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    Earth Symbol Is Atlantis Really Worth It?????

    I was thinking this cos so far earth has spent countless millions funding the expedition, countless people have died, they awoke the wraith and now the asurans and what profit have they made???? A handfull of puddle-jumpers and a city they can't run due to the enormous power requirments


    Why keep going??

    The SGC had to keep going cos the goauld were right there on the doorstep but they can just close the door on the wraith.......why bother????
    I dunno what to put in here now..

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    There are two main reasons that immediately popped into my mind..

    1. Never stop exploring.. Who knows? The Ancients might have the key to all diseases in their database somewhere for all we know. The scientific gain this expedition can (and will) bring to the human race is astronomical.

    2. Now that they have awoken the Wraith, they bear a certain responsibility to protect the people of the Pegasus Galaxy especially because they are by far the most advanced race and the only ones that stand a remote chance against the Wraith and the Asurans.
    You don't just run away from responsibilities...

    I'm sure I can give you more reasons once I've thought about it..
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    Default Re: Is Atlantis Really Worth It?????

    The Wraith are also trying to reach Earth, and given the circumstances, it might not take long before they actually make it here.

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    Cos its a beast. If they can get it to fly they can solve all the PG problems, all milky way problems and probably a lot of the Asgard's as well. If they can get the ZPMs that is...
    When all technology has failed and all hope is lost, we will realize we had the ultimate advantage all along...
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    Just on the second point the ancients did a fine job of not just running from responsibility but literally fleeing from it! If we are meant to be the second evolution of them then surely there's nothing wrong with starting the running early lol.

    But the wealth of knowledge atlantis may potentially have is invaluable!
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    Simple! We messed things up in the Pegasus Galaxy. The Wraith are fully awake because of us, and now know of Earth, and will do anything to reach it. We must now fight to clean up the mess we have made.

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    [QUOTE=the fifth man;5950202]Simple! We messed things up in the Pegasus Galaxy. The Wraith are fully awake because of us, and now know of Earth, and will do anything to reach it. We must now fight to clean up the mess we have made.[/QUOT
    Why? We make messes all the time and we don't always "clean up" after ourselves......just leave Atlantis, and make sure it's blown before we go.

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    or just destroy the control crystal in the DHD then there can't dial earth.

    or just take the gate with us
    Last edited by Pharaoh Atem; October 29th, 2006 at 12:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capt.Mal Reynolds View Post

    or just destroy the control crystal in the DHD then there can't dial earth.

    or just take the gate with us
    Good point.
    Last edited by Skydiver; October 29th, 2006 at 01:19 PM.

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    They're after the Hyperdrive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capt.Mal Reynolds View Post

    or just destroy the control crystal in the DHD then there can't dial earth.

    or just take the gate with us
    I dont think the gate room colours would go with a PG gate.
    Last edited by Skydiver; October 29th, 2006 at 01:20 PM.
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    Spoiler:
    MBA (my chemistry teacher): What is Avagadros constant?
    Me: 6 and a bit times 10 to the 23.
    MBA: Yea, you know that "bit" is two billion trillion?
    Me: Im barnsley and hung over, a bit will do
    AND
    MBA: What do we do to the number of moles to get the number of atoms?
    Me: Times it by that really big number!
    MBA: Yes, that really big number, what is it?
    Me: How should i know?
    MBA: Its on the board
    Me: Then whats the point in asking???

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    Default Re: Is Atlantis Really Worth It?????

    doesn't have to just store it at area 51 and study it.

    it might be more advanced then the milky gates might learn some secrets

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lida View Post
    Why? We make messes all the time and we don't always "clean up" after ourselves......just leave Atlantis, and make sure it's blown before we go.
    We can just have Rodney blow up the whole Pegasus Galaxy. then all our problems are history
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    Quote Originally Posted by caty View Post
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    2. Now that they have awoken the Wraith, they bear a certain responsibility to protect the people of the Pegasus Galaxy especially because they are by far the most advanced race and the only ones that stand a remote chance against the Wraith and the Asurans.
    You don't just run away from responsibilities...

    I'm sure I can give you more reasons once I've thought about it..
    Guess you missed 'Condemned'

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    I think the point being made is that while yes, now we have no choice but to keep fighting to keep earth safe, was it worth it in the first place? Very little useable tech has been discovered compared to the number of dangers we have been exposed to.

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    Actually, Atlantis is worth every penny. The amount of data stored in Atlantis' computers is astronomical. It's not just medical research, weapons or hyper drive technologies. There are also things like:

    material technology - think about what an effect it would have if a new material lighter than plastic but stronger than titanium could be found. Or glass stronger than steel. You could benefit so much just from advanced materials.

    things like the personnal shield - you can have every cop or soldier have one, and think how many lives it would save.

    ZPM technology - imagine having a room the size of a average gas station able to power a city like Los Angeles. No more rolling blackouts in LA, pollution from power plants; it could even be adapted for cars. Imagine going 2 million miles on a tank of gas.

    Stasis technology - someone is very sick and there is no cure. You stick them in stasis, and when you find a cure you can revive them and heal them.

    That's just a SMALL example of what Atlantis could do for us. To abandon it or destroy it would be like burning every book on earth. The potential benefits outweight the potential risks in this case. If Ancient technology is still more advanced than Asgard tech after 10,000 years, then it's worth hanging on to.
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    couldn't all the data from Atlantis just be tranferred to computers and taken back home? Then blow up Atlantis and job done, no need to be in pegasus, with Atlantis detroyed and the earth ships all back in the milkyway there's no way the wraith can find and reach earth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jenks View Post
    Guess you missed 'Condemned'
    Oh come on.You've got to be kidding me! Just because the Olesians think that they are as advanced as the Atlantians doesn't mean that they are!

    Do you really believe that? Then maybe you have missed 'Condemned'!
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    Quote Originally Posted by caty View Post
    Oh come on.You've got to be kidding me! Just because the Olesians think that they are as advanced as the Atlantians doesn't mean that they are!

    Do you really believe that? Then maybe you have missed 'Condemned'!
    I think he meant more advanced than the tauri and in which case yes they were by far.

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    The fact is that they can't just blow it and leave.

    As was said at the end of Atlantis S1 they can't blow it in to small enough pieces. Dr Z. said though that the Wraith would be able to backwards engineer it and reach Earth anyway!!!
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