Gateworld Virtual Fleet 2.0

[knowles2]

The background suggest its from star trek voyager I just do not recognize the species. I guest it over to good old Google.

[Buba uognarf]

the race is actually called the Swarm lol

[Davidtourniquet]

Ok decided to enter a fighter.

Spoiler:

http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=c23f778a5d756f6121d8bbc7146aaae6

the specs

Spoiler:

Specs
Length: 8m
Wingspan: 10m
Height: 2m
Volume: 160 cubic metres

Crew: 2

Material: Reinforced Aluminium-Trinium-Titanium

Power: Mark I Naquadah Mini-Generator

Engines:
1x Tau’ri Fighter Sublight Engine (capable of speeds up to 5% LS)
2x Booster Engines (for manoeuvrability and adding a further 3% to the top speed)
2x SCRAMjet engines for atmospheric manoeuvres (Top speed: Mach 50)

Shields:
None

Stealth:
Stealth Material

Armour:
1m Ionised Reinforced Aluminium

Weapons:
10x Naquadah Enhanced Cruise Missiles

Other:
Inertial Dampeners
Ejector system
Life Support for up to 24 hours

History of the X452

Design is based on the B-52 stealth bomber of the late 1990s and early 21st century (hence the 52 in the name)
Discussion about this model came up when debating what to replace the aging F-302 fleet with.
Uses sublight engines in space, and SCRAMjet engines in a planetary atmosphere.
Far more manoeuvrable then the F-302.
Designed by the British and American designers.
Uses naquadah enhanced versions of the old cruise missiles.
This a completely Tau’ri designed and built ship, no materials came from other sources.

[immhotep]

I like thier look, they are kind like one of the concpet images Genesis did for the furlings...seriously.
I think these are a really cool enemy and i like the idea of a Wandering wolf miniseries. Man i love these thread, some of the ideas are really great, if only we got them on screen!
Anyways looking forward to more. also F_A about the Sig. i would like something thats says everything about what were about. The future of the tauri, our rise to power. So something with us at the begining and and us now, the asgard..i dunno jsut something that says that were in the future kinda thing...vague i know

[Buba uognarf]

I like thier look, they are kind like one of the concpet images Genesis did for the furlings...seriously.
I think these are a really cool enemy and i like the idea of a Wandering wolf miniseries. Man i love these thread, some of the ideas are really great, if only we got them on screen!
Anyways looking forward to more. also F_A about the Sig. i would like something thats says everything about what were about. The future of the tauri, our rise to power. So something with us at the begining and and us now, the asgard..i dunno jsut something that says that were in the future kinda thing...vague i know

yeah the Wandering wolf miniseries is going to really delve into the Swarms routes as a prelude to war i've got sooo many ideas so it should be cool...

and F_A my idea for a sig would be 2 pictures one of a Tau'ri ship getting hammered maybe a pic from the lost city with the Prometheus getting hammered by Anubis's ubertak and another picture maybe the start of the camelot battle with all the allied ships firing together or Tau'ri ships generally kicking butt...with a caption...

if you get what i mean

[Andrew Joshua Talon]

Er, question. Does the Earth really have to be under a World Government at this point? And must the Tau'ri become an empire? Empires may be great, but they have a bad habit of falling...

[Davidtourniquet]

Earth is not a one world government and I dont think you can class it as an empire either.

[boberth2o]

Ok I was over on the Original Starship Design Thread and I saw Immhotep post about entries for ships andi made a fighter here is the link to the sketchup model --->Click Me!

Here are the specs:
Make-Up:
Its a one person fighter made of a lower grade alloy of Trinium. packed full of the latest tracking and sensor technology.
Weapons:
There are two wing-mounted energy turrents, much like that staff-cannons that are mounted to the death gliders, except the are not fixed they can rotate to any direction underneath, in front of, to the side, and so on.
and second it has two bays on each wing that can hold eight missles each (due to the need for no liquid fuel) 16 total.
Defenses:
It has a low grade shield like the one the retro-fitted on the puddle jumper but not as powerful, and trinium hull
Power:
It is powered by a naquadah reactor ,small but powerful.
Pulpulsion:
It has one sublight engine, no rockets or jets


Edit: I figured a way to Make it a 2D picture and here it is:





Edit: Umm... here is another model of mine called the HSC-308 which is a heavy space carrier that is cappible of holding about 200 fighters. If you must say why, thats because every time earth ships come into a battle and launch fighters we only have like 8 or 16. I thought we need a heavy carrier that could handle a sizible squadron of fighters. To get the sketchup model ---> Click Me! And here are some pictures:

[Andrew Joshua Talon]

Earth is not a one world government and I dont think you can class it as an empire either.

"I think Terran Space corps should be the miltary branch of the Terran federation, which is made up of hundred of human populated worlds, either owned by or under the vasselship of Earth."

Terran Federation implies a one-world government of some sort, while human-populated worlds owned or under the vassalship of Earth translates to "Empire". And what is this I hear about solar flare guns and zero-point energy cannons? Along with the fact that we sent our most advanced ships to Pegasus AFTER we'd defeated the Wraith,and it's not exactly an insurmountable distance. We could keep our ships cycling in and out of Pegasus and the Milky Way without too much trouble. To top it all off, the premise that we would start building all these brand spanking new ships after five years, without refitting or upgrading our current fleet? What kind of sense does that make?

I think the story needs some help, guys.

[fallen_arbiter]

Imm and co, no probs with the banner/sig, will have it done by thursday as i have oter stuff too. I kinda get what you people want, will post drafts to see what you lots think.

[immhotep]

The idea is the our fleet was decimated in the final battle for earth and the war with the wraith is over. So we are safe, for now, and the earth population expands, and it becomes an empire, but not an empire like the goauld's we are still opperating as factions or nations etc. Each country has access to different ships and resource just like on earth but the official earth ships that are produced as standard, under the Terran space corp ( a kind off shoot to the 2040 UN/Homeowlrd security) which is the main bulk of our new fleet is what we are voting for.
Essentially this fleet is our race's expansion in to the power vacuum left by the Ori, the fleet is about our expansion in to a new space faring race. The gate has been public for a while but we havent left earth because of the Ori threat.
Also the ZPM weapons and solar guns are not our weapons, they are the weapons of our future enemy.

[knowles2]

I thought we decided against them in the end anyway.



Looked like we getting quite few designs and modals in for the fighter class.

If e get enough may be ought to split the class up into to a gate fighter, and a long range fighter and short to medium range righter. this could happen if we get enough designs in.

Terran Federation implies a one-world government of some sort, while human-populated worlds owned or under the vassalship of Earth translates to "Empire". And what is this I hear about solar flare guns and zero-point energy cannons? Along with the fact that we sent our most advanced ships to Pegasus AFTER we'd defeated the Wraith,and it's not exactly an insurmountable distance. We could keep our ships cycling in and out of Pegasus and the Milky Way without too much trouble. To top it all off, the premise that we would start building all these brand spanking new ships after five years, without refitting or upgrading our current fleet? What kind of sense does that make?

I think the story needs some help, guys.

I think the story fine.

It still I believe anyway it a eighteen days journey time to the Pegasus galaxy. So I believe they probably have two separate fleets. With ships only returning to The Milkyway once their posting ended in Pegasus is probably about every three to six months. Probably longer in a war situation.

Also their might well be room to bring in ships from the Pegasus galaxy, for cameos, and to be their for the stories. But the bulk of the fleet will be new designs for vessels, because hey it more fun to design brand spanking new vessels than to recycle old one. And also it allow new people to submit new designs to the fleet. Unlike the the first one where everything have been decided.

Also by creating a new fleet the first virtual fleet can continue with out any interference.

Also with starting of new we can try and correct some mistakes made in the first one.

[immhotep]

Ive been thinkging about this for my bus ride home and i would like to clear some things up in regards to the things that AJT has brought up.

Earth as it stands today is quite different from the Earth of say "2010" or how it is today. Twelve years ago the public revelation was brought about by a the simple fact that we couldnt cover it up, the Ori were about to launch a major attack on earth, and so we didnt try to hide this one, it was time; we embraced the fact that this was happening and unvieled all.
The world drew a gasp at the secrecy, politcal rallys and outrage were directed at the US. They made a massive speach about why they had to keep it a secret so long; and the Ori, with great timing attacked a few days after the revelation.

A massive battle errupted above Earth, every ally we had, the Asgard, the Jaffa, and a sizeable chunk of the Pegasus fleet (including 2 ancient warships, and a ZPM) defended earth, in a typical SG finally a massive launch of Antartic drones destroyed the Ori fleet of 7 Motherships.
This attack was one of the defining moment in the War with the Ori, in fact this show of power was what changed the Ancients mind, which after several more years of fighting defeated the Ori in this galaxy by interfering, this gave the Asgard the time needed to create thier own Merlin's weapon, which was activated and blocked all ascended beings from interfering anywhere. It was the ancients idea, after interfering they told the Asgard to do this, blocking anything like them or the Ori from every affecting the lower planes agian. Essentially they gave us a weapon that gave us the power to stop them interfering, rather than letting them or the Ori choose to interfere.

After the battle at Earth our forces were weakened and the Asgard and interfering ancients acted on thier own, because Earth had withdrawn from the War because of internal politics; they did not withdraw from the War with the Wraith because the Pegasus galaxy and its wars and fleets were deemed out of the juristiction of Earth, because Pegasus's wars were lead and thier fleets opperated by Asgard and Human goverments from Pegasus rather than Earth itself.

On Earth the political structure of the Stargate program was completely overhauled. The Stargate and its technologies were opened and implemented by any goverment with the resources, Naquadah reactors powered our cities, beaming techology that was modiefied in to a peditol which beamed you to any location on the planet. Basicly every technology that could be implemented for large scale use on our planet was implemented. In a short space of time earth became a technological wonder, and our people benefitted. The Stargate itself was a major feature, it was moved to a neutral location and manned and owned by a new body of the UN, which made the Gate a piece of public propperty, which any nation could use.

Each nation on Earth set up its own mines, colonies, outposts, offworld research centre...those who could afford it. (mainly the G8 and members of the UN)
After 10 years many nations had different opperations offworld. It was at this time when the wraith attacked and decimated our fleet. Up until this point we had all relied upon the standard ships from Pegasus space docks, however few races actually built ship of a large scale, in fact the US britain and Russia were the only ones who had military fleets of any worth, some had fighters and cruisers and gunships but Only those three nations had the resources to implement a ship building program.
All the ships produced from Earth are by law required to defend earth or allies if possible, and So when the wraith attacked we lost almost every ship we had. All the ships answer to homeworld security, our space fleet after PR, we put on hold because many nations were dealing with other things, only the stable nations could do it. On top of goverments other factors like pressure groups and religion were trying to stop the construction of fleets on a large scale. Most relgious groups and other organisations also owned off world propperty, that were not allied to any particular nation.

So it 2036, the wraith have attacked and trashed nearly every city and everyship we have. But our offworld mines and resources have become developed enough to support us during this time of crisis, and rebuilding our planet has begun, people are moving from Earth to other planets to set up a new home for themselves; you have to understand that the wraith really trashed Earth, if you were developing nation then you would be better off rebuilding everything that repairing whats left. People moved from Earth through the Stargate, to new worlds and new planets. Everyone was quite peacefull about it, Our people incorporated themselves in to existing peoples (either native or from earth), or they moved in ships if they could to pegasus where metropolises were developing fast.

In 2040 the Earth population had dropped from 9billion at the time the wraith attacked, to just 5 Billion. Meaning massive stretchs of land could be expanded in to, used for other purposes. Earth had lost much of its population, but in return gained so much land, particurly in africa where 65% of the population had emigrated offworld in the 20 years of gate travel. This land could be converted in to massive ship building facilities. Earth which had meant to become a utopia, had been trashed and coverted, in some parts to a massive ship building factory. Building Earth a new fleet, to be used to protect every Earthling on every planet they occupied. The Terran Space Corps was Born, a single military force, born from a unified treaty of all the military powers on Earth, especially those who were experienced with space warship. Its mandate and funding came from every nation, every offworld faction of Earth, Naquadah and trinium shipments from every planet we mined was taxed to build the fleet, which woudl protect the grownign expansion of the Peoples of Earth.

This is how our fleet was born, the Terran Space Corps is for the Protection of the Peoples of Earth throughout the MW galaxy and beyond. The military force of Earth has been concentrated in to one single military force, opperation under one banner for one Cause. Econimcially every planet and every nation is autonamous with regards to whatever activilite it wishes to do. But the TSC's is above them all, it is manned and funded by Every nation on Earth or Beyond for the single purpose of defending everyone, without predudice. Military actions are decided by a supreme council of Generals and allied advisors for the benefit of all. Every planet has some kind of defensive force, usually in the form of a defence satalite or network.

when it comes to defence or war the TSC is where the butt stops. No Nation can enter in to war without the TSC because the TSC is thecollective force of the entire human population of Earth. Our planets are all defended by one United force. The Peoples of Earth, as well as Allies are identified by a totem at the gate with a ^ cheveron. If you are under protection of Earth, even if your are not from earth then you still have to pay some sort of contribution to the Upkeep of the fleet. These "contributions" are usually taken from trade incomes of planet, which is almost always done through our trade stations.

So that how i see thing in terms of politics, our nations as they stand are still present, throughout the galaxy. Our fleet represents them all, they all fund and man the TSC which is what our fleet is made for. The nations are civilian and can and do opperate trade fleets of smaller fleets but the main fleet of our race, is made up of the TSC. THe TSC is not large at the moment, its very early in its development but in time we should have all the resources needed to build the greatest fleet the MW has ever seen, made ironically possible by the land the wraith cleared when they attacked, which forced our people off of our homeworld and head out in to the galaxy.

Any gd?

[knowles2]

Well immotep, nice story. Some spelling mistakes, but hey I cannot really comment on spelling, specially when I looked at my own.

I think the figure of 9 billion is a bit unrealistic, may 7 or eight billion. two billion was kill in the wraith attack, so that bought it down to five, and I think you should then have about five billion and with a other billion left for of world colony, in the biggest emigration in history of the galaxy.

I also think we should make earth still as utopia, which is being rebuilt, slowly but surly.

Also a other thing I think we need something like the protected planet treaty, in which we protect younger humand society from outside interference or exploitation. And they do not have to constitute any thing for this protection. It something earth offer all young societies. They can choose to be protected and receive new technologies or they can be choose to be left alone, on interference from us, to developed on their own.


But overall I think that what we needed a nice back story explaining the current state of affairs. It will give us something to focus around.

[Buba uognarf]

well done Immhotep very good , you deserve green but i still need to spread it ...it all looks good...

and Knowles i don't mind the death figure being 4 billion so immhotep can leave it, i would have liked more people to die in the battle anywya more fitting for the end of the Wraith...

[immhotep]

Knowles i was kinda geussing at the population figures but i think the current estimates is 12billion by 2050, so even with the wraith attack 9billion is al ow figure. 5 Billion is a good number.
Also the Utopia is being rebuilt, but slowly, in fact i was going to have a storyline about it, Earth got totally trashed, like independance day trashed..So we have to rebuild, even with advanced beam based construction tech helping us out its still a heck of a Job. Plus we want it to be the best planet in the Galaxy, it is the Capitol after all. Basicly the GWF2.0 is about the rebirth of our race, in to whatever we make it in too.
Young human races are taken under our wing sure, but we cant do everything, we need resources especially now, so yeah we will protect and help them if we can but our own race and our homeworld just got trashed by a 40 year long war and the largest wraith fleet ever to attack the MW. I think for the time being we have to rebuild our own power base before we can help others start one. We are more likely to use native populations in our endevours rather then getting them to a advanced point on thier own.

[knowles2]

Okay that fine.

I will be looking forward to the stories about the utopia.

when are we going to star voting on the fighters.

[immhotep]

If you go through the pages and write out what we have then we can do it now or 2moro, im busy 2day and 2moro im going to see new found glory !! so yeah im busy

[Buba uognarf]

just thought i'd mention i've been working on the Nemisis a Tau'ri flagship and the Wandering Wolf may be posted tonight if i have time...

once again good job immhotep on the history...i think we should wait atleast a day till voting though, seeing as we said wednesday or thursday people who want to enter may not be ready

[Davidtourniquet]

I like it Immhotep, although I think it's a bit too rosy for my liking. Maybe with the pirates it could be former terrorists on Earth have stayed hidden and built up a space corporation (the mining, tourist trade etc), from this they have acquired weapons etc on the black market (including from Lucian Alliance/Gaould sources). Hence how the pirate fleet is formed, using black market tech and modified cargo/transport ships.