Earth is the Original Planet of the Ancients... Or is it?

[TheAncientOne]

I just realized that I've assumed that Earth was the planet of the Ancients since at least the beginning of season eight and maybe as far back as the episode Frozen in season seven without any significant evidence to support this. When I thought about it the only evidence that suggests Earth was the Ancients planet of origin is the comments made by Daniel and Dr. Beckett during Lost City, which if my memory serves me were something along the lines of "as near as we can tell we are the second evolution of this form on Earth, the Ancients were the first." I'm going completely from memory since I don't have the episode anymore and I think I might be imaging the specification of it being on Earth. Even if I am remembering correctly, the quote is less than positive proof that Earth was the palnet of origin for the Ancients.

Of course once I realized that there wasn't absolute proof that Earth si the Ancients homeworld I started thinking about the case that could be made for it not being their homeworld. The strongest evidence for it not being their homeworld is that the outpost found in Antartica is no different than at least one other one (and probably more) that was used as a landing point for Atlantis. Having multiple landing platforms on different worlds suggests that the Ancients travelled, with their city, from planet to planet. The fact that they left stargates behind on everyworld they visited with their city and all the worlds nearby seems to imply that they only visited a region of space once with their city. based on this logic, if the Ancients left for Pegasus from Earth, then it is not their homeworld.

Feel free to critique this theory but please express your point of view as to where the Ancients originated.

P.S.: If Earth isn't the home of the Ancients they may have seeded human life in many galaxies and be far older and more prolific.

[aAnubiSs]

We don't really know if Earth was their first planet. Their homeworld might have been destroyed and they started to call Earth home. Or their planet's resources were depleted... there are many possibilities.

[Col.Mike]

Could the Ancients original planet be Mars?? They have found evidence of live being on mars at one point in time, if I remembered correctly that is

[donnie_darko]

I find that Earth may not be the original planet of the Ancients but was recreated in order to seed the galaxy with humans. They also recreated other planets for other purposes. In order to recreate a world or do something at a very large scale they needed their city ship to fly and land there so an outpost is built.

[Ancient 1]

It would be easy to assume that earth is their original home planet, but there is no hard evidence to prove that it is or that it's not; at least not yet.

[AtlantisRising]

Im still going to believe that it was thier original homeworld.
But the only thing i dont understand from all that is this; if it isnt their original homeworld, why would they have cared which stargates could access earth? As far as we know, only the Atlantis gate can actually gate back to earth. do you see what i mean, or is my rambling confusing everyone?

[Wyrminarrd]

I´m against earth being their homeworld. You´d think that as they became more advanced technologically they would have had to mine earths resources heavily and that this mining would leave deep scars that where clearly artificial.

No, Earth is just a place where the ancients liked to holiday at.

[Lugal]

I´m against earth being their homeworld. You´d think that as they became more advanced technologically they would have had to mine earths resources heavily and that this mining would leave deep scars that where clearly artificial.

Not necessarily. Earth's weather erases pretty much anything. Meteorite craters millions of years old are long gone now. Mining scars, being much smaller would disappear much quicker. It's also likely the Ancients were mining millions of years ago. Their technology probably progressed to the point where they would not have to mine anymore.

[Wyrminarrd]

Not necessarily. Earth's weather erases pretty much anything. Meteorite craters millions of years old are long gone now. Mining scars, being much smaller would disappear much quicker. It's also likely the Ancients were mining millions of years ago. Their technology probably progressed to the point where they would not have to mine anymore.

And they then put all the minerals and oil back? Any civilization need´s resources, you think they built atlantis from nothing? Plus there would be skeletons somewhere that would have been found.

[Larry The Chevron Guy]

If it wasn't Earth, I believe it was still in our solar system. Mars is a good theory.

The reasoning behind this is simple. GATE GLYPHS!

They're based on constellations seen from our planet's point of view. The stellar point of view from any other solar stystem would change the gate glyphs.

[Mio]

Im still going to believe that it was thier original homeworld.
But the only thing i dont understand from all that is this; if it isnt their original homeworld, why would they have cared which stargates could access earth? As far as we know, only the Atlantis gate can actually gate back to earth. do you see what i mean, or is my rambling confusing everyone?

Not so much Earth, as any other planet in the Milky way

They probably just used Antarctica as the capital of their empire until Atlantis flew off.

[Wyrminarrd]

Now that´s a good point but you have to remember that the glyphs were created in the movie and in that the gates where almost certainly built by the goa´uld. The series has a different take on the matter and thus we have to ignore that plothole.

[Larry The Chevron Guy]

There's nothing in the movie that states that the gates were built by the Goa'uld. The movie may have some parts that don't match up, but for the most part, there was a lot left to the imagination as to where things originated, giving the writers of SG-1 plenty of room to write in explanations to things.

[Wyrminarrd]

I know that in the movie there is nothing that expressly say´s that that the gate were built by the goa´uld but it is implied. Now the series as in the past ignored much of the basic facts from the movie in order to make their own things work out. All I´m saying here is that this might very well be another instance where they will have to look the other way.

[cobraR478]

Now that´s a good point but you have to remember that the glyphs were created in the movie and in that the gates where almost certainly built by the goa´uld. The series has a different take on the matter and thus we have to ignore that plothole.

We also have to wonder why O'neill and Daniel look different. Plastic surgery? I think not. CONSPIRACY.

[LordAnubis]

If it wasn't Earth, I believe it was still in our solar system. Mars is a good theory.

The reasoning behind this is simple. GATE GLYPHS!

They're based on constellations seen from our planet's point of view. The stellar point of view from any other solar stystem would change the gate glyphs.

Maybe their original planet was between Mars and Jupiter and was destroyed and today is the asteroid belt and the core of the planet is now Pluto. Just a theory

[Positively Kanyon]

If it wasn't Earth, I believe it was still in our solar system. Mars is a good theory.

The reasoning behind this is simple. GATE GLYPHS!

They're based on constellations seen from our planet's point of view. The stellar point of view from any other solar stystem would change the gate glyphs.

This is actually the strongest evidence to support the theory that Earth is the original homeworld of the Ancients. My theory goes along the guidelines of that the glyphs not only represent syllables in the Ancient alphabet, but numbers. I see the Stargate as a sort-of combination lock, where the symbol for Earth represents "1" and clockwise all the way to 39. 6 numbers representing the points in space like co-ordinates, not constellations and locking on with the 7th as the key (the point of origin.)

I hope that's clear, it's a bit hard to explain it in text, but I'll draw up a diagram when I'm not at work!

Any thoughts?

[Drewbert]

And they then put all the minerals and oil back? Any civilization need´s resources, you think they built atlantis from nothing? Plus there would be skeletons somewhere that would have been found.

3 million years is enough time for scars to be erased and more oil made from dead animals.

[LordAnubis]

This is actually the strongest evidence to support the theory that Earth is the original homeworld of the Ancients. My theory goes along the guidelines of that the glyphs not only represent syllables in the Ancient alphabet, but numbers. I see the Stargate as a sort-of combination lock, where the symbol for Earth represents "1" and clockwise all the way to 39. 6 numbers representing the points in space like co-ordinates, not constellations and locking on with the 7th as the key (the point of origin.)

I hope that's clear, it's a bit hard to explain it in text, but I'll draw up a diagram when I'm not at work!

Any thoughts?

I like that theory and I also believe that Earth is the original homeworld of the Ancients.

[Wyrminarrd]

3 million years is enough time for scars to be erased and more oil made from dead animals.

That still doesn´t explain the lack of skeletons and any and all artifacts on earth,the ancients knew how to build stuff so it´s not hard to believe that more then just the stargate would survive to the present era.

The show runners may make earth the home planet of the ancients but that won´t change the fact that it makes no sense in the real world (not that sci-fi ever does )