Memento Mori (1008)

[Hatusu]

Agreed, but nothing can beat Emancipation as worst episode ever. Damn did that episode suck.

Think about the fact that you are a guy saying you didn't like "Emancipation". I disagree, but then I'm a woman.

[2ndgenerationalteran]

the episode made me teary eyed, that doesnt happen much but the show hit a poignent string. i loved it.

[suse]

I agree.This episode felt like an episode of "TJ Hooker". Boring writing, mundane film technique...I also thought Claudia Black's make-up and lighting in the interrogation scene were very unflattering.

...I'm trying to think of a good moment. I guess the pants joke.

LOL. I came up with "Hunter" but "TJ Hooker" works. It's all cheesy 80's cop show workmanship. I'd even go for "The A-Team"

I didn't notice Claudia's make-up til she was a waitress. Then I laughed at the caked on green(?) eyeshadow. It' soooo fit with the character's situation. And I'm sure it was an homage to something. Flo in "Alice" even...

Yes, the pants joke was good. Leaves an entirely different impression of you're a Brit though...

CB did a great job emoting when she was holding a gun on Daniel. And with the cop. And overall.

Suse

[takinspace]

I liked it. Not bad for an Earth episode. Biggest let down was that CB and MJ had some good interaction going there, good character going, and then it went elsewhere and got superficial (i.e, off to the races of the main plot).

I was impressed by CB in the dinner scene. Not often she gets to radiate a little.

What was the first Cam-pants loss??

[o-0]

in the motel scene, anyone notice cam's hand being moved up and down between the front and back camera views?
i enjoyed this episode, but i dont like how there's a new villain on earth since that'll make closing the show harder

[Hatusu]

So the show is suddenly getting canceled and Stargate fans are becoming Stargate haters. That's not to say that you have to like every episode. But because this episode didn't take place in a space ship with explosions and tons of action it becomes a bad episode? I used to think Stargate wasn't about explosions or space ships. I thought it was supposed to be about characters and plot development. We got that here. We even got team bonding...

You made a good point, but I just didn't believe it.

[RealmOfX]

Ok, question, who is the spy in SGC. It seems that the Trust were always ahead of SG1 in everything. The spy must be way up high in SGC to get all the info that fast.

In S9 in one of the Ba'al eps they said that they had compromised the secure communications network of the military. So unless the good guys found out about it and shut it down then this is probably how it was done.

If it hadn't of been for CB then I would have turned this one off - definitely a big

MEH

[Dani347]

Yes, the pants joke was good. Leaves an entirely different impression of you're a Brit though...


Suse

I'm guessing pants = underwear?

[Mesenet]

This ep had potential if it didn't have the quick jumps in the story line making it wobble all over the place.

Was the center focus was supposed to be:
Vala having some buried useful knowledge/Vala's backstory/Vala character development/The Trust?

Good moments:
Vala running on instincts to defend herself and the demonstration that her natural persona is to be honest and modest.
Cam jumping into action
The motel scenes
The warehouse scene between Daniel and Vala (stamps feet screaming its not a ship!) when her memory comes back.

All in all it was not a horrible ep. In my book that would be Wormhole X and Citizen Joe. 5 maybe 6/10.

[Mitchell82]

This ep had potential if it didn't have the quick jumps in the story line making it wobble all over the place.

Was the center focus was supposed to be:
Vala having some buried useful knowledge/Vala's backstory/Vala character development/The Trust?

Good moments:
Vala running on instincts to defend herself and the demonstration that her natural persona is to be honest and modest.
Cam jumping into action
The motel scenes
The warehouse scene between Daniel and Vala (stamps feet screaming its not a ship!) when her memory comes back.

All in all it was not a horrible ep. In my book that would be Wormhole X and Citizen Joe. 5 maybe 6/10.

I loved those episodes as well and since I love Vala loved this ep. Not the best ever but still a top 5.

[Mesenet]

Ok, question, who is the spy in SGC. It seems that the Trust were always ahead of SG1 in everything. The spy must be way up high in SGC to get all the info that fast.

Interesting theory - a spy in the SGC. Not sure though. There was an episode where it was explained that The Trust was able to bug/tap into some of the most secure communication lines in the SGC.

[Michelle05]

Based on the leaked previews I expected to really love this episode, but although I enjoyed the team aspects and loved, loved, loved Daniel, the overall plot was unsatisfying. Note: this does not make me a bad fan! It's just my opinion of one episode in a season I've enjoyed a lot.

The chick Goa'uld was not convincing to me and her initial dialog was very stock and expositional. Then later, what was the point of all her investment discussions, and how did she know when companies were going to have breakthroughs or problems?

Vala in the diner just seemed off somehow. I would have thought she would revert to her manipulative, assertive ways but instead she was just sort of pitiful. I did like her interactions with the cop, though he was an idiot to give her up with no paperwork.

That Setesh's treasure was a hoax was a disappointment -- a possible plotline cut off. And it made the memory probing meaningless, so it became just a plot device.

I wish we'd seen Cam get on the motorcycle. That was odd editing, since clearly it was a stunt man from then on.

How does the Trust so conveniently intercept SGC communications? How did anyone follow Vala to the warehouse from the hotel, and why did she leave Mitchell? The last fight scene just seemed like a time filler. There was no question about the outcome, no tension. Also they appeared to be filmed in video or something sort of phony looking.

I liked the "date" scene, loved Daniel talking Vala down, and last team scene at the SGC. Also, Cam and Vala, though those scenes were strangely without energy.

I'll watch it again and maybe like it more the second time, but I'm afraid this one was not a great ep IMO.

Michelle

[SG1-XF9]

I don't see O'Neill pulling a stunt like that these days. **

Well...for sure you don't see him do that....because the thing is...HE'S NOT THERE...to show you!!!

Personaly I don't care if Cam is able to ride a bike....!!When I heard him the first time...it was like I was hearing O'Neill....like the same jokes....!!!

GGGGGgggrrr!! Since when Carter calls Cam....Cam!! I just don't understand....she never been able to say "Jack" more than two times in the whole show!!!

I'm sorry, but as you can see...I'm a huge fan of O'Neill and Sam/Jack!!!!

[suse]

I'm guessing pants = underwear?

Got it in one.

Suse

[suse]

I liked it. Not bad for an Earth episode. Biggest let down was that CB and MJ had some good interaction going there, good character going, and then it went elsewhere and got superficial (i.e, off to the races of the main plot).

I was impressed by CB in the dinner scene. Not often she gets to radiate a little.

What was the first Cam-pants loss??

Ripple Effect.

[Dani347]

The chick Goa'uld was not convincing to me and her initial dialog was very stock and expositional. Then later, what was the point of all her investment discussions, and how did she know when companies were going to have breakthroughs or problems?

For myself, I find when the Goa'uld are masquerading as normal people on Earth, with suits and businesses, they come off as dull. I like my Goa'uld pompous and elaborate and oozing smugness. With costumes.

[Descent]

Since when Carter calls Cam....Cam!! I just don't understand....she never been able to say "Jack" more than two times in the whole show!!!

Because they're both the same rank. They joint command SG-1, which I don't think some people get sometimes.

[michey]

Personally I loved it, but I'm a D/V Shipper, so I would LOL

[majorsal]

just finished watching the ep. i recorded it so, if the feeling came over me, i could fastforward through things.... i tried, i really tried, but i fastforwarded through all of vala's alone without sg1 scenes (which meant all her kidnapping, amnesia stuff, etc).

as for the rest of it; not bad. daniel and vala are nice together, and since vala is more likable... and this leaves me to say well done to the writers, for letting me like vala AND mitchell now. and i want this to continue. they were both very likable for me tonight, so there's no ragging to be done.

i'm not sure i can really judge this ep fairly, but what i saw was fine. and i guess i really didn't mind vala being made a member of sg1 now, since the show is so different than it used to be. i'm sure sam's dry cleaner will be one now, or am i just judging this from a season 9 pov? *shrugs*

so no score (can't fairly), but no cringing, even when mitchell went motorcycle guy.

OH, one more thing. please, PLEASE, before the ptb decide to resolve any daniel/vala stuff, PLEEEEEEAAAAASSSEEE resolve the sam/jack stuff first!!! (10 years, waiting, suffering, nuff said)




sally

[memnarch]

I liked this episode. I really did. But the Trust are starting to piss me off! They're becoming a cheap, filler plot device that Joseph Mallozzi and Paul Mullie pull out of their hats every chance they get. Don't get me wrong, they do good episodes, when they're big episodes (ie Exodus, Counterstrike, Revelations, etc) but they do WAY (!!!) too many Earth episodes! Seriously, 4 out of 5 Earth episodes since season 4 have been written by them, I'd bet.

Anyway, I enjoyed the dinner scene between Daniel and Vala. It's becoming more and more obvious to everyone that Daniel likes her back, and I liked that he tried to have an honest discussion with her (sans the "It's not a date" line, haha) and to try and make here feel welcome. Also, loved that Don Stark was in this episode as Sal. I'm a big fan of his from That 70's Show. I also liked the detective in this episode. Good performance from a guest star. Cameron got some good moments in, plus Teal'c's interrogation techniques always crack me up. Carter's amusement was also amusing for me. And last, but not least, Vala continues to show Sci Fi what gigantic idiots they all are for not renewing the show! Oh, and I liked Landry's moment at the end when he's left standing there! Classic!

Overall, Memento Mori rates a 2.5/4, despite conveniant Trust stuff