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    Quote Originally Posted by tjoflojt View Post
    Well, i'm not sure weather or not to trust the source, but the wikia says this:
    I seriously doubt that the Asgard would use Naquadria as a powersouce since it can be found only on 1 planet, hard to extract in sufficient amounts and above all, highly volatile.

    Also the O'neill class ship was designed (and blown up) long before Kelowna (and before we ever even heard of Naquadria) was discovered.
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    Naqudraih can be made from Naguadah which is stated in the show, making it cannon. Thus it would make it availeble to the asgard if they wish it

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    Quote Originally Posted by tjoflojt View Post
    the fact that O'Neills are pretty much the same size, but with no external signs of generators, and far greater power output (judging by shield strength and weapon power), would seem like a hint to me.
    A hint at better power generation, perhaps, and even than it might simply be more advanced shields/weapons, either way it says nothing about the power source or fuel, if any, type. Naqaudria doesnt seem all that powerfull anyway, just better than what we/gould use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by locutes View Post
    Naqudraih can be made from Naguadah which is stated in the show, making it cannon. Thus it would make it availeble to the asgard if they wish it
    Exactly and the asgard are a ALOT smarter than the gould who came up with it (and they failed sort of)

    Of couce they didnt use it on the belsiner (or however you spell it) something like nutrino (again dont know how to spell it)

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    Quote Originally Posted by oniel193 View Post
    Exactly and the asgard are a ALOT smarter than the gould who came up with it (and they failed sort of)

    Of couce they didnt use it on the belsiner (or however you spell it) something like nutrino (again dont know how to spell it)
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    yea but it is agreed that the asgard could make it. good
    maybe that is why they didnt use it hmmmm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oniel193 View Post
    yea but it is agreed that the asgard could make it. good
    maybe that is why they didnt use it hmmmm.

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    well sg1 brings the goulds for the soup Thor cooks it yuum

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    I reckon that you could have both. I mean think, you can't build something like a Ha'tak ON EARTH without people noticing, and it's hard to ship massive amounts of naquadah and trinium through stargate command. Therefore, if you simply Build it on another planet you have all your problems solved. You could build ships the size of an ori mothership and noone on earth would be the wiser. I'm thinking shipyards, F-302 runways, and stuff like that. you could have the previously suggested al'kesh size ships as a compliment to other ships. Hell you could have a ship so big that a daedalus class ship is like a fighter squadron.

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    The sorely need a smaller ship for support...non fighter carrier...
    Not only are they using the 304 too much but they are losing to many of them.

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    Still say, with a few changes, the Prometheus is the best candidate for a new class....
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    Prometheus is still made for 100+ crew members. We need a ship that can operate with one person, but has a support crew of 50 doctors, engineers and other stuff needed to salve a 304.

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    ok the prommie was good asa experimental ship but not a fully functional warship or even a medical ship unless seriously upgraded with asgard tech
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Lee View Post
    Still say, with a few changes, the Prometheus is the best candidate for a new class....
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    I'm not sure if that's true. I dont think we can install all Asgard tech in X-303 shell. It would be better to figure what tech we need and design a new ship from zero. And if it happens that this new ship is very like Prometheus, than great. if not, it's still ok, because we have a new ship type.

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    Quote Originally Posted by comperius View Post
    I'm not sure if that's true. I dont think we can install all Asgard tech in X-303 shell. It would be better to figure what tech we need and design a new ship from zero. And if it happens that this new ship is very like Prometheus, than great. if not, it's still ok, because we have a new ship type.
    That's why I said revisions.
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    i think they were recycled to rebuild their home.

    all asgard technology is gone sans what we have and use.

    we should not be afraid of the jaffa, a single 304 can kill a continuum fleet, the odyssey can take the continuum fleet 10x plus anubis' fleet 10x. we'd eat them for breakfast.


    offworld construction is stupid, no its insane. the logistics, security. nope, build them on earth. dig a hole, plant a construction site and toss some ground over it. or use asgard holographics. when it's being built, erect a cloaking field
    There's not many security threats in building in the Ida galaxy. From what we know, it's most likely empty due to the previous Replicator infestation.

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    well whetever it is (the construction base) it should be really secure and out of LA reach. Or if not out of reach it has to be shielded so Ha'taks and gliders can't destroy it.

    I would like the idea of construction base to be in PG, so we would be able to secure our position in PG and also that Travelers would work with us on that base. Our tech is good, but their guns are better .

    regarding 303 revison. If you build a ship from zero because of structure and technology changes you can not name it 303a, but 305.

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    Quote Originally Posted by comperius View Post
    well whetever it is (the construction base) it should be really secure and out of LA reach. Or if not out of reach it has to be shielded so Ha'taks and gliders can't destroy it.

    I would like the idea of construction base to be in PG, so we would be able to secure our position in PG and also that Travelers would work with us on that base. Our tech is good, but their guns are better .

    regarding 303 revison. If you build a ship from zero because of structure and technology changes you can not name it 303a, but 305.
    I'm good with both of those. The "revised 303" can be called a 305. And I agree about the Travellers, but we should get rid of the Wraith Threat, or at least have those shipyards near Atlantis, if it goes back.
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