You know how when the teams are out "exploring" and when they think they've seen something they try to halt the group as quickly and silently as possible with an abrupt raising of the arm with the hand in a fist. In both Atlantis and SG1 episodes I've seen members go bumping into other members because they were talking or not paying attention and walked into people that had stopped. So why not just say "halt!" or something if the situation is not a bad-guys-around-the-corner level of dangerous... sometimes it also seems a silly convention considering how many non-civilians and aliens are in the teams...
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if you say halt it alerts a potential enemy and stops you from hearing it as well as you could, lets face it SO and recon teams are usually behind enemy lines, thus shouting stop wouldn't be a good idea even primitive hunters would have something similar.
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Originally posted by placid View PostYou know how when the teams are out "exploring" and when they think they've seen something they try to halt the group as quickly and silently as possible with an abrupt raising of the arm with the hand in a fist. In both Atlantis and SG1 episodes I've seen members go bumping into other members because they were talking or not paying attention and walked into people that had stopped. So why not just say "halt!" or something if the situation is not a bad-guys-around-the-corner level of dangerous... sometimes it also seems a silly convention considering how many non-civilians and aliens are in the teams...
Simply it's what they do in real life militiaries around the world. So it's obviously efficient & effective otherwise they wouldn't be using it.
If you detect danger or a threat then there is no way in hell you'll be risking telling them to halt & potentially give your position away or alert the enemy to your presence. That's the whole reason the hand signals were made up so that orders could be given without the need for verbal communications. If they had civilians tagging along on dangerous missions, then I'm sure there would be a problem, but it doesn't happen often, so I don't see any problem. Especially since it's authentic techniques that are used in real life by regular military soldiers to S.W.A.T to special ops members.
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Originally posted by placid View PostYou know how when the teams are out "exploring" and when they think they've seen something they try to halt the group as quickly and silently as possible with an abrupt raising of the arm with the hand in a fist. In both Atlantis and SG1 episodes I've seen members go bumping into other members because they were talking or not paying attention and walked into people that had stopped. So why not just say "halt!" or something if the situation is not a bad-guys-around-the-corner level of dangerous... sometimes it also seems a silly convention considering how many non-civilians and aliens are in the teams...
I like McKay, but I wish Ronan would punch him in the gut for talking too much. lol
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I like the way they did a little tongue in cheek joke of this in 'Moebius'. When they are on Chulak to recruit the alternate timeline Teal'c Jack does the stop sign. All but Daniel and 'geeky' Sam crouch down leaving them standing looking bewildered for a moment before they follow suit.
I guess it takes time to get the civilian parts of the SG teams to accept this sort of signal and react automatically to it.
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Originally posted by Krisz View PostI like the way they did a little tongue in cheek joke of this in 'Moebius'. When they are on Chulak to recruit the alternate timeline Teal'c Jack does the stop sign. All but Daniel and 'geeky' Sam crouch down leaving them standing looking bewildered for a moment before they follow suit.
I guess it takes time to get the civilian parts of the SG teams to accept this sort of signal and react automatically to it.
It would definitely take civilians time to get used to watching for and reacting to such signals.sigpic
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Originally posted by Krisz View PostI guess it takes time to get the civilian parts of the SG teams to accept this sort of signal and react automatically to it.
The military members of the team are there to protect them but we all know they could be captured or injured or anything else and it might fall to the scientists to help them out.sigpic
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Originally posted by Mousie View PostBut it shouldn't though. Perhaps it should be considered a requirement for being allowed offworld! Considering they are going into space and to other planets where literally anything can happen, all scientists who may go on missions should be put through a boot camp - they should be competant with basic weapons and military signals, first aid ect.
The military members of the team are there to protect them but we all know they could be captured or injured or anything else and it might fall to the scientists to help them out.
Remember James Spader's Daniel Jackson in the Movie, going through the standard pack and wondering why half the stuff was in there and just throwing it over his shoulder. The other members of the team in turn couldn't understand what he was doing with throwing away stuff that could end up saving his life. Throwing his books in turn down the sand dune was their way of trying to show him what was important. This was a good example of how it's not that easy to impress valuable survival techniques on civilians, especially ones whose help you need!
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Originally posted by Krisz View PostIt makes sense of course but not every person is suited to the rigours of a boot camp. If you need a specialist for a certain job though, you can guarantee that he/she may not fare very well with physical/military style training but you still need their expertise. Daniel was a case in point, it took him a long time to take on board why all these little things were important despite constant reminders from O'Neill!
Remember James Spader's Daniel Jackson in the Movie, going through the standard pack and wondering why half the stuff was in there and just throwing it over his shoulder. The other members of the team in turn couldn't understand what he was doing with throwing away stuff that could end up saving his life. Throwing his books in turn down the sand dune was their way of trying to show him what was important. This was a good example of how it's not that easy to impress valuable survival techniques on civilians, especially ones whose help you need!sigpic
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