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    Quote Originally Posted by Elite Anubis Guard
    Don't get me wrong, I'm not getting on at your. I really like Horizon, and you know that. And I don't mean to irritate you, but Biosphere-Death Star, Super Drone Beam-Whatever that thing was that destroyed planets. I mean, comeon. It was a big ass dish. Now, I really want to make it clear. I think you are a great writer and I know the similarities are not done on purpose, I think your doing great in making a new part of the Stargate universe. Look at S7s god-aweful Star Wars rip-off, everytime I see that I cringe, but that was extremely badly handled by TPTB and I think you have done well this season to detract from all the similarities, hell, I think this is the first time in this season that I have picked up on a similarity and it's the lack of them this season that caused this to just jump out at me.
    The biosphere was established back in "The Enoly," and it has nothing to do with a Death Star. For one it's much bigger, and it's not even round.

    To be honest, I don't even find half of what's out there in terms of movies and TV shows worth watching or spending money on. Not that's it's bad, I just have other, more important things to do with my time. Probably one of the reasons I haven't been to the movies in almost a year. I'm more interested in creating things of my own, as opposed to watching something else's work. Again, not that I think it's bad. I'm just too busy trying to juggle the various things I have going on. Half of which I don't even mention here. I've even had the season finales of SG-1, SGA and BSG on tape for several weeks until, finally, I got around to watching them. There's a tone of movies I'd like to see, and I always plan on going. So far... sadly... I've seen none of them. So I'm really not interested in being similiar to pretty much anything out there, and I've seen most likely much less than most of you have.

    So the point of my saying is, I don't even have too much that I could rip off.

    And I do agree with Ryu, it seems Chris is mostly there to bounce developement off of Lenori and he's a great character but I don't see him working as well without Chris which is why you probably keep her there. But, I really feel you have too many characters to handle. Chris' job really isn't that unique anymore or needed. All you need to do is give the AT to someone who is really smart and could probably be able to do some translation stuff beside a normal job.
    I think Christine has had some great development this season. In my oppinion, Chase is the one who's lacking character development actually. Other than in Christine's case, Chase has no backstory, etc. That is, there is a backstory, it's just not featured in the episodes as much as we'd like it to.

    Don't get me wrong, there's room for a lot of improvement. I just don't agree that Christine is the character that desperately needs more development. In my honest oppinion, it's Chase. And we've talked about this among the staff. In fact, we're already working on an episode (and possible arc) for Season Three that will change that.

    Also, as I've said... we don't have an AT anymore. No. That's not a joke. Last I checked, it was on the biosphere when the array detonated. We don't miss or ignore details.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lt. Colonel Ryu Gaia
    But part of the reason that you're able to handle such a large cast so well is because of the sheer length of the episodes.
    That also has to do with the fact that Script Smart makes scripts appear ridiculosly long, because it breaks the pages much sooner than most programs do. For S3 you can expect an average length for an episode to be something around 60 to 65 pages.

    And speaking of this large cast of ours, believe it or not, we've even discussed introducing a new regular at some point. Maybe Season Four; assuming there'll be a Season Four. Our insanity has no boundries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Rubit
    The biosphere was established back in "The Enoly," and it has nothing to do with a Death Star. For one it's much bigger, and it's not even round.
    But then it wasn't a threat. Anyway, I know what your saying and I havent accused you of always ripping things off, on the contrary, I just said this is the first time this season that I noticed such a similarity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elite Anubis Guard
    But then it wasn't a threat. Anyway, I know what your saying and I havent accused you of always ripping things off, on the contrary, I just said this is the first time this season that I noticed such a similarity.
    Okay, that's fair enough. I just wanted to make it clear that a similarity doesn't mean that it was intentional (if it had been we'd have included some kind of comment from one of the characters ).

    Anyway, it's taken a while, but the episode is now up on the website. It's great to see the entire season up there; it has a feeling of completion to it.
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    Hey 2 questions: How come we didnt get to see the asgard in Revolution Don't they us a favor or three for kicking replicator butt and in season 3 will we see maybe i dont know an Aurora-Class warship i think we could use one of those.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lt.Colonel John Sheppard
    Hey 2 questions: How come we didnt get to see the asgard in Revolution Don't they us a favor or three for kicking replicator butt and in season 3 will we see maybe i dont know an Aurora-Class warship i think we could use one of those.
    The answer to the first question: we talked about that, and for some time we were planning to include the Asgard. Eventually we decided against it, as it would have just made the episode even longer. The official reason for the Asgard not being there is that Earth wasn't able to reach them on time.

    The answer to the second question: Not sure about the Aurora class warship; but just because it's too early to tell. So for now it'll have to be a "maybe."

    However, chances are pretty good that we will be seeing the Asgard in Season Three.
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    okay then hey when you guys were first starting out there was an episode Titled "The War" it was suppose to be in the back half of season 1 i was wondering since i dont know what happened to it that could be the season 3 3-part titled well at least on of the three parts that is the opener and whatever happened to that episode i remember the enoly took it place.

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    I might be wrong, but didn't you guys promise us some CG images in the script?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lt.Colonel John Sheppard
    okay then hey when you guys were first starting out there was an episode Titled "The War" it was suppose to be in the back half of season 1 i was wondering since i dont know what happened to it that could be the season 3 3-part titled well at least on of the three parts that is the opener and whatever happened to that episode i remember the enoly took it place.
    "The War" was a stand-alone concept that we didn't get around doing so far. Perhaps we still will be doing it one day. The story has nothing to do with what will be happening in the Season Three opening three parter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mentalmichael
    I might be wrong, but didn't you guys promise us some CG images in the script?
    There was supposed to be a CG image of the Enoly space station, but it didn't get finished on time unfortunately. There is some concept art, however, that we'll be releasing as soon as possible.
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    And in typical SG1 style, our ship gets blown up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elite Anubis Guard
    And in typical SG1 style, our ship gets blown up.
    Or Atlantis, of course.

    Fantastic episode. Fantastic.
    Loved the space-battle scene, although it was fairly similar to Return of the Jedi. (maybe it was sub-conscious)
    Interesting that Sivok wanted the bio-sphere...
    The ending was very good - that would be such a cool shot if it was an actual show.

    Poor Lenori - it'll be interesting to see if Marcai ends up like Kardos. There could be some great scenes between them. Wasn't very keen on the cure from "Parti Pris" saving him though - seems a bit random that a cure for a disease could help him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naonak View Post
    Or Atlantis, of course.

    Fantastic episode. Fantastic.
    Loved the space-battle scene, although it was fairly similar to Return of the Jedi. (maybe it was sub-conscious)
    Return of the Jedi? Hmm. Sounds familiar, but I can't quite place it.

    Just kidding, by the way.

    Interesting that Sivok wanted the bio-sphere...
    That guy just can't be trusted.

    The ending was very good - that would be such a cool shot if it was an actual show.
    I agree. Interesting little note, we didn't know for sure how we were going to end it until about two weeks prior to the episode's release. We were considering various possiblities for what the final scene and shot could be; one would have lead to an interesting arc for Lenori in Season Three. But ultimately we decided against that, because it would have been difficult to make that completely plausible.

    Poor Lenori - it'll be interesting to see if Marcai ends up like Kardos. There could be some great scenes between them. Wasn't very keen on the cure from "Parti Pris" saving him though - seems a bit random that a cure for a disease could help him.
    In any other case I'd agree. However, in this case it's important to note that the virus from "Parti Pris" and Lenori without a symbiote result in the same symptoms. Basically the imune system shuts down (it's one of the symptoms of the virus, anyway). The cure is designed to act against that. So I don't think it's too far fetched that the cure would work for Lenori as well.

    Glad you enjoyed the episode, by the way. I hope you'll stick around for Season Three. I dare say we've got some interesting things coming up.
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    Pretty good finale, the Star Wars feel has been mentioned a couple of times and I think this was different enough.

    Great action in space, though at times it felt like Grant and the rest of the team were rather uninvolved since they spent such a long time in the cells.

    The characterisation was good, particularly Sivok, we never can be too sure exactly what he'll do next.

    The two storylines were balanced brilliantly, and really tied up the season nicely while taking us in the right direction for the next season.

    One point that irked was Lenori being cured by the antidote to a virus, that really didn't make any sense whatsoever. It seemed that Tretonin, or some variant of it would have been more plausible.

    A good episode though, and leaves me eager to get started on S3
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    Quote Originally Posted by cheese View Post
    Pretty good finale, the Star Wars feel has been mentioned a couple of times and I think this was different enough.

    Great action in space, though at times it felt like Grant and the rest of the team were rather uninvolved since they spent such a long time in the cells.

    The characterisation was good, particularly Sivok, we never can be too sure exactly what he'll do next.

    The two storylines were balanced brilliantly, and really tied up the season nicely while taking us in the right direction for the next season.

    One point that irked was Lenori being cured by the antidote to a virus, that really didn't make any sense whatsoever. It seemed that Tretonin, or some variant of it would have been more plausible.

    A good episode though, and leaves me eager to get started on S3
    Thanks, I'm glad you liked it.

    I do feel the same way regaring Grant and the team, to be honest. Overall I was pretty happy with how this episode turned out, but I did feel that the team could have been a little more involved. But that's okay.

    Regarding the cure for the virus working to save Lenori's life, I think this was mentioned somewhere on here too. Basically the virus from "Parti Pris" had symptoms very similar to what Lenori was experiencing -- the immune system shutting down. So it was felt that it wasn't too far a stretch to have it also work in this regard.

    I can't wait to see what your thoughts are on Season Three. Looks like you're almost caught up now.
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    I think at the time, it was said that they didn't want to use Tritonin because they wanted to distance themselves from SG-1 tech as much as possible.

    Personally I think Tritonin would have been better in both cases (this ep and Patri Pris) but its only really a minor detail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alchemist View Post
    I think at the time, it was said that they didn't want to use Tritonin because they wanted to distance themselves from SG-1 tech as much as possible.
    I don't think there was ever any conscious effort to distance ourselves from SG-1 technology. But it's possible I might be forgetting something here.

    Personally I think Tritonin would have been better in both cases (this ep and Patri Pris) but its only really a minor detail.
    If we had just used Tritonin in "Parti Pris," then there would have been no episode. Everyone would have been cured by act two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Rubit View Post
    If we had just used Tritonin in "Parti Pris," then there would have been no episode. Everyone would have been cured by act two.
    lol
    I hadn't thought about it that way

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    I just might have to cry after watching this episode. I think this has been the best episode to date. Let’s start with Callen story since it didn’t have much to do with the Enloy. When isn’t the Nebulan mysterious? It seems like they want the civil war to happen. I wonder what the bigger picture is they see. Whatever it is, I have a feeling that the book is going to have a lasting impact on S3. The whole Enloy biosphere was spectacular. I thought that Grant’s team was going to be captured but I did not think that David and Sivok were going to be captured also. You think that shooting the power core would have more of a lasting impact on him physically.?* The space battle between the Milky Way fleet and the Enloy sounded spectacular. We were holding our own until the Enloy decided to fire the biosphere’s main weapon.?* Someone said that they thought the solution to destroying the biosphere was rushed. I respectfully disagree. It makes sense that a “super weapon” would use a lot of energy and would require time to recharge. Adding a collision with a ship would severely weaken the weapons system. The biosphere is without a doubt a powerful weapons but it is not invincible.?* For once the day was saved without the Horizon crew. It was up the fleet to save the crew and the galaxy.?* I should back up and talk about characters for a second. This has easily brought a change to the Lenori character. He was physically and mentally abused.?* He must feel a little alone without his symbiont. I hope that is explored more in S3. I am going to miss you David.?* I hope Gorlon is not killed off for good because I thought he made an excellent nemesis for Grant. Even though the Enloy are weakened there is a greater threat for the civil war is in full swing. I wonder if the Horizon crew will have to be disbanded because Earth will not get involved in the Vorian war. I am curious to see how the war will develop in the next season, especially considering that the Kir’Adhari are posed to attack Horizon. 5/5 (I don’t give 5/5 that often) Now that I done with season two I have to say it has been enjoyable. There have been some bad episodes (Connection), but on the whole it has been an interesting season. My biggest compliant is that the Draque were seriously downgraded this season. See you in the season 3 folder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jelgate View Post
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    I just might have to cry after watching this episode. I think this has been the best episode to date.
    Thanks. I'm really glad you enjoyed the episode and Season Two as a whole.
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