Page 1 of 6 1 234 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 109

Thread: They should fill the rail gun shells with acid when fighting the wraith

  1. #1
    Major Puddle-Jumper's Avatar
    Member Since
    Feb 2006
    Location
    The TARDIS... Also UCC...
    Posts
    2,353

    Earth Symbol They should fill the rail gun shells with acid when fighting the wraith

    Well they should if they filled the shells with some kind of really strong acid then they might cause it to seep through the hull or some wires or some thing

    So any thoughts??
    I dunno what to put in here now..

  2. #2
    Lieutenant Colonel ussrelativity's Avatar
    Member Since
    Jan 2006
    Location
    Lemuria
    Posts
    4,056

    Default Re: They should fill the rail gun shells with acid when fighting the wraith

    With acidic weaponry, it may be possible to damage the Wraith enough to the point where they can't regenerate the sheer damage. I do believe that the weapons bust be fired at close range, though.

  3. #3
    Lieutenant Colonel IcyNeko's Avatar
    Member Since
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Asgard Mothership "Yggdrassil"
    Posts
    3,074

    Default Re: They should fill the rail gun shells with acid when fighting the wraith

    .... *sigh* You kids...

    Acid doesn't work on all things. It's also easy to neutralize (especially in organic surfaces). So this method FAILS.

    Most rounds are depleted uranium, which means it's radioactive. Radiation affects things much more profoundly than your "acid". It will radiate things through the hull. It does an area effect. Depleted uranium also punches through more armor than an acid round, and is much more stable. Acid rounds are prone to explosion before deployment.

  4. #4
    First Lieutenant Chutzpah's Avatar
    Member Since
    Sep 2005
    Location
    New Zealand
    Posts
    975

    Default Re: They should fill the rail gun shells with acid when fighting the wraith

    Now, I know very little in the field of Space weaponry and fighting, but wouldn't acid be pretty ineffective in space? I would imagine it would freeze as soon as it was exposed to space.

    I said 'space' too often.
    An all new Stargate spinoff presents

    Stargate: The B Team

    http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f4...zpah/MySig.jpg

    The galaxy just got a whoooole lot crazier!

  5. #5

    Default Re: They should fill the rail gun shells with acid when fighting the wraith

    Well, seeing as physical weaponary seems to have very little, if no, effect upon the Wraith, I'd go for Bio-chemicalwarfare... Humane, No, Effective, Yes.

    They had it going with the Retrovirus until they were betrayed... They should continue with the project... Maybe some kind of Disease/chemical targeted at The Living Wraith Ships, they could be suseptibal to Bio-Chem attack...

  6. #6
    Captain Exiled Master's Avatar
    Member Since
    Nov 2005
    Location
    Colbert Nation
    Posts
    1,259

    Default Re: They should fill the rail gun shells with acid when fighting the wraith

    Quote Originally Posted by Puddle-Jumper
    Well they should if they filled the shells with some kind of really strong acid then they might cause it to seep through the hull or some wires or some thing

    So any thoughts??
    If you fought at sea or in some other wet enviroment, then acids and bases would be quite effective. That's because acids and bases break up water molecules.
    If you were to use chemicals on the Wraith themselves, I suggest using a base, not an acid. A human will immediately notice if a powerful acid comes in contact with skin. This is not the case with bases. Bases do not trigger a pain response like acids. So it could be several minutes before you notice the burns created on your skin, or you feel the pain of the base reaching a nerve bundle. So unless the iratus bug reacts to bases, using the liquids would be an interesting weapons possiblity.
    Acids and bases would be useful on a boarding craft, as any radiation short of an energy weapon in intensity (amplitude) would not be fast enough. I wonder how ionizing radiation would affect acids and bases in dissolving the target?
    Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering-Yoda
    The more bizzare a thing, the less mysterious it proves to be-Sherlock Holmes
    I reject your reality and substitute my own-Adam Savage
    A person is smart. People are stupid, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it-Agent Kay
    That is the exploration that awaits you�not mapping stars and studying nebulae, but charting the unknown possibilities of existence-Q
    Church: I learned a very valuable lesson in my travels, Tucker. No matter how bad things might seem...
    Caboose: They could be worse?
    Church: Nope, no matter how bad they seem, they can't be any better, and they can't be any worse, because that's the way things f***ing are, and you better get used to it Nancy. Quit-yer-b****ing.

    If you smoke, you choke. If you choke, you're dead. 'Nuff said.

  7. #7
    Jungle Pharaoh Atem's Avatar
    Member Since
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Chicago
    Posts
    19,736

    Default Re: They should fill the rail gun shells with acid when fighting the wraith

    Quote Originally Posted by Puddle-Jumper
    Well they should if they filled the shells with some kind of really strong acid then they might cause it to seep through the hull or some wires or some thing

    So any thoughts??
    salt water bullets

  8. #8

    Default Re: They should fill the rail gun shells with acid when fighting the wraith

    Quote Originally Posted by Exiled Master
    If you fought at sea or in some other wet enviroment, then acids and bases would be quite effective. That's because acids and bases break up water molecules.
    If you were to use chemicals on the Wraith themselves, I suggest using a base, not an acid. A human will immediately notice if a powerful acid comes in contact with skin. This is not the case with bases. Bases do not trigger a pain response like acids. So it could be several minutes before you notice the burns created on your skin, or you feel the pain of the base reaching a nerve bundle. So unless the iratus bug reacts to bases, using the liquids would be an interesting weapons possiblity.
    Acids and bases would be useful on a boarding craft, as any radiation short of an energy weapon in intensity (amplitude) would not be fast enough. I wonder how ionizing radiation would affect acids and bases in dissolving the target?
    Acids and bases in a sea would be useless! They would dilute to minute concentrations.

    And bases melt your skin off -- which definately initiates a pain reaction. Ever spill 12M NaOH on your hand?

  9. #9
    Captain Exiled Master's Avatar
    Member Since
    Nov 2005
    Location
    Colbert Nation
    Posts
    1,259

    Sam Re: They should fill the rail gun shells with acid when fighting the wraith

    Quote Originally Posted by ddovala
    Acids and bases in a sea would be useless! They would dilute to minute concentrations.

    And bases melt your skin off -- which definately initiates a pain reaction. Ever spill 12M NaOH on your hand?
    I didn't say it doesn't incite a reaction, it just takes longer, a pants-on-fire sort of thing. As for the wet enviroments: I went to the extreme for conditions to cause a reaction. Humidity would do nicely. But I can think of an application for bases in ocean warfare. Mines that convert saltwater into NaOH. Dissolved Na in the salt is separted from the water and combined with OH made with a water decomposing enzyme. Oh, and does ethanol react explosively with chlorine like it does with gasoline?
    Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering-Yoda
    The more bizzare a thing, the less mysterious it proves to be-Sherlock Holmes
    I reject your reality and substitute my own-Adam Savage
    A person is smart. People are stupid, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it-Agent Kay
    That is the exploration that awaits you�not mapping stars and studying nebulae, but charting the unknown possibilities of existence-Q
    Church: I learned a very valuable lesson in my travels, Tucker. No matter how bad things might seem...
    Caboose: They could be worse?
    Church: Nope, no matter how bad they seem, they can't be any better, and they can't be any worse, because that's the way things f***ing are, and you better get used to it Nancy. Quit-yer-b****ing.

    If you smoke, you choke. If you choke, you're dead. 'Nuff said.

  10. #10
    Major Puddle-Jumper's Avatar
    Member Since
    Feb 2006
    Location
    The TARDIS... Also UCC...
    Posts
    2,353

    Default Re: They should fill the rail gun shells with acid when fighting the wraith

    Quote Originally Posted by IcyNeko
    .... *sigh* You kids...

    Acid doesn't work on all things. It's also easy to neutralize (especially in organic surfaces). So this method FAILS.

    Most rounds are depleted uranium, which means it's radioactive. Radiation affects things much more profoundly than your "acid". It will radiate things through the hull. It does an area effect. Depleted uranium also punches through more armor than an acid round, and is much more stable. Acid rounds are prone to explosion before deployment.
    .......*Sigh* you Senior Citizens.........

    Sure acid is easy to nutralise but who says that the wraith have advanced chemical labs on board their hives equipped with the large amounts of chemicals needed and even if they did how would they get them in to areas which will be no doubt decompressed due to a big hole in the hull caused by acid???

    At the very least acid could be placed on the hull and it could slowly burn away and perphaps cause a hull breach whilst in hyperdrive or something like that

    But space being so cold might be a problem....But since the hives are organic they might be warm to the touch

    By acid I just mean a corrosive substance which can be acid or base!
    I dunno what to put in here now..

  11. #11
    Major Prior_of_the_Ori's Avatar
    Member Since
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Anywhere I am called to serve
    Posts
    2,697

    Default Re: They should fill the rail gun shells with acid when fighting the wraith

    Who is to say that the Wraiths dont have chemical labs? Who is to say that the organic hulls were created to counter such tactics? I mean it is organic technology that must survive stellar radiation, the vacuum of space and the burning heat if they reenter an atmosphere so its entirely possible that ships are capable of surviving such a thing with no diminishment in performance.


    'Hallowed are the children of the Ori. CROWD: Hallowed are we. Hallowed are the Ori.' -

    'Great holy armies shall be gathered and trained to fight all who embrace evil. In the name of the Gods, ships shall be built to carry the warriors out among the stars and we will spread Origin to all the unbelievers. The power of the Ori will be felt far and wide and the wicked shall be vanquished' -


    Contribute to the Stargate Wiki a source for any information on the Stargate universe from the books, RPG to games and comics.

  12. #12
    Major Puddle-Jumper's Avatar
    Member Since
    Feb 2006
    Location
    The TARDIS... Also UCC...
    Posts
    2,353

    Default Re: They should fill the rail gun shells with acid when fighting the wraith

    Quote Originally Posted by Prior_of_the_Ori
    Who is to say that the Wraiths dont have chemical labs? Who is to say that the organic hulls were created to counter such tactics? I mean it is organic technology that must survive stellar radiation, the vacuum of space and the burning heat if they reenter an atmosphere so its entirely possible that ships are capable of surviving such a thing with no diminishment in performance.

    Thats a goods point!!
    I dunno what to put in here now..

  13. #13
    Major Syera's Avatar
    Member Since
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Somewhere in the Big Prickle-Patch called the West
    Posts
    2,476

    Default Re: They should fill the rail gun shells with acid when fighting the wraith

    Myself, I'd consider looking into a variation of the bacteria that causes strep throat and see if that could be made to take down Wraith ships - certainly not as something that'd take the ship down right away, but something that would give it a nasty, debilitating staph infection.

  14. #14
    Lieutenant Colonel freyr's mother's Avatar
    Member Since
    Jul 2005
    Location
    UMass
    Posts
    4,526

    Default Re: They should fill the rail gun shells with acid when fighting the wraith

    How about replicator spray. That stuff can eat through anything. Just ask the asgard for the chemical formula of the spray and then have them show us how to synthesize it and store it.

    Best Stargate quote:
    Sheppard: (yells to McKay) Canadian football is a joke! Celine Dion is overrated! Zelenka is smarter than you are!
    Green is your friend.

  15. #15
    Second Lieutenant kefke20's Avatar
    Member Since
    Jan 2006
    Location
    netherlands, de efteling
    Posts
    368

    Default Re: They should fill the rail gun shells with acid when fighting the wraith

    Quote Originally Posted by Exiled Master
    But I can think of an application for bases in ocean warfare. Mines that convert saltwater into NaOH. Dissolved Na in the salt is separted from the water and combined with OH made with a water decomposing enzyme. Oh, and does ethanol react explosively with chlorine like it does with gasoline?
    it is not posebel NaCl will split in 2 ions Na+ and Cl- if the Na+ react wit the water (H2O =balanst= H3O+ + OH-) to NaOH
    1. you can never get a cons to do enythine the osians are to vast
    2. watte hell dos NaOH do whit steel!!!!!!!!!!!!! to react iron you need a acid not a loog.

    and no ethanol react explosisvely ore im very lucky that im still alive

  16. #16
    Second Lieutenant kefke20's Avatar
    Member Since
    Jan 2006
    Location
    netherlands, de efteling
    Posts
    368

    Default Re: They should fill the rail gun shells with acid when fighting the wraith

    Quote Originally Posted by Syera
    Myself, I'd consider looking into a variation of the bacteria that causes strep throat and see if that could be made to take down Wraith ships - certainly not as something that'd take the ship down right away, but something that would give it a nasty, debilitating staph infection.
    a bact do not do enything in space to cold for het enzyms to work there
    if you can infect the hull hit a m.o you need to waith till it gos in a amosfeer
    whit a nice temp. i think the ship will have a imunsystem to combat that.
    Last edited by kefke20; May 20th, 2006 at 02:34 PM.

  17. #17
    Captain The Ori's Avatar
    Member Since
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Morena Baccarin
    Posts
    1,738

    Default Re: They should fill the rail gun shells with acid when fighting the wraith

    Quote Originally Posted by IcyNeko
    .... *sigh* You kids...

    Acid doesn't work on all things. It's also easy to neutralize (especially in organic surfaces). So this method FAILS.

    Most rounds are depleted uranium, which means it's radioactive. Radiation affects things much more profoundly than your "acid". It will radiate things through the hull. It does an area effect. Depleted uranium also punches through more armor than an acid round, and is much more stable. Acid rounds are prone to explosion before deployment.
    True, but radiation could make the wraith even more powerful if.. TPTB... say ...so..
    I HATE SY-FY

  18. #18

    Default Re: They should fill the rail gun shells with acid when fighting the wraith

    Quote Originally Posted by The Ori
    True, but radiation could make the wraith even more powerful if.. TPTB... say ...so..
    SpiderWraith,
    SpiderWraith,
    Radioactive SpiderWraith,
    Looks Like A Spider,
    Actually a Wraith,
    Radioactive SpiderWraith...
    *Electric Guitar Solo*...

  19. #19
    Second Lieutenant kefke20's Avatar
    Member Since
    Jan 2006
    Location
    netherlands, de efteling
    Posts
    368

    Default Re: They should fill the rail gun shells with acid when fighting the wraith

    Quote Originally Posted by The Ori
    True, but radiation could make the wraith even more powerful if.. TPTB... say ...so..
    lol

    but the radiation will mutat the wraith DNA
    so the proteen sythese will be efectet (whit hummans the end resolt cancer is)
    but wat the hailing power of the wraith will do is onknow.

  20. #20
    Chief Master Sergeant carcatcher's Avatar
    Member Since
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Oshawa, Ontario, Canada
    Posts
    108

    Default Re: They should fill the rail gun shells with acid when fighting the wraith

    I don't think that a shell built to carry a liquid could withstand the extreme acceleration of being launched from a gun, and if it could it might be able to survive the impact as well, making it useless.

    Just my opinion.

Similar Threads

  1. fill me in
    By claires in forum LOST
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: February 6th, 2006, 06:55 AM
  2. Need help fighting Wraith
    By Deano in forum Off-Topic Chatter
    Replies: 35
    Last Post: January 7th, 2006, 01:05 PM
  3. The Rail Gun Questions
    By !Dorentus! in forum SG-1 Science and Tech
    Replies: 54
    Last Post: September 1st, 2005, 04:22 PM
  4. Fighting wont defeat the wraith
    By hades in forum SGA General Discussion
    Replies: 37
    Last Post: July 14th, 2005, 03:51 PM
  5. are the Wraith going to start fighting eacher(spoilers for the gift)
    By lord-anubis in forum SGA General Discussion
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: March 20th, 2005, 07:18 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •