Gateworld Virtual Fleet 3.0!

[Buba uognarf]

By the way, to ther lurkers, please join in, we dont bite and everyones welcome, seriously, join in There are loads of people in the active viewers who i dont recognise and thats a great thing, but please post too

I agree ^^^^^^^^

As for voting we need to sort out whether we all agree with the above system Immhotep has posted and then what ships to do first etc...

[Aroura-Gate]

i second that

[JoNzA]

I agree ^^^^^^^^

As for voting we need to sort out whether we all agree with the above system Immhotep has posted and then what ships to do first etc...

I agree as well, but what about smaller ships such as fighters, scoutships and bombers?

[immhotep]

Scoutships, bombers fighters, civilian ships, dropships, cargo ships, shuttles and all the can be part of the voting process but due to thier small size they are practically free from being selected, we have the ability to build those ships without even worrying about the price. Cept fighters and Bombers which are a big part of our arsenol.

[ZakeD]

OK heres my Idea for ship submissions. I had a big chart and everything which you can see here:
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/5...estableyz9.jpg

However i cant really make sense of that table so i will try and explain what i mean by it. In 3.0 our place in the universe has changed, our fleet is the same size, roughly in terms of individual units but its composition is going to be much different. Because we are the fifth race we have to divert a portion of our fleet to the alliance for the defense of the alliance domain, the entire local group, all of the home bases of the alliance and its allies. This fleet is the alliance support fleet, which is being commanded by Admiral Richardson.

There are also new two roles for our fleet (fleet's), defense and offense/Recon/Exploration. Defense is the role that most of our older ships will be put in too. Defense of Earth and our allies and facilities and colonies etc. In all Galaxies. The Offensive fleet, the one which will travel out amoung the stars for us as the fifth race, thats the main one which will be open to voting in.

We are essentially splitting the fleet in to 3 distinct roles, all of our fleets are going to need significant resources to restock their numbers. This will allow new classes and ships and technologies to be implemented, the finances for this will come from the destruction of the Adnihlo, the war bounty from their destruction was significant, on all their worlds and ships they had mined and gathered resources, which we had plundered and sought out (the people we rescued directed us to the vaults holding these resources). We have the resources to rebuild and restructure our fleet, we have the technology to build it quickly. We also have the technology to upgrade it significantly. However because each class could end up with 3 ships representing it (in 3 different roles, Ie Daedalus would be the support BC, Dante would be the defense BC and another ship would become the exploration BC) there could be a quite complicated voting and submission process. Which would require alot of very high quality specs, from my initial read through, to fill up every class with a ship, in each roles, we would need 39 different ships. Only 13 of which currently exist. Thats 26 new vessels in our fleet. But they would all be of much lower numbers. Wheras in 2.0 the 13 vessels had hundreds of units, only dozens could be produced of each class for each role. The current numbers would not be affected of course, so older ships would outnumber new ones significantly. But we would end up with a much more diverse fleet with a range of skills and areas of specialization that nobody has matched. Which would need to be matched in the submission of ships for the voting process as well.

What do people think? Seriously because there could be alot of ramifications by taking this system, alternatives would be nice?

Tep

What's with designating defense and offensive fleets? I mean, you can put a bunch of ships in reserve or something and say it's a defense fleet, but I don't like this. Just organize it similar to the US navy. Have commands for different areas of the galaxy, designate fleets that are parts of those commands, make task forces for specific things..stuff like that.

We had a battleship that tried this, it was far to complicated and was never used I am preparing such a list right now with Buba, we working on it, will be with you soon.

And then there's the Columbia and Challenger with their multi-mission pods..

[Extrenix]

I love your website ZakeD !

[immhotep]

What's with designating defense and offensive fleets? I mean, you can put a bunch of ships in reserve or something and say it's a defense fleet, but I don't like this. Just organize it similar to the US navy. Have commands for different areas of the galaxy, designate fleets that are parts of those commands, make task forces for specific things..stuff like that.

Explain that fully.

[ManiacMike]

what am I suposed to notice? lol

It acted like a little animation. Every time I took a render, it was almost in the same area every time. And it moved along like an animation.

Eh, I guess it wasent so funny now that I look at it.

lol The things that are funny at 5am in the morning lol

[Crazy Tom]

what i reallt hate about these fleets is that thir so EXTRMLY cluttered.
too much stuff. we should try to keep it simple and original, go back to the basics for 3.0.

[Aroura-Gate]

not a bad idea actually big ships with specific roles, medium ships with multi roles, and small ships for what they were desgiend to do.


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[ZakeD]

Explain that fully.

Uhm..well first, you'd have unified command thingers which command forces from more than one service and are responsible for operations in different parts of the galaxy. All the branches serving in its area of responsibility are under it's command. For the navy, you have naval commands, which are responsible for operations in different parts of the galaxy and are made up of fleets, task forces, and type commands. The fleets and naval commands don't do independent operations, along with the other services they provide the forces the unified commands use to do whatever it is they're doing.

what i reallt hate about these fleets is that thir so EXTRMLY cluttered.
too much stuff. we should try to keep it simple and original, go back to the basics for 3.0.

I actually agree.

[IWKYZerocool]

Just thinking of weapons wise, Could you put a missle platform that once the coordinators in place go into the same dimesion as the device we found in Arthurs Mantle. Just a thought.... Also what about a carrier that has a Ancient satellite beam weapon as the main weapon..

Also Imm I like ur avatar

[Crazy Tom]

Just thinking of weapons wise, Could you put a missle platform that once the coordinators in place go into the same dimesion as the device we found in Arthurs Mantle. Just a thought.... Also what about a carrier that has a Ancient satellite beam weapon as the main weapon..

Also Imm I like ur avatar

arthur's mantle was made by an unascended anchinet(remerber how smart those guys were), i don't think we cou;ld make one small enought(or cheap enough) for missle use.

and before we star pulling classes out of thin air, we should first think what something is gonna do and then make a class for it.

eg. destroyers are suposed to hunt down submarines, carrieers exist because they can struke beyond the horison via fighters. there is no horison in space so we r gonna have to figure out what it's gonna be for. the deadalus carries fighter for defence. maybe the space carrier will act more as a repair & rearm platform for ships.

[ZakeD]

arthur's mantle was made by an unascended anchinet(remerber how smart those guys were), i don't think we cou;ld make one small enought(or cheap enough) for missle use.

and before we star pulling classes out of thin air, we should first think what something is gonna do and then make a class for it.

eg. destroyers are suposed to hunt down submarines, carrieers exist because they can struke beyond the horison via fighters. there is no horison in space so we r gonna have to figure out what it's gonna be for. the deadalus carries fighter for defence. maybe the space carrier will act more as a repair & rearm platform for ships.

Destroyers are supposed to escorting bigger ships, which is what they do in the fleet. Carriers can use fighters or bombers to pwn our retarded enemies who usually lack point defense weapons and also use fighters.

[Crazy Tom]

Destroyers are supposed to escorting bigger ships, which is what they do in the fleet. Carriers can use fighters or bombers to pwn our retarded enemies who usually lack point defense weapons and also use fighters.

if they don't use PD guns but have fighters why not sne in a battleship, they can't shoot down our missles but their fighters are useless cuz we got PD guns.
my point is space is a different enviroment, wet navy rules don't translate evenly into space.

[immhotep]

Just thinking of weapons wise, Could you put a missle platform that once the coordinators in place go into the same dimesion as the device we found in Arthurs Mantle. Just a thought.... Also what about a carrier that has a Ancient satellite beam weapon as the main weapon..

We havent used Merlins technology in the fleet, and Unending actually alot of S10 didnt happen in the fleet universe. As to the Satalite beam weapon, Gaias beam is based on that weapon therefore its in the fleet but it wont be going on other ships unless someone can give us a good reason for it to be there.

[Crazy Tom]

with bigger labels

ps. how do u unatach something

[immhotep]

Dont but use a different image hoster:

www.imageshack.us

[Aroura-Gate]

tep what do you think of adding boarding craft as a tachic to the fleet

[immhotep]

I like it, yeah that can be added without any trouble.