Rather than have a couple of threads veer off into a heated discussion on whether or not Owen raped the couple in the pilot ep and if it was funny or if he'd done it before, I figured I'd start a separate thread for it.
So... Owen sprayed himself with some kind of alien drug/pheremone for the express purpose of attracting a woman who had no interest in him. She immediately became interested and wanted to take Owen back to her place to have sex with him.
Unfortunately (depending on which school of thought you ascribe to) they were interrupted outside the pub by the woman's boyfriend. An argument ensued and chances were looking good that Owen would get the crap beaten out of him, so he used the spray again and became irresistible to the boyfriend as well. The argument then turned to which of them (woman or boyfriend) would get to shag him first.
Now, as I remember it the scene ended in a tug-of-war which left it ambiguous as to whether he had sex with both of them or if he used the confusion to escape. Some say he went through with it, others say he ran off. Personally I think he went through with it as it seems to be in character for him (although admittedly it's hard to know what's in character in a pilot ep).
I also got the impression that this wasn't the first time he'd used the spray, but I could easily be wrong about that and again, the ep didn't make it clear.
Personally? I find the character repugnant. While I can understand how- on the surface- the whole scenario might seem funny and I even managed to grin initially at what he was doing, that quickly changed when I realized he was going to go through with it. The only thing that stopped him- or may have stopped him- was the intervention of the boyfriend.
Now... if you go with what some are saying and believe that Owen ran away at earliest opportunity that doesn't change the fact that he intended to have sex with a woman who had, until the use of the drug, refused his attentions. I equate what Owen did with slipping someone a roofie and proceeding to rape her. The fact that she would have been a willing participant is invalid because of the drug involved and that, in my opinion, isn't funny at all.
Am I taking it too seriously? Maybe, maybe not. I certainly don't think so, especially since I know women who've been raped. I have no real issue with people who didn't read deeper into the scenario and who found it to be amusing, but I'd appreciate it if those who DID like the scene wouldn't imply that there was something wrong with me for disliking it or that I'm the one at fault. It's called an opinion. It can't be wrong. You don't have to agree with it, but try to at least respect it.
Now... anyone else?
So... Owen sprayed himself with some kind of alien drug/pheremone for the express purpose of attracting a woman who had no interest in him. She immediately became interested and wanted to take Owen back to her place to have sex with him.
Unfortunately (depending on which school of thought you ascribe to) they were interrupted outside the pub by the woman's boyfriend. An argument ensued and chances were looking good that Owen would get the crap beaten out of him, so he used the spray again and became irresistible to the boyfriend as well. The argument then turned to which of them (woman or boyfriend) would get to shag him first.
Now, as I remember it the scene ended in a tug-of-war which left it ambiguous as to whether he had sex with both of them or if he used the confusion to escape. Some say he went through with it, others say he ran off. Personally I think he went through with it as it seems to be in character for him (although admittedly it's hard to know what's in character in a pilot ep).
I also got the impression that this wasn't the first time he'd used the spray, but I could easily be wrong about that and again, the ep didn't make it clear.
Personally? I find the character repugnant. While I can understand how- on the surface- the whole scenario might seem funny and I even managed to grin initially at what he was doing, that quickly changed when I realized he was going to go through with it. The only thing that stopped him- or may have stopped him- was the intervention of the boyfriend.
Now... if you go with what some are saying and believe that Owen ran away at earliest opportunity that doesn't change the fact that he intended to have sex with a woman who had, until the use of the drug, refused his attentions. I equate what Owen did with slipping someone a roofie and proceeding to rape her. The fact that she would have been a willing participant is invalid because of the drug involved and that, in my opinion, isn't funny at all.
Am I taking it too seriously? Maybe, maybe not. I certainly don't think so, especially since I know women who've been raped. I have no real issue with people who didn't read deeper into the scenario and who found it to be amusing, but I'd appreciate it if those who DID like the scene wouldn't imply that there was something wrong with me for disliking it or that I'm the one at fault. It's called an opinion. It can't be wrong. You don't have to agree with it, but try to at least respect it.
Now... anyone else?
Comment