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    Quote Originally Posted by sonny1 View Post
    LOL! Typical writer - just proves we all think alike. It was a while back, but like many of the time travel oddities Jen and I discussed, it fell into 'before their time' category.

    Here's a philosophical question for the class. I was having a drink with an actor at a convention a while back, trying to keep them awake until dark so they could get over the jet lag naturally and appear on stage with some semblance of lucidity. Turns out their birthday, a significant one with a zero at the end, occured during the flight, but because of crossing so many timelines between cons in Europe/US and Oz, somehow they'd lost the entire day. Sure, they could get it back again going home, but it was a different date... It may have been the wine but we decided that birthday definitely did not count .
    None of which answers the question of why you chose Daniel's canon birthdate and then didn't have either character make any reference to it. It quite threw me out of the story for several pages wondering why. It's not as if it's a date from a fuzzy screencap of a prop, it was said out loud in an episode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilthoniel View Post
    None of which answers the question of why you chose Daniel's canon birthdate and then didn't have either character make any reference to it. It quite threw me out of the story for several pages wondering why. It's not as if it's a date from a fuzzy screencap of a prop, it was said out loud in an episode.
    Umm.. I think the points made above were that
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    a) seeing as they were in a year PRIOR to Daniel's birth, it wasn't effectively his birthday, and b) it wasn't mentioned/referred to because it wasn't necessarily relevant to the story or the situation they were in.


    And I'm sure you didn't intend your post to be quite as confrontational as its tone suggests....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikki View Post
    I do have a few questions for the upcoming books and please forgive me if they've been asked before; I haven't had a chance to read through the thread.
    Hey Nikki, I'll try to answer all your questions if I can...

    1. I know Relativity and Barque of Heaven are the next ones to be published, but which one will be published first?
    Relativity will be out first, with a planned release for October.

    2. In which time frame will each of the above take place? (eg. season 4/6/8 etc)
    Relativity is set towards the end of the seventh season, after the events of the episode 'Inauguration'.

    3. Will either be told mainly from a certain character's PoV? If so which one?
    Relativity gives all of SG-1 some "screen time" (or should that be "page time"?), but if you pressed me I'd say the book tips slightly in favour of Jack.

    4. Do you have summaries of the plots for either?
    Yup.

    5. And finally, will either have any great Sam/Jack scenes? Any spoilers on this would be great.
    Well, I like to think that all my Sam & Jack scenes are great, but that's just me...
    As for spoilers, that's classified, I'm afraid! All I will say is that certain elements in the novel will prompt some interesting questions about the future for O'Neill and Carter...

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    Thanks so much for your reply JMSwallow! Love your answer to the Sam/Jack question, although I do understand that your not promising anything.

    I'm really excited about 'Relativity' and can't wait to read it. I know I asked if you had summaries for the plots and you gave an answer but what I meant was can you give a short summary of the plot(s)? But, I guess, since you're not giving out any spoilers, that's out of the question, right?

    Anyway, thanks again for the reply, its great being able to ask my questions directly to the author and can't wait for October.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikki View Post
    WOW! What a great thread. I'm a big fan of the fandemonium books (SG1) and had no idea this thread existed. I've read almost every SG1 book written and have loved them. I'm so glad more are going to be published soon. I do have a few questions for the upcoming books and please forgive me if they've been asked before; I haven't had a chance to read through the thread.

    1. I know Relativity and Barque of Heaven are the next ones to be published, but which one will be published first?

    2. In which time frame will each of the above take place? (eg. season 4/6/8 etc)

    3. Will either be told mainly from a certain character's PoV? If so which one?

    4. Do you have summaries of the plots for either?

    5. And finally, will either have any great Sam/Jack scenes? There were one/two of the books where I felt they could have interacted more but on the whole I've been quite pleased with the Sam/Jack interaction in the novels. Any spoilers on this would be great.

    Thanks very much.

    Nikki xxx
    Hi Nikki,

    The Barque of Heaven will be published in January. Barque takes place in mid season three and is told in turn from the pov of all four team members – which is quite fun to do, I must say. The team stay together all the time and interact equally with each other.

    The basic plot is that the team are trapped in a trial set up centuries ago by Ra and have to battle their way from planet to planet while searching for a way home. Can't really say more than that yet, I don't like giving out spoilers, but as it gets closer I'll be able to put an excerpt up.

    cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikki View Post
    I'm really excited about 'Relativity' and can't wait to read it. I know I asked if you had summaries for the plots and you gave an answer but what I meant was can you give a short summary of the plot(s)? But, I guess, since you're not giving out any spoilers, that's out of the question, right?
    Anyway, thanks again for the reply, its great being able to ask my questions directly to the author and can't wait for October.
    The cover art for Relativity is going through approvals at MGM right now, and when that's done I'll post the back-cover blurb, so expect to see more soon; and I'm more than happy to talk about my work here at GateWorld - everyone here is enthusiastic about the novels and as a writer that's really rewarding to see!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanne Wood View Post
    Hi Nikki,

    The Barque of Heaven will be published in January. Barque takes place in mid season three and is told in turn from the pov of all four team members – which is quite fun to do, I must say. The team stay together all the time and interact equally with each other.

    The basic plot is that the team are trapped in a trial set up centuries ago by Ra and have to battle their way from planet to planet while searching for a way home. Can't really say more than that yet, I don't like giving out spoilers, but as it gets closer I'll be able to put an excerpt up.

    cheers,
    Suzanne.
    Thanks for your reply Suzanne. The idea sounds really interesting and I'm very excited about reading the novel. I really enjoy team stories and this sounds like it's going to be brilliant!

    Quote Originally Posted by JMSwallow View Post
    The cover art for Relativity is going through approvals at MGM right now, and when that's done I'll post the back-cover blurb, so expect to see more soon; and I'm more than happy to talk about my work here at GateWorld - everyone here is enthusiastic about the novels and as a writer that's really rewarding to see!
    Thanks, I look forward to the blurb. And enthusiastic? Yep, that's us.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikki View Post
    1. I know Relativity and Barque of Heaven are the next ones to be published, but which one will be published first?
    The next novels to be published are:

    Casualties of War (September)
    Relativity (October)
    Blood Ties (December)
    Barque of Heaven (January)

    I should probably mention here that Blood Ties, written by Beth Christensen (author of Casualties of War) and I, will come under the Atlantis banner, however Daniel Jackson is assigned to the team, several Earth-based characters from SG-1 put in an appearance, and a good chunk of the story takes place on Earth.

    This wasn't done for the sake of having a crossover, quite the opposite, in fact, as that aspect raised several issues that needed to be dealt with (and may yet need more tweaking depending on MGM's final once over). Rather it's crucial to the story, which harks back to the very origins of Stargate (the movie) and was triggered by something that Dean Devlin said in 1994. It was a story that could only work based on elements seen in the Atlantis universe plus Earth, with Daniel Jackson as an archeologist.

    For the acheology jocks, time to brush off the works of Zecharia Sitchin... For everyone else, you might like to think about what might've happened if the K-T event hadn't occured.

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    While I think of it, for those interested, my short story, The Promise, is coming out in the Aug/Sept (#31) issue of Andromeda Spaceways Inflight Magazine (http://www.andromedaspaceways.com)

    These guys have the best system I've ever seen for submissions. It's a three stage system with no names attached, just a number, so there's no preference for 'name' authors versus completely unpublished newbies. Only when three editors read it and accept it does the final editor see who wrote it. Even better, you can track the progress of your submission online. So for everyone out there who asks how can they get published in an SF mag (it's distributed in Aus and the US, not sure where else.)

    cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alipeeps View Post
    Umm.. I think the points made above were that
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    a) seeing as they were in a year PRIOR to Daniel's birth, it wasn't effectively his birthday, and b) it wasn't mentioned/referred to because it wasn't necessarily relevant to the story or the situation they were in.


    And I'm sure you didn't intend your post to be quite as confrontational as its tone suggests....
    I'm not being confrontational I am genuinely curious why an author would chose a date particularly resonant to one character and then completely ignore it. Just because it hadn't happened yet in that time line doesn't make it any less the date of Daniel's birth which obviously had happened in the timeline he and Jack were still living because he was there. In terms of writing I found it very jarring because I spent the next few pages waiting for a pay off that never happened. It's like that old advice to mystery writers about if you put a gun in the room in chapter one you had darned better use it at some point.

    I'm not a huge fan of the Fandemonium books, I prefer stories that have a strong role for Daniel and no Sam and Jack romance but I read this one on the recommendation of a friend and mostly quite liked it so when someone else asked the question about the date I was disappointed that it wasn't answered. I guess the answer is that I shouldn't bother taking an interest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanne Wood View Post
    The Barque of Heaven will be published in January. Barque takes place in mid season three and is told in turn from the pov of all four team members – which is quite fun to do, I must say. The team stay together all the time and interact equally with each other.
    Thanks, Suzanne. I might check this one out too. No romance or pining, I hope? It would be nice if we could have a few books for those of us who prefer it that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilthoniel View Post
    I'm not being confrontational I am genuinely curious why an author would chose a date particularly resonant to one character and then completely ignore it. Just because it hadn't happened yet in that time line doesn't make it any less the date of Daniel's birth which obviously had happened in the timeline he and Jack were still living because he was there. In terms of writing I found it very jarring because I spent the next few pages waiting for a pay off that never happened. It's like that old advice to mystery writers about if you put a gun in the room in chapter one you had darned better use it at some point.

    I'm not a huge fan of the Fandemonium books, I prefer stories that have a strong role for Daniel and no Sam and Jack romance but I read this one on the recommendation of a friend and mostly quite liked it so when someone else asked the question about the date I was disappointed that it wasn't answered. I guess the answer is that I shouldn't bother taking an interest.
    As I said in my post earlier, I am sure - I hope so anyway - that it was not your intent to be confrontational... however, the tone of your post does rather come across that way...

    I haven't read the book and don't know the full details of the plot... and I shall out this in spoiler tags for those who don't want to know anything about the plot..

    Spoiler:
    ..but from what I understand the book deals with the infamous events of the Roswell landing and the date in question - 8 July, I think? - was chosen not because it has anything to do with Daniel but because it is the factual date on which the referenced Roswell events actually happened IN REAL LIFE. The date was chosen irrespective of Daniel and his birthday. And whilst your obvious interest in the character of Daniel and the minutae of his life makes you feel that it was an oversight that his birthdate was not referenced, I think it is simply the case that such a reference didn't fit the events of the story. As I said, I know little of the plot but when you're running around trapped in the past and dealing with famous historical events etc, are you really going to take the time to stop and say, "Hey, on this date in xxxx years, you get born! Cool, huh?"

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    Thanks, Suzanne. I might check this one out too. No romance or pining, I hope? It would be nice if we could have a few books for those of us who prefer it that way.
    Uh, what books have had tones of romance or pining? I've read all the books and have not noticed any such tones or suggestions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gate Geek View Post
    Uh, what books have had tones of romance or pining? I've read all the books and have not noticed any such tones or suggestions.

    Totally agree. Anything that has been there has been canon… as it should be.

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    Speaking of all things Roswellian, this is cool:

    http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi...1.2007.00742.x

    You can download the entire research paper as a PDF. At last, an insight into what really happened at Tunguska..

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    ...and if they happen to find a Go'ald mother ship in the bottom of the lake, even cooler

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonny1 View Post

    I should probably mention here that Blood Ties, written by Beth Christensen (author of Casualties of War) and I, will come under the Atlantis banner, however Daniel Jackson is assigned to the team, several Earth-based characters from SG-1 put in an appearance, and a good chunk of the story takes place on Earth.

    Sonny

    Whee! I am VERY excited about the Daniel part. He's my favorite character. For some reason I'm really curious about this...i know they're two different types of scientist, but will Daniel be interecting with Rodney at all? Is Rodney even on the Atlantis team to earth? Don't know why, but Daniel and Rodney talking or interecting on any level seems like it would be great/hilarious/etcetc.

    And just a shoutout to you and Jennifer Fallon, I'm in the middle of Roswell right now and I LOVE it. Time travel rocks in any form. And hey, any book where Daniel gets shot is A+ in my book. Sorry; I'm a whumper too. I write waaaay too much fic...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilthoniel View Post
    I'm not being confrontational I am genuinely curious why an author would chose a date particularly resonant to one character and then completely ignore it.
    I've been reading this Daniel's Birthday thread with some amusement for a while now, but I feel compelled to put my two cents worth in. Allow me to give you the reason, although I'm not sure you're going to like it.

    Firstly, July 8, 1947, as has been previously stated several times, was the date a newspaper first carried the story of an alien craft found in Roswell. We didn't chose the date for any other reason.

    Secondly... and this is the bit that cracks me up, when the issue of the dates came up during the writing of Roswell, we consiously decided stay away from whether or not it was Daniel's birthday.

    So, why didn't we go there? Because we would have had to step into the murky waters of Daniel's actual birthday.

    Just because he said it was, doesn't make it so. In 1969, Daniel claims to be 4 and a half when they are there. But therein lies the problem. They land in 1969 on August 4th (I remember that because that's my birthday). Daniel, if his DOB was July 8, would have just turned 4, just three and a bit weeks earlier. If this was the case, he'd not be 4 and a half at all. He would be only just 4. You could forgive a discrepancy of months, but not of that much.

    So, take your pick, either he was lying in 1969, or in he was confused and only just conscious in "Forever and a Day" the episode where he nominates Jul 8th as his birthday. I'm going with the latter.

    In fact, July 8 is probably not his birthday...

    According to the script from the episode, the conversation goes as follows...
    DOCTOR - Hey... How do you feel?
    DANIEL - Confused.
    DOCTOR (OS) - I bet... Can you tell me your name?
    DANIEL - Daniel Jackson.
    DOCTOR (OS) And what’s your birthday?
    DANIEL - July 8th.
    So... do we really want to slow the entire story of Roswell down while we investigate this entirely irrelevant issue? Of course not, because, bottom line, it is not certain that July 8 1965 is Daniel's birthday, and therefore we decided not to go there.

    As Sonny said, during our discussions, "Birthdays aren't just about cake and candles, you know."
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    Here’s something to think about re time travel.

    Let’s say you’re born February 10, 1970 and on August 10, 2011, you use an instantaneous time machine to travel ahead to, say, February 10, 2050.
    How old are you when you get there?
    1. 41 years and 6 months
    2. 80 years

    This is not a trick question, btw. I put it to my 11 year old son, and he replied, answer 1, because no matter when you are, by virtue of using a time machine you’ve skipped the whole ikky aging thing and your body is still only 40 years and 6 months old, not 80.

    Let’s go the other way. Let’s say you’re born July 8 (no, this is not in reference to Daniel because as Jen said in her post above, that whole question of his birth date was so iffy, it was dismissed in a 20 second coversation as irrelevant very early, this is just an example).

    Okay, so you’re born July 08, 1965, and on February 08 2007, you travel back in time to July 08, 1947.
    How old are you when you get there?
    1. minus 18 years and it’s your non-birthday because you haven’t yet been born (which breaks the converse of the Grandfather paradox)
    2. 41 years and 6 months

    Answer: 2. No matter what date it is, you’re still only 41 years and 6 months, so no cake and candles for you, but as my son said, if you’d left to go back in time on July 08, not February 08, then it would still be your birthday until the 24 hours on your biological clock is over.

    I admit, my son got to thinking about all of that, and decided that he was prepared to toss physics to the four winds and go back and forth in time 364 years to every January 25 (his birthday), day after day, just so he could have 364 consecutive birthdays (cake+presents), and he’d arrive back in the present, having aged only a year, on his 12th birthday—how cool would that be?

    Kids, ya gotta love ‘em.

    Of course, then there are the twins, one of whom stays on Earth while the other goes hooting around the solar system for a year in a ship travelling close to the speed of light. He, of course, ages only a year, but then he arrives back on Earth to find his twin brother has aged 50 years.
    See Einstein for a remarkably succinct explanation.

    Bottom line is that time travel has more conundrums than you can poke a stick at. Some readers don’t want to wrap their brains around that, some can’t, some just plain don’t like it, and yet others love its story telling opportunities. Everyone’s wet-wired differently.

    As to the placing a gun on the wall and not using it, if we attempted to address every stray end the Stargate universe has out there, every book would be delivered on a flatbed truck and the story we chose to tell would have been killed by irrelevant minutia. July 7 and 8 are keynote dates in Roswell’s history. The story that Jen and I wrote is titled Roswell. That’s the gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonny1 View Post
    Here’s something to think about re time travel.

    Let’s say you’re born February 10, 1970 and on August 10, 2011, you use an instantaneous time machine to travel ahead to, say, February 10, 2050.
    How old are you when you get there?
    1. 41 years and 6 months
    2. 80 years

    This is not a trick question, btw. I put it to my 11 year old son, and he replied, answer 1, because no matter when you are, by virtue of using a time machine you’ve skipped the whole ikky aging thing and your body is still only 40 years and 6 months old, not 80.

    Let’s go the other way. Let’s say you’re born July 8 (no, this is not in reference to Daniel because as Jen said in her post above, that whole question of his birth date was so iffy, it was dismissed in a 20 second coversation as irrelevant very early, this is just an example).

    Okay, so you’re born July 08, 1965, and on February 08 2007, you travel back in time to July 08, 1947.
    How old are you when you get there?
    1. minus 18 years and it’s your non-birthday because you haven’t yet been born (which breaks the converse of the Grandfather paradox)
    2. 41 years and 6 months

    Answer: 2. No matter what date it is, you’re still only 41 years and 6 months, so no cake and candles for you, but as my son said, if you’d left to go back in time on July 08, not February 08, then it would still be your birthday until the 24 hours on your biological clock is over.

    I admit, my son got to thinking about all of that, and decided that he was prepared to toss physics to the four winds and go back and forth in time 364 years to every January 25 (his birthday), day after day, just so he could have 364 consecutive birthdays (cake+presents), and he’d arrive back in the present, having aged only a year, on his 12th birthday—how cool would that be?

    Kids, ya gotta love ‘em.

    Of course, then there are the twins, one of whom stays on Earth while the other goes hooting around the solar system for a year in a ship travelling close to the speed of light. He, of course, ages only a year, but then he arrives back on Earth to find his twin brother has aged 50 years.
    See Einstein for a remarkably succinct explanation.

    Bottom line is that time travel has more conundrums than you can poke a stick at. Some readers don’t want to wrap their brains around that, some can’t, some just plain don’t like it, and yet others love its story telling opportunities. Everyone’s wet-wired differently.

    As to the placing a gun on the wall and not using it, if we attempted to address every stray end the Stargate universe has out there, every book would be delivered on a flatbed truck and the story we chose to tell would have been killed by irrelevant minutia. July 7 and 8 are keynote dates in Roswell’s history. The story that Jen and I wrote is titled Roswell. That’s the gun.

    Boy, wait’ll you guys see what Jen and I did in the short story for Titan’s Stargate magazine <vbg>.

    Ah...nothing like a little time travel paradoxes and Einstein to wake up tp in the morning. It was refreshing change from teaching Newton's laws of motion and how they apply to rockets these past three weeks.
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    Default Re: Ask the Authors (Fandemonium)

    Quote Originally Posted by sonny1 View Post
    Bottom line is that time travel has more conundrums than you can poke a stick at.
    You are so right. And there's gonna be a lot of stick-poking in Relativity...

    Out Now:
    Stargate Universe: Air, Stargate Atlantis: Nightfall, Stargate SG-1: Relativity and Stargate Atlantis: Halcyon (from Fandemonium Books)
    Stargate SG-1: First Prime, Stargate Atlantis: Zero Point and Stargate SG-1: Shell Game (from Big Finish Productions)
    "Outsiders" (Stargate: The Official Magazine #20), "Choices" (Stargate: The Official Magazine #10)
    Coming Soon:
    Stargate Audio Adventures Series 3 (from Big Finish Productions)
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