Wraith/Rep Spoilers

[GateMan2000]

I read the Seer's spoiler article. Is there and episode that anyone knows of that leads the Wraith to disable the Replicators? I just found it odd and article pops up saying that Rodney reactivates them after the Wraith disable them.

[marty2006]

Yea man click on the official seer speculation thread your answer will be there

[ussrelativity]

What I'm wondering is how the Wraith were able to do it. Wouldn't they just try to attack them head-on, like with the Lanteans?

[wise one]

What I'm wondering is how the Wraith were able to do it. Wouldn't they just try to attack them head-on, like with the Lanteans?

well, the wraith are fighting wach other and slowly the numbers are going down and instead of being destroyed they would rather deactivate them and have a full supply of zpm,s, ancient class ships with intergalactic hyperdrives and tonnes of advanced technology and all the wraith have to do is deactivate them!!!

would you rather do that then destoying them and losing a fair bit of wraiths and ships

[headfirstforhalos00]

But the Wraith have learned a lot since the Atlantis team started fighting them. Like the fake alliance. Technology-wise, they did have Michael. He was a genius at pretty much anything scientific right? It doesn't seem far fetched that someone else amongst the Wraith could be as smart or smarter than him. Not to mention the telepathic link between them. Hell, it could have been Michael himself.

[Wraith_Boy]

What I'm wondering is how the Wraith were able to do it. Wouldn't they just try to attack them head-on, like with the Lanteans?

The problem for me is that it seems so sudden & quick. As of yet, it doesn't look like the Wraith have ever encountered the Asurans. They slept for all these years because of a lack of food while Asurans flourished. Had they know about them back then, then they would have all went together & started pounding on them got the technology & went to a new feeding ground.

We didn't see or hear anything in S3 about it. So that means that it must be brought up in an early S4 episode as 'The Seer' as it's to be aired something like ep8. Really cannot see how the Wraith could suddenly encounter them then find a way to neutralise them so quickly. That for me makes it a little bit unbelieveable. Maybe if they went to war, the Asurans finally attacked them. Then in 2nd half of S4, Wraith find something that gives them the upper hand, before Asurans counter again.

So am definitely keeping my eyes focused on when we learn that the Wraith finally have enountered the Asurans. Maybe it's in the season premiere. Asurans track Atlantis, while Wraith catch something on sensors & go see what it is. Turns out to be a warships or whatever!

Hope they do it smart & not screw it up. Suddenly we find out in 'The Seer' that Wraith & Asurans have previously met, Wraith have now been able to get the advantage....Will be a huge, huge screw up in my book!

[Buba uognarf]

The problem for me is that it seems so sudden & quick. As of yet, it doesn't look like the Wraith have ever encountered the Asurans. They slept for all these years because of a lack of food while Asurans flourished. Had they know about them back then, then they would have all went together & started pounding on them got the technology & went to a new feeding ground.

We didn't see or hear anything in S3 about it. So that means that it must be brought up in an early S4 episode as 'The Seer' as it's to be aired something like ep8. Really cannot see how the Wraith could suddenly encounter them then find a way to neutralise them so quickly. That for me makes it a little bit unbelieveable. Maybe if they went to war, the Asurans finally attacked them. Then in 2nd half of S4, Wraith find something that gives them the upper hand, before Asurans counter again.

So am definitely keeping my eyes focused on when we learn that the Wraith finally have enountered the Asurans. Maybe it's in the season premiere. Asurans track Atlantis, while Wraith catch something on sensors & go see what it is. Turns out to be a warships or whatever!

Hope they do it smart & not screw it up. Suddenly we find out in 'The Seer' that Wraith & Asurans have previously met, Wraith have now been able to get the advantage....Will be a huge, huge screw up in my book!

obviously it shouldn't be something sudden we should hear early in season 4 about the Wraith and the Asurans to provide background to this episode but we've seen the Wraith have some serious programming abilities i'm not surpirsed they've been able to freeze the Asurans like this.

[fallenexile452]

i really want to know what there asuran plan for the wraith is, hopefully we may begin finding out, after all it's complexity and scope is beyond our understanding so it may take a while for it to be fully realised

[jenks]

The problem for me is that it seems so sudden & quick. As of yet, it doesn't look like the Wraith have ever encountered the Asurans. They slept for all these years because of a lack of food while Asurans flourished. Had they know about them back then, then they would have all went together & started pounding on them got the technology & went to a new feeding ground.

What new feeding ground? They never knew one existed until they came across the Tau'ri, and even then, they didn't know where it was.

[rising-solid]

wow if the Wraith menage to jamme are asgard beaming technologie and deactive the Asurans/PG Replicators i wonder what esle they capable of programing ?

[Wraith_Boy]

What new feeding ground? They never knew one existed until they came across the Tau'ri, and even then, they didn't know where it was.

Where exactly is it stated that they were stupid enough to not know that there were other galaxies in the universe that contained life?

The Wraith Keeper in 'Rising II' said: "It is not among our stars."

Therefore they had to know that there was other stars out there besides their own.

Asurans for all intensive purposes are Lanteans, they have the same tech, knowledge etc. So if Wraith got access to their database, then I'm fairly sure other galaxies would be in there somewhere for them to find. As well as the way to modify their hyperdrives to get there.

[CYBEREAGLE19]

imagine shutting down all the replicators, then we dock atlantis on asuras and bam theres are PG base of operations, build a few langarian point satellites in orbit and just blast away as the wraith come, its wishful thinking

[Prior_of_the_Ori]

I would not be surprised about the Wraith managing to shut down the Asurans. I mean if McKay can alter their base code then the Wraith should have the ability to do more considering they developed a potent AI virus that took control of an Earth ship.

What the real question is whether the Wraith encounter Humans onscreen or offscreen. I mean the Asurans became a lot more active after meeting the Atlantis Expedition so its concievable that the Wraith noticed the Asurans. Especially after the whole Asuras thing that happened at the end of the last season.

Guess we will have to wait and see.

[Wraith_Boy]

I think that's part of the problem with I personally have with it. The main part is that it's far too soon, maybe even they run an arc, the Wraith suddenly find a way to do it. Say 3/4 dedicated episodes to the whole warc arc beginning, that they ran from early S4, then could allow the Wraith to develop it in the 2nd half of the season & shut them down. Maybe even do 1/2 early, then dedicate the mid-season 2 parter to it.

The other part is that they'll just introduce them suddenly, perhaps making references to stuff that happened off-screen & 'The Seer' is the 1st time we hear of anything to do with it. The Asurans - Wraith going at it, is probably the most important part of the show ever. The 2 biggest powers, 1 already decimated the galaxy & wiped out the Lanteans, while the other was to be the saviours, the last big chance the Ancients had of regaining their grip on the galaxy. However it failed, then after 10,000 years they finally get off their asses & decide it's time to act on their original intentions.

The way they disposed of the Lanteans in 'TR I & II' was criminal. Returning real life Ancients going home to Atlantis after 10,000 years. Yet they were not even shown in II at all & we were just told about it. I just hope they handle this one properly. :Fingers Crossed

[wise one]

well in the pegasus project when they detonated the nuke behing the gate, a wraith hive ship detected the blast and came to investigate.....

maybe at some point after first strike some wraith hives or criusers encounted them and something happened and they engaged in battle and then sometime when the seer comes on they will eloborate more on this subject

???? we just have to wait and find out

[GateMan2000]

well in the pegasus project when they detonated the nuke behing the gate, a wraith hive ship detected the blast and came to investigate.....

maybe at some point after first strike some wraith hives or criusers encounted them and something happened and they engaged in battle and then sometime when the seer comes on they will eloborate more on this subject

???? we just have to wait and find out

I was thinking the same thing as you. They may have detected the nukes set off and seen that it was an Atlantian type of society and got hungry. Only to find out that these aren't food. I would imagine that they will have an episode dealing with this. If they don't, I think a lot of people will be very angry they left a major loop whole in the story arc.

[rarocks24]

Right, but Atlantis left that planet? How would they know where to look?

And the Wraith showing up, is that really anything to be worried about? I mean, we do have Merlin's dimensional technology, we can just use that thing to prevent the city from being attacked.

[chaos_master123]

personally from the spoiler, it mentions that the wraith fleet is coming to Atlantis maybe the Atlantis team will make a deal early in the season while they are afloat in space. The Atlantis team could be attacked by the Asurans and the wraith help us against them, some sort of unholy alliance between the wraith and the expedition because they both see the Asurans as the bigger threat. we have had alliances with the wraith before, they always double cross us. maybe that’s how they help us with the power requirements to get to a planet. Then they promise to leave us alone if we help them stop the Asurans but they will come back when they know the Asurans are destroyed

i think McKay will just deactivate them so its some sort of leverage, if you attack us we will turn them back on

it could be a totally wacky plot but "my enemy of my enemy and everything"

What do people think?
Oh, this is my first post sorry if it doesn’t make any sense

[rarocks24]

Actually, the Wraith find a way to disable them and Mckay flips the switch back on so to speak.

Really, I don't know why but I can just picture Sheppard and some random Wraith flipping a light switch on and off for eternity.

[Ouroboros]

This is probably something the Wraith could do all along but only actually put into motion now.

It doesn't make sense that the Wraith and Asurans lived side by side like that for so many centuries without discovering each other. What likely happened is that some sort of deal was reached. The Wraith had no reason to attack the Asurans because they weren't edible, and the Asurans had no reason to attack the Wraith being that they hated their old masters just as much as the Wraith did.

So basically it looks like both sides decided on some sort of "we won't mess with you if you don't mess with us" deal and now eventually someone broke it, there was a conflict of some kind and the Wraith hit the "off" switch on the reps.

This also explains why the reps have been contained to one planet for so long. Like everything else in pegasus they continue to live at the whim of the Wraith. The "plan" to deal with them Oberoth talked about was likely either, completely non existant like Ronon thought, or represented them finally figuring out some way to defend themselves from the Wraith hacking attacks that would stop them cold if they tried anything agressive.

What doesn't make sense is why the Wraith didn't just use the threat of the offswitch to blackmail the Asurans into building them an intergalactic hyperdrive. Maybe that was the point of conflict that caused the Wraith to shut them off, they asked for the drive and the Asurans refused, enraging them?