumper_One]

A mention of a name can easily be wound into a sentence, like "Carter sends her regards," or something like that.

exactly. I mean even Ronon didn't need to be there, he didn't do anything Shep or someone else couldn't have done. Teyla could be offworld or dealing with baby stuff or whatever, and someone should've at least mentioned Sam when Todd was transferred to Earth

[Jeffala]

A mention of a name can easily be wound into a sentence, like "Carter sends her regards," or something like that.

Sounds like code words.

"The crow flies at midnight."

[Myles]

What's the point of just mentioning someone if it doesn't contribute to anything? Just so people remember they're on the show? I agree that Ronon probably wasn't needed, but if he wasn't there an explanation saying this isn't Ronon's type of mission isn't needed. Just like saying Carter's busy running a base and Teyla is investigating her missing people isn't needed either. Unless they could put it in some context that contributes to plot, it seems pointless.