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    Default Weir Must Die!

    I am really sorry here people, but she is TOTALLY out of place in Atlantis.

    After last nights ep where she is conducting the Spanish Inquisition and allowing that security chief to personally insult everyone thus ruining any relationship for a long time, I was done with her.

    She is in charge without a clue. She tries to be stoic but comes across like Bush on 9-11 reading My Pet Goat. Totally deer in the headlights.

    WRAITH BAIT!

    Feed her to the wraith they just captured so they can analyze their feeding habits.

    I don't see what her purpose is except to be annoying.

    She definitely is not a leader.

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    I don't know if it's Weir.. I think it's the actress. I'm sure Jessica Steen would have portrayed Weir much better, that's atleast what I think.

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    Well, she is suppose to be a superb negotiator and a diplomatic. We are only episode 5 in, give it a chance!
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    I must completely disagree with you Lightmaker. I think that Weir is acting completely reasonable for being in the position she is in EXCEPT that I would have reigned in that Sergeant's 'tude early on. In the end, the Sergeant's suspicions helped to find the answer.

    Did you like the way Hammond managed his base? He really wasn't very effective either, IMO. He would lay some smack down here and there and "make decisions" but I don't think he was any more effective than Weir.

    Weir recognized her mistakes each time and acknowledged them (a big plus in my book) each time and seems to be growing from the experiences.


    Then again, I might be too biased... I find her extremely attractive..

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    I'm not fond of the character, but I don't want her dead. That's a little ridiculously extreme, if you ask me. Give it some more time. Maybe Weir will even out some more in her characterization.

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    Yes I thought that Hammond was perfect in his role considering the nature of the SGC during his command. I would have gone deeper into his character, but in the end we know quite a bit about him.

    I cannot picture the episode in which sit down diplomacy will factor in. Unlike last season with the old Weir and the Go'auld, diplomacy requires some knowledge of the factions involved. Their was plenty of background on the Go'auld but there is none in Atlantis.

    The Sergeant was too pushy and should have been relieved. The only reason he found the transmitter was it was in the script. Diplomacy you say? Why didn't they just ask to search Tey'la's things.

    She has no purpose in Atlantis and if they can't get her something to do besides get all exasperated over whether to lower the shield or to dial out, she's lunch!

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    I have to agree with you to an extent. So far I just can't get the used to this new actress for Weir. As for the character, Weir, I am not pleased with her handling of Atlantis so far, however, Weir does come across as a person who learns greatly from experience and I think things will improve over time. Another thing, I think it would be far better if Sheppard and Weir were equal partners in leadership of Atlantis. That way they can balance each other.

    I also have to say that the Security person was a complete a$$hole. I believe he had the right concerns and should've voiced them, but his attitude and how he said those things were just wrong. He was acting like arrogant tyrant. If he would've been a bit more polite in going about his business, there really wouldn't been a problem. Personnaly, I would'ved decked him early on in the episode for his attitude. Also, did anyone notice how Teyla "brushed the Sergeant off her shoulders" when she came to the "spanish inquisition" with Weir and the Sergeant? I thought it was classic. The Sergeant make some remark she looks at him like "you wanna try that again?" and went on talking to Weir. Cool stuff.

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    I agree as well. More that the actress simply is not good in this role. The character of Weir leaves alot to be desired but in the hands of a good actress and the writers gettng a clue it could work. However, as it is now, i find myself hoping that each episode finds less and less of Weir but that is a futile hope as she has a central role.

    Last week she took someone down without thought, this week she simply looks at the guy with exasperation?? The premise of last nights episode did not make sense to me in context of the episodes so far. So far i have liked SGA with the exception of the Weir actress.
    Interviews?? Please............ i am sorry, it was all to off. I can not even explain it.
    She has to go or play a limited role or the show will not make it--i fear.
    I also agree that Shepards roll as a leader needs to be upgraded.
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    Could we please stop calling for the "death" of characters we don't like? Sheesh...

    I'm still not sure of Weir's motivation to be where she is, but she's growing on me as a leader of Atlantis. Only time will tell...
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    I'm with AG here folks, I mean, there is nothing quite so bad as "X Character I Don't Like Must DIE." except perhaps "X TV Show SUCKS!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lightmaker
    I am really sorry here people, but she is TOTALLY out of place in Atlantis.

    After last nights ep where she is conducting the Spanish Inquisition and allowing that security chief to personally insult everyone thus ruining any relationship for a long time, I was done with her.

    She is in charge without a clue. She tries to be stoic but comes across like Bush on 9-11 reading My Pet Goat. Totally deer in the headlights.

    WRAITH BAIT!

    Feed her to the wraith they just captured so they can analyze their feeding habits.

    I don't see what her purpose is except to be annoying.

    She definitely is not a leader.
    Stop making attacks on bush, what is it with you people, you gotta insult the president everytime you post? Its unneccessary and rude. Dont do it.

    She plays Dr. Wier well, and we cant say how Dr. Wier is suppose to be played because we only seen one other person do it in 2 episodes and I didnt like her that whole time cause she took away the man hammond.
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    I'm not so sure about the Dr. Wier character either, something about the character just seems a little off to me and I can't put my finger on it. However, I do think wishing death on a character is a wee bit extreme. Plus it's only been a few episodes so I'm willing to wait and see if they flesh the character out a bit before I vote her off the island.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metonic
    Stop making attacks on bush, what is it with you people, you gotta insult the president everytime you post? Its unneccessary and rude. Dont do it.

    She plays Dr. Wier well, and we cant say how Dr. Wier is suppose to be played because we only seen one other person do it in 2 episodes and I didnt like her that whole time cause she took away the man hammond.
    Right this is not a forum about politics. Anyway i don't understand so many people do not like Bush
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    Quote Originally Posted by veneticuss
    Right this is not a forum about politics. Anyway i don't understand so many people do not like Bush
    You really don't understand? You do need to read up more on the world political situation.

    In any case, I don't see what all the fuss is about remarks that compare characters to real-life individuals. While I disagree with Lightmaker's assessment of Weir (and Higginson), his Bush comment was made in context and was not completely from left field.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz Lightyear
    You really don't understand? You do need to read up more on the world political situation.

    In any case, I don't see what all the fuss is about remarks that compare characters to real-life individuals. While I disagree with Lightmaker's assessment of Weir (and Higginson), his Bush comment was made in context and was not completely from left field.
    OK, sorry then, my mistake.
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    I think Weir is kind of annoying. =/

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    I have to agree that she doesnt fit in. Letting the Wraith get her would let the other characters on the show expand while making the Wraith look even more evil.

    The one thing thats missing on Atlantis is a good looking woman (Teyla is ok). You might call that sexist, but its true. Almost every successful sci-fi series has had at least one very attractive female: Charmed, Buffy, Every Star Trek series, SG-1, Smallville, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lightmaker
    The Sergeant was too pushy and should have been relieved. The only reason he found the transmitter was it was in the script.
    That is most definately the worst reason I have ever heard He only exists because it was in the script!

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    Thanks Buzz. If you see Farenheit 9-11 you can see what I mean.

    OK, maybe I don't want Weir dead, but I want most everything about her to change, and soon! She really does not fit in with the flow.

    While Daniel was a civillian in the middle of the military, he wasn't in charge and needed to prove himself.

    Weir IS in charge and there is no changing that fact. She doesn't have the experience to lead a MILITARY group. She is not trained in that level of response.

    Her delay in opening the gate could have been deadly. Her failure to tell people NOT to stand in front of the gate when people are shooting through it got McKay shot in the face.

    She simply is not qualified IMO.

    BTW, my background is 49yo and a Marine Vet, Viet Nam. I know a little about the military!

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    Actually, insulting the President - any President or government official, in fact - is my right as an American citizen and I try to do it every chance I get. Especially when they insult me first. However, there are other forums for that.

    I'm with the camp that can't quite figure Weir as a character, but I'm probably also likely to be voted "Most Likely To Suspend Belief". In any case, I think the idea was that they did not automatically assume (on Earth) that Atlantis would be a military operation and they just brought along a military contingent for backup. They didn't know anythinga bout the Wraith until after they arrived.

    FWIW, when I think of the fact that Season 7 of SG-1 was supposed to be the last season, this makes more sense.
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