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    Default Did the Ancients terraform planets?

    Did they even have the technology to do so?

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    Why not, they are Ancients

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    They make universes in bottles, why not terraform a planet?
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    Default Re: Did the Ancients terraform planets?

    The Dakara device would be my best bet on the Ancients terra forming..

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    Default Re: Did the Ancients terraform planets?

    they probably would have been able to, and stuffed it up somehow and refused to fix it knowing the ancients

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    I only ask, because a lot of the planets the Ancients seeded life on had plentiful woodlands and greenery. I know the show production reason for this, but I wonder if the Ancients didn't turn some of these planets from barren rock to the supporters of life we see today.

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    Well... The planets in SGU seems pretty barren too me... No Dakara device = no life in to many places... I mean, the device can destroy everything in a galaxy.. And it can make human life... It should have a terra forming device in it..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasunda View Post
    Well... The planets in SGU seems pretty barren too me... No Dakara device = no life in to many places... I mean, the device can destroy everything in a galaxy.. And it can make human life... It should have a terra forming device in it..
    Well, I would bet that the Ancients intended to build a Dakara-like device to populate/give life to the planets that the gate seeding ships seeded, but they never got around to it, just like how they never got around to occupying Destiny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rickington View Post
    Well, I would bet that the Ancients intended to build a Dakara-like device to populate/give life to the planets that the gate seeding ships seeded, but they never got around to it, just like how they never got around to occupying Destiny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rickington View Post
    Well, I would bet that the Ancients intended to build a Dakara-like device to populate/give life to the planets that the gate seeding ships seeded, but they never got around to it, just like how they never got around to occupying Destiny.
    The problem with this idea is that the Stargates seeded for the Destiny Mission have a very limited range - only a handful of Stargates are within range of one another. Therefore, the Ancients would have had to have put a Dakara device on just about every planet.

    Indeed, it is possible that the Destiny Mission predates the technology used for the Dakara device. After all, the first confirmed use of the device at Dakara was to re-seed the galaxy with life after the plague, and it is quite likely that the Destiny predates said plague by several million years.
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    Default Re: Did the Ancients terraform planets?

    So, there is no definitive proof that they did?

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    Well terraforming is not a very difficult process, even in real life we could possible do things to make a planet more habitable.. e.g. free up water at the poles which may be frozen, introduce bacteria that could possible produce C02 etc so the ancients with their infinite technology could without a doubt.

    They probably have some technology similar to the touchstone from early SG1...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragitsu View Post
    So, there is no definitive proof that they did?
    It is known that the Dakara device was used to recreate life in the Milky Way Galaxy after the Plague. Additionally, there was the line in "Rising," "...in the hope of spreading new life in a galaxy where there appeared to be none. Soon the new life grew, prospered" (here). It is up to you to decide whether this counts as terraforming.

    As for changing atmospheric composition and other such "large scale" projects, I will point out that most planets in the Milky Way and Pegasus look like Canadian forests, which Universe shows to be the exception outside of Ancient-controlled space, rather than the rule.
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    I believe the Ancients must have been capable of terraforming worlds, for the same reasons as Puddle-Jumper states in his post above.

    Where was it stated that Dakara could seed a galaxy with life, by which I mean start from scratch, with no Human biological material present to start with on any world where Human life evolves?

    As far as I'm aware all Dakara could do was break down the bonds between cells, atoms, etc.
    I always thought that the Ancients either created less evolved Alterans in labs and then placed them on various worlds or they left the necessary DNA material and a catalyst of some kind to allow for evolution of biological material until it formed into Humans.
    Maybe giving the process a little nudge in the right direction if things went in an unexpected direction.
    I guess they could have even manipulated the biology of alien worlds to form Human life where they chose to (provided those worlds were too inhospitable ).
    I don't see how Dakara could be used to start life on a world, not without DNA that resembles what's inside us all as a base point to start from.
    A dead world with nothing living on it would just have nothing to work with.

    Could some kind of Matter Conversion process be used as a part of the process?
    I guess I could kinda believe Dakara could maybe do the whole thing if it's capable of changing atomic structures besides the basic breaking apart of atoms that are joined together.

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    Although I would side on the concencous that the Ancients did or can terraform planets we have not seen any mention of this in SG-1. However its down to iterpretation, the Dakara weapon could be discribed as a terraformation tool as such.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rise Of The Phoenix View Post
    I believe the Ancients must have been capable of terraforming worlds, for the same reasons as Puddle-Jumper states in his post above.

    Where was it stated that Dakara could seed a galaxy with life, by which I mean start from scratch, with no Human biological material present to start with on any world where Human life evolves?

    As far as I'm aware all Dakara could do was break down the bonds between cells, atoms, etc.
    I always thought that the Ancients either created less evolved Alterans in labs and then placed them on various worlds or they left the necessary DNA material and a catalyst of some kind to allow for evolution of biological material until it formed into Humans.
    Maybe giving the process a little nudge in the right direction if things went in an unexpected direction.
    I guess they could have even manipulated the biology of alien worlds to form Human life where they chose to (provided those worlds were too inhospitable ).
    I don't see how Dakara could be used to start life on a world, not without DNA that resembles what's inside us all as a base point to start from.
    A dead world with nothing living on it would just have nothing to work with.

    Could some kind of Matter Conversion process be used as a part of the process?
    I guess I could kinda believe Dakara could maybe do the whole thing if it's capable of changing atomic structures besides the basic breaking apart of atoms that are joined together.
    Well, in the episode where they used the Dakara Device against the replicators, didn't Daniel mention some thing of seeding life, as well as destroying it...? Could be me, don't really remember. *Runs away to watch the episode again*

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    In the pilot episode of Atlantis, the Ancient hologram said
    ...in the hope of spreading new life in a galaxy where their appeared to be none.
    To me, this sounds like they came and began terraforming planets.

    In time, a thousand worlds bore the fruit of life in this form.
    Terraforming is generally portrayed as a long, gradual process, and this statement makes it sound like whatever they were doing took a long time.

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    I was always under the impression. That the Ancients proved evolution was real in the show. Given that "We are the second evolution of this kind" So when they said seeded life, I thought that they were saying that made planets that could evolve life, eventually that's why to quote another reference "In time, a thousand worlds bore the fruit of life in this form." that was when human beings evolved.

    Any device that can create this could surely remove aspects of it. Such as atoms behaving in a certain way. We at our current level of technology can create a bomb that will only destroy the living organic elements.

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    I think that something like the genesis device . Really the ancients had WH-drive and they found the prof that god exists so there is no reason in the universe to think that they can't do it .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragitsu View Post
    I only ask, because a lot of the planets the Ancients seeded life on had plentiful woodlands and greenery. I know the show production reason for this, but I wonder if the Ancients didn't turn some of these planets from barren rock to the supporters of life we see today.
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    Well... The planets in SGU seems pretty barren too me... No Dakara device = no life in to many places... I mean, the device can destroy everything in a galaxy.. And it can make human life... It should have a terra forming device in it..
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