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    Seeing that the Asuran city-ship departed Asuras and Weir & company had time to come up with a plan and implement it before it reached Atlantis makes me wonder just how fast the city-ship hyperspace drives are. It must have taken hours to pull that reprogramming off for Rodney. For some reason I think the reason the ancients didn't just take Atlantis back to earth is that their hyperdrive engines aren't fast enough to distance themselves from the wraith and thus would have led the wraith directly to Earth and the rest of the MW galaxy.
    Just a thought.

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    Well. . .

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    We don't know how far away Asura is from Atlantis.

    But speeds in Stargate have been frelled with so much that it's hard to say. An Asgard ship can travel from their home galaxy to Earth in minutes, but take a week to reach Pegasus.

    It's a real mindfrell.

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    Default Re: Atlantis City Ship stardrive speed: possible spoilers

    Quote Originally Posted by Bragi
    Well. . .

    Spoiler:
    We don't know how far away Asura is from Atlantis.

    But speeds in Stargate have been frelled with so much that it's hard to say. An Asgard ship can travel from their home galaxy to Earth in minutes, but take a week to reach Pegasus.

    It's a real mindfrell.
    Indeed, the writers need to decide on speeds and not change them according to storyneeds, instead change the locations if anything is to be changed.

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    Or explain why it might take longer.

    Like, they couldn't go at full speed because of. . . I dunno. . . someone was cooking a turkey for some fresh sandwiches while they were in hyperspace, and it was draining power from the engines.

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    Default Re: Atlantis City Ship stardrive speed: possible spoilers

    Quote Originally Posted by Bragi
    Well. . .

    Spoiler:
    We don't know how far away Asura is from Atlantis.

    But speeds in Stargate have been frelled with so much that it's hard to say. An Asgard ship can travel from their home galaxy to Earth in minutes, but take a week to reach Pegasus.

    It's a real mindfrell.
    We don't know it took a week to get to Pegasus with that, all we have is some vague comment from Wier about cutting down a couple of weeks of travel time, which is roughly two weeks via Deadalus. It may have been anything from 4 days to 4 minutes travel. It would have been helpful for all the 'Asgard hyperdrives aren't that great' crowd if she said "With their help, we'll be there in a week.", but she didn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by verbalkint
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    Seeing that the Asuran city-ship departed Asuras and Weir & company had time to come up with a plan and implement it before it reached Atlantis makes me wonder just how fast the city-ship hyperspace drives are. It must have taken hours to pull that reprogramming off for Rodney. For some reason I think the reason the ancients didn't just take Atlantis back to earth is that their hyperdrive engines aren't fast enough to distance themselves from the wraith and thus would have led the wraith directly to Earth and the rest of the MW galaxy.
    Just a thought.
    Unlikely. The lantian databank had all the necessary juicy info to produce intergalactic hyperdrives, which were far superior to wraith hyperdrives.

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    Default Re: Atlantis City Ship stardrive speed: possible spoilers

    maybe the asurans were taking their time cos they werent in a hurry. thats something that was mentioned a few times bout the replicators they didnt really care about time.

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    Default Re: Atlantis City Ship stardrive speed: possible spoilers

    Just for the record the Asgard did not move from their galaxy to ours in 4 seconds, they moved form Earth to the void between galaxies ... a much shorter trip.

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    we also dont know the distances travelled, may be to get from earth to pegasus we need to go all the way accross the mw and further i n the void then travel a fair distance in pegasus to get to atlantis, but to get to ida its like crossing the street, short trip to the void, shorter trip in the void than to pegasus. we havent been given an intergalactic map of the SG universe afterall.

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    Default Re: Atlantis City Ship stardrive speed: possible spoilers

    Remember that the Asgard are so quick because their ships generate way more power then Earth ships. The Deadalus did the trip from Earth to Atlantis super quick when it had the ZPM powering it.
    So that means i think:
    More power = Fast hyperdrives

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    i'd still love to see a map, of the relationship between the galaxies. ida MW and pegasus. that would be nice. and as many people have said before it would be great if the writters would get their cannon together and stick to it. Restricting the physical laws in the SG universe will bread better writting i think it might stop them from being so lazy

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    Quote Originally Posted by AsgardCarnage
    i'd still love to see a map, of the relationship between the galaxies. ida MW and pegasus. that would be nice. and as many people have said before it would be great if the writters would get their cannon together and stick to it. Restricting the physical laws in the SG universe will bread better writting i think it might stop them from being so lazy
    That would be sweet if they did provide the audience with a map so that we could actually put distances between galaxies and planets into cannon. Come on TPTB, its been 10 years and we don't even have that yet, pick up the pace.

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    maybe the asurans didnt fully power up the stardrive to allow more power to destrot atlantis when they got there, or maybe its because the hyperdrive is of 10,000 year old design

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    That is something that ABSOLUTELY pisses me off all the time. How the writers change the laws of physics of the show just to suite story line needs. I am TIRED of that. Why cant they be consistent with the technology of stargate. Hyperspace travel is just one of many.

    And as for a map we already have it. Milky way and peguses are about 3.5 million light years apart. And peguses is a dwarf galaxy which means that it is ALOT smaller than the milkyway. Ida is most likely one of the small galaxies that are in orbit around our own.

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    Default Re: Atlantis City Ship stardrive speed: possible spoilers

    Quote Originally Posted by Bragi
    Well. . .

    Spoiler:
    We don't know how far away Asura is from Atlantis.

    But speeds in Stargate have been frelled with so much that it's hard to say. An Asgard ship can travel from their home galaxy to Earth in minutes, but take a week to reach Pegasus.

    It's a real mindfrell.
    maybe the asgard have to go thru our galaxy to get to pegasus. remember Pegasus is suppose to be like orbiting the MW(i think) so the location is changing so the speeds may as well...

    I'd say tho that tehy were o nthat ship for abotu 30 minutes or so... lol...Rodneys a genius he has an entire hour going on in his head for every second we have in ours. lol
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    Default Re: Atlantis City Ship stardrive speed: possible spoilers

    stands to reason that cityship hyperdrives are slower duh
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    Pegasus orbits Andromeda.

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    Default Re: Atlantis City Ship stardrive speed: possible spoilers

    Do we have any proof that they were in a hurry, why always go full speed if they dont think that Atlantis is a match for them anyway.

    Also, remember this is a CITY, not a Yo-Yo . Even though there are 3-ZPM's powering it, remember that you have a Shield and a MASSIVE hyperspace window. Im sure the power requirements are easily met, but read the point above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pasankoon
    That is something that ABSOLUTELY pisses me off all the time. How the writers change the laws of physics of the show just to suite story line needs. I am TIRED of that. Why cant they be consistent with the technology of stargate. Hyperspace travel is just one of many.

    And as for a map we already have it. Milky way and peguses are about 3.5 million light years apart. And peguses is a dwarf galaxy which means that it is ALOT smaller than the milkyway. Ida is most likely one of the small galaxies that are in orbit around our own.
    The thing is there seems to be some debate over whether the galaxies are in the same position in the stargate universe as it is in real life. I think that is one of the primary points of contention when hyperspace speeds are trying to be calculated.

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    Default Re: Atlantis City Ship stardrive speed: possible spoilers

    Actually, the Asuran planet is in a different part of the galaxy from Atlantis, this is mentioned in the episode.

    From Weir and Sheppard's comments I'd go as far as to say they are on the other side of Pegasus, and if not, near the center, which would imply a complicated hyperspace route.

    And yes, it's also a City, but nonetheless, I'd say Lantian Hyperdrives are probably the fastest.

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