Nox virtual battle fleet

[Daryl Froggy]

Hello, welcome. This thread is for the design and implementation of starships that the Nox might build for battle.

I desire that no one make ships that are too over the top or too far from the known Nox dislike for combat. While this will severely limit the designs it will quite possibly force us to think of more imaginative ways to defeat a powerful enemy.

Here are the types of ships we will need for this fleet:

Battleship

Cruiser

[Buba uognarf]

i think there should be some basic rules for the nox like whether their ships are organic or what kind of weapons they have...i think cloak is going to be standard though...do you want us to post designs here or in the original design thread?

[tobi]

I think if someone should have organic ships, it's the nox.

[Daryl Froggy]

I think if someone should have organic ships, it's the nox.

I agree tobi but from what I saw of their floating cities their ships would also have a lot of metal parts too. To my mind I would say that their ships would be anti-Wraith, Basically they would have organic parts and mechanical parts but it would be put together in a pleasant way.

[tobi]

I also think they're fighting strategy should be related to nature. Look like animals hunt their prey and try to adapt that to ships. It would certanily be fun if a ship would eat another but probably not very realistic.

[Daryl Froggy]

I also think they're fighting strategy should be related to nature. Look like animals hunt their prey and try to adapt that to ships. It would certanily be fun if a ship would eat another but probably not very realistic.

That depends o how you define 'eating ships' there are several way in which the ships wouldn't have to touch each other.

But every Nox ship will be able to cloak completely.

[Buba uognarf]

their cloak should be central to their ships possibly firing when cloaked....it would be intresting to see similarities to the wraith seeing as the wraith seem to be the ultimate enemy when it comes bio-logical/organic tech.....we need to discuss weapons

[Daryl Froggy]

their cloak should be central to their ships possibly firing when cloaked....it would be intresting to see similarities to the wraith seeing as the wraith seem to be the ultimate enemy when it comes bio-logical/organic tech.....we need to discuss weapons

Ooh tell if this is a bad idea for a weapon.

How about they fire some kind of spore pods. they would knock our their enemies ships but not damage them and if the shots went ary* they wouldn't adversly effect a planets environment.

[Buba uognarf]

Ooh tell if this is a bad idea for a weapon.

How about they fire some kind of spore pods. they would knock our their enemies ships but not damage them and if the shots went ary* they wouldn't adversly effect a planets environment.

it's possible... but how the spores get into the ships?? it's possible that long ago the nox were more violent and something that happened changed their persective

[tobi]

I like the spore idea. some rapidly growing space plant which squeezes the ship untill its hull breackes

[Buba uognarf]

I like the spore idea. some rapidly growing space plant which squeezes the ship untill its hull breackes

lol...i thought the spores were surposed to be non lethal....i think these kind of growing plants are slighly dar fetched and they wouldn't work on shields maybe some variation on drone tech?

[Gilgamesh]

Speaking of nature, how do we typically deal with bears that wander into suburbia? We hit 'em with a tranquilizer dart, haul 'em many miles out into the woods, and leave 'em.

I imagine the Nox would be more likely to do something like that. Use non-lethal force, like a stun weapon that could knock out everyone on board an enemy ship. When the enemy combatants wake back up, they find they’re mysteriously parked in a stable orbit around their own home planet, with no idea how they got there.

That would send two messages to an enemy:

1. We could have killed you, but didn’t.
2. We know where you live.

[Buba uognarf]

i like that idea but against a powerful foe they may have to use lethal force

[immhotep]

Technology idea: Please review.

I think a few technolgies that are likely for power sources would be cold fusion or an advanced synthetic photosynthesis.
for weapons i think Biological weapons are the most likely, some kind of aerosol chemical that put people in a permenent sleep or coma (not killing directly, kinda like in morpheus)
For a cloak i think its not a traditional field like on the PJ's but rather like an outer skin made of resin that absorbs energy sensors and weapons fire; negating the need for shield within an atmosphere.
Engine's are more than likely chemical engines, that are refined but do not rely heavily of advanced technology.
The hull of thier vessel are likely organic but with some kind of reinforcement, perhaps a organism engineered to grow over a a trinium superstructure?

[Gilgamesh]

i like that idea but against a powerful foe they may have to use lethal force

That may depend on how territorial the Nox feel about the planet we saw them on in “The Nox.” It may not be their home planet. For all we know, the Nox may be scattered around on several planets, with just one floating city-ship per planet.

If someone is threatening to attack, their response could be to simply cloak and move to another planet, if for no other reason than to prevent a fight that might damage the ecology.

How do you fight someone who refuses to engage you on your terms, but simply disappears instead?

[Buba uognarf]

I think a few technolgies that are likely for power sources would be cold fusion or an advanced synthetic photosynthesis.
for weapons i think Biological weapons are the most likely, some kind of aerosol chemical that put people in a permenent sleep or coma (not killing directly, kinda like in morpheus)
For a cloak i think its not a traditional field like on the PJ's but rather like an outer skin made of resin that absorbs energy sensors and weapons fire; negating the need for shield within an atmosphere.
Engine's are more than likely chemical engines, that are refined but do not rely heavily of advanced technology.
The hull of thier vessel are likely organic but with some kind of reinforcement, perhaps a organism engineered to grow over a a trinium superstructure?

you have some very good ideas what do you mean by synthetic photosynthesis cause photosynthesis would require sunlight...
the weapons idea would work but they'd either need shield piercing tech or standard weapons to lower shields...
the cloak idea is good but as i remember the nox could their minds in some way or another to cloak things???

That may depend on how territorial the Nox feel about the planet we saw them on in “The Nox.” It may not be their home planet. For all we know, the Nox may be scattered around on several planets, with just one floating city-ship per planet.

If someone is threatening to attack, their response could be to simply cloak and move to another planet, if for no other reason than to prevent a fight that might damage the ecology.

How do you fight someone who refuses to engage you on your terms, but simply disappears instead?

if so then whats the point of having a virtual fleet...depends what time frame we're dealign with when this is set...

[Daryl Froggy]

Technology idea: Please review.

I think a few technolgies that are likely for power sources would be cold fusion or an advanced synthetic photosynthesis.
for weapons i think Biological weapons are the most likely, some kind of aerosol chemical that put people in a permenent sleep or coma (not killing directly, kinda like in morpheus)
For a cloak i think its not a traditional field like on the PJ's but rather like an outer skin made of resin that absorbs energy sensors and weapons fire; negating the need for shield within an atmosphere.
Engine's are more than likely chemical engines, that are refined but do not rely heavily of advanced technology.
The hull of thier vessel are likely organic but with some kind of reinforcement, perhaps a organism engineered to grow over a a trinium superstructure?

interesting I'd say the cold fusion plant would be the best bet for primary power and the advanced photosynthesis might work for back up power.

I don't think the Nox would use a type of aerosol on anyone. That's why I suggested the spore pods, they could have some sort of shield penetrating system or they could have a type of dimensional cloak that allows them to simply fly through physical objects and shields and deliver their no-lethal sleeping spores.

I'm not entirely sure they'd use trinium but yeah something to that affect.

Should they have shields as well as cloaks or just cloaks?

[immhotep]

well this was someone else idea for how the wriath powered their ships, but it works better for the nox...obviosuly sunlight was involved but the method used to extract energy was more complex, the plants were engineered and grown to provide as much pwoer as possible ( lots of clorophyll) and then when ships stop they automaticlly recharge in space...it was explained better in other' words.
well i thought about that as well, this could be for ground troops. An energy weapon of some kind, maybe targeted sunlight (obviously technology involved and its all advanced)...lasers even.
The cloak that hid their ships and themselves may be the same thing, the resin is a naturally ocuring background substance, thats basicly everywhere on the nox homeworld, maybe a byproduct of a plants natural function...like tree pine but it is carried like pollen and so gets everywhere: its only when the nox found and studied it were they able to make things vanish by targeting it with the right frequency of brain wave.

[Daryl Froggy]

The cloak that hid their ships and themselves may be the same thing, the resin is a naturally ocuring background substance, thats basicly everywhere on the nox homeworld, maybe a byproduct of a plants natural function...like tree pine but it is carried like pollen and so gets everywhere: its only when the nox found and studied it were they able to make things vanish by targeting it with the right frequency of brain wave.

the only problem wiht that is that one of them cloaked that Ion cannon on Tollana.

[immhotep]

the nox may carry portable sources of resin that are concealed within the pjamas