Just how fast are the Asgard hypdrives on the Daedalus?

[Seastallion]

As far as I know, there have never been any specific references to just how fast the hyperdrive on the Daedalus is, beyond knowing that it can reach the Pegasus Galaxy in 18 days, or 3 weeks. IF we were to assume that the Pegasus Galaxy were about 3,000,000 Light Years from Earth we CAN get a rough idea of just how fast the Daedalus is (without a ZPM boosting its engines).

I came up with a 'C' duplication chart, that approximates speed, based on the amount of power available to the hyperdrive. How much power is required to reach maximum speed, I didn't bother to try and figure out. I just assume that the Daeadalus is capable of generating whatever power is necessary to reach its speed. Given the numerical information stated above, I started the speed chart at how long it would take to cross a distance of 10 LY's. As I said, this is a chart where the speed doubles everytime a specific increment of energy is added to the hyperdrive. It may not work like this at all in the Stargate universe, but we haven't heard otherwise up till now, so here it is...

Time to cross 10 Light Years

C Factor 1) 1c = 10 Years
C Factor 2) 2c = 5 Years
C Factor 3) 4c = 2.5 Years
C Factor 4) 8c = 15 Months
C Factor 5) 16c = 7.5 Months
C Factor 6) 32c = 3 Months, 3 Weeks
C Factor 7) 64c = 8 Weeks
C Factor 8) 128c = 4 Weeks
C Factor 9) 256c = 2 Weeks
C Factor 10) 512c = 1 Week
C Factor 11) 1,024c = 3.5 Days *(This is near the maximum speed of the Enterprise on Star Trek)
C Factor 12) 2,048c = 1 Day, 18 Hours
C Factor 13) 4,096c = 21 Hours
C Factor 14) 8,192c = 10 Hours, 30 Minues
C Factor 15) 16,384c = 5 Hrs, 15 Min
C Factor 16) 32,768c = 2 Hrs, 37 Min
C Factor 17) 65,536c = 1 Hour, 18 Min
C Factor 18) 131,072c = 39 Minutes
C Factor 19) 262,144c = 19 Min
***C Factor 20) 524,288c = 10 Min
C Factor 20 at 100 LY's = 1 Hour, 40 Minutes
C Factor 20 at 1,000 LY's = 17 Hours
C Factor 20 at 10,000 LY's = 1 Week, 2 Hrs
C Factor 20 at 100,000 LY's = 10 Weeks, 20 Hrs
C Factor 20 at 1,000,000 LY's = 2 Years
********************-- Continuing with the 10 LY chart
C Factor 21) = 1,048,576c = 5 Minutes
C Factor 22) = 2,097,152c = 2.5 Minutes
C Factor 23) = 4,194,304c = 1 Min, 15 Seconds
C Factor 24) = 8,388,604c = 37 Seconds
***C Factor 25) = 16,777,208 = 18 Sec
C Factor 25 at 100 LY's = 3 Minutes
C Factor 25 at 1,000 LY's = 30 Minutes
C Factor 25 at 10,000 LY's = 5 Hours
C Factor 25 at 100,000 LY's = 2 Days, 2 Hrs
C Factor 25 at 1,000,000 LY's = 21 Days, 16 Hours
************--The rest of the chart is time to cross 1,000,000 LY's
C Factor 26) 33,554,416c = 10 Days, 4 Hrs
C Factor 27) 67,108,832c = 5 Days, 2 Hrs **(I estimate that this is the cruising speed of the Daedalus to reach the Pegasus Galaxy, in roughly 3 weeks, if Pegasus is indeed about 3 Million LY's away. Note that the figure is 67,108,832 x's the speed of Light..! )
C Factor 28) 134,217,664c = 2 Days, 13 Hrs
C Factor 29) 268,435,328c = 1 Day, 6.5 Hrs. **(This is the estimated speed of the Daedalus when boosted by a single ZPM, to the Pegasus Galaxy)

...and one final calculation... C Factor 30) 536,870,656c = 15 Hrs, 15 Min

I think the chart is simple enough that you could continue further calculations yourself. You simply need to increase your C Factor by one, and then double your speed times 'c'.

... Well, what do you think? Are my calculations even close? Way off? Dead on? Or if you can make a speed chart of your own that is better... Go for it..!!!! When compared to the Star Trek speed chart, this shows that the Daedalus would leave the Enterprise in the dust...

Daedalus Max Speed (w/o a ZPM) = 67,108,832 times the speed of light.
Enterprise Max Speed (warp 9.2) = 1,649 times the speed of light.

Yowser..! ...now if only the Daeadalus had the Enterprise's weapons...

[Hawaii_Boy_808]

I say your calculation was very close.

I came up with this equation to slove the problem. t=l/2^(x-1)
t= time, l= distances in light years and x= factor. Since we know what t and l is put that in and solve for x. (18/365)=3000000/2^(x-1) and we get x as 26.8583587223704 factor. So your be traveling 60833333.333333439445 faster than light.

[Seastallion]

Since the galaxy is about 100,000 Light Years across, that means that an Earthship can reach virtually any point in the galaxy within 12 Hours, 30 Minutes, at maximum speed. In "The Scourge", we know that the Gamma site is 24,000 LY's away. This means that the Odyssey should've been able to reach the Gamma site in about 3 hours time. Of course, that is assuming that they are flying a relatively straight line. It could very well be, that within a galaxy, you may need to take several shorter jumps, instead of one long one, because of stellar phenomena, like black holes, neutron stars, and other celestial bodies. There may be a certain danger in flying too close to them, as we saw in "Memento" where the Prometheus flew too close to a stellar body, and it ended up causing an overload in the power buffer. In that particular case, it was a particularly hazardous area, although it seems that most stars and other celestial bodies are generally inconsequential to hyperspace travel. For instance, if the SGC wanted to send a ship directly across the other side of the galaxy, the ship would not be able to fly on a direct course. It would have to travel around the galactic core because of the massive gravitational instabilities that occur there. The core is essentially made up of black holes and very ancient stars. There are also areas outside of the core that would need to be avoided. So speed alone is not enough to navigate the galaxy, even in hyperspace. You really do need to plot your course before hand, and hope you don't get too close to any very dangerous stellar phenomena. I would imagine that the Asgard sensors Earth has been given probably includes the ability to detect such things before it is too late to avoid them. Hopefully...

Ah... the hazards of spaceflight... do they never cease?

[Auralis]

And now take a look at the asgard, 8 minutes from ida to earth.
And ida is suggested to be 4 million lightyears away.
Why 4 million?
SG-1 5x01 enemies, aphohisis ship gets attackted by a replicator ship, which according to the asgard are in their home galaxy, but not another at the time of that episode.

[Bragi]

Um.......

They're fast.

Leave it at that.

[Neutschi]

Um.......

They're fast.

Leave it at that.

I like that

[Bthazor]

The real Pegasus galaxy KKH 99 is 775 +/- 35 kpc (kiloparsecs) from earth

775,000 pc * 3.26156378 lr/pc ~ 2,527,711 lr

I've always assumed Ida to be closer than Pegasus (mainly due to Jack's ability to contact Ida with his rigged ZPMonthecheap) but still even if we are talking 1e6 lrs in 4-8 minutes that is some serious speed.

Bragi, maybe its just cause I'm new here, I don't want to cause a ruckus, but isn't the whole point to the science and tech section to discuss these crazy ideas, and not just "leave it at that"?

[ancientaction]

the GPM was only ment for one time use, and short at that.

but the asgard hyperdrives are fast, just that.

[Seastallion]

The real Pegasus galaxy KKH 99 is 775 +/- 35 kpc (kiloparsecs) from earth

775,000 pc * 3.26156378 lr/pc ~ 2,527,711 lr

I've always assumed Ida to be closer than Pegasus (mainly due to Jack's ability to contact Ida with his rigged ZPMonthecheap) but still even if we are talking 1e6 lrs in 4-8 minutes that is some serious speed.

Bragi, maybe its just cause I'm new here, I don't want to cause a ruckus, but isn't the whole point to the science and tech section to discuss these crazy ideas, and not just "leave it at that"?

If I'm reading your post right, it seems that 3 Million LY's is close enough to your own calculations to still be comparable. Essentially, anyone may carry the discussion as far as they choose to go. You are free to 'complicate' the matter if you like ( ), and Bragi is free to skip the minutae of speculation. I like to carry it to a point, be even I have my limits. However, I am more than interested in this topic right now to continue the speculation further.

[Bthazor]

If I'm reading your post right, it seems that 3 Million LY's is close enough to your own calculations to still be comparable. Essentially, anyone may care the discussion as far as they choose to go. You are free to 'complicate' the matter if you like ( ), and Bragi is free to skip the minutae of speculation. I like to carry it to a point, be even I have my limits. However, I am more than interested in this topic right now to continue the speculation further.

You are. I wasn't trying to invalidate your 3 million LR assumption, just trying to back it up with real world data, trying to help a brutha out

Complication is cool, especially since you guys seem to know your shi'ite.

I couldn't find any relevant real world comparison to Ida or to the Ori home galaxy. If you assume they are in the local group, could be Andromeda or Triangulum.

There was discussion of the ancient interstellar drives, I would be curious to know just how slow they are.

[Seastallion]

You are. I wasn't trying to invalidate your 3 million LR assumption, just trying to back it up with real world data, trying to help a brutha out

Complication is cool, especially since you guys seem to know your shi'ite.

I couldn't find any relevant real world comparison to Ida or to the Ori home galaxy. If you assume they are in the local group, could be Andromeda or Triangulum.

There was discussion of the ancient interstellar drives, I would be curious to know just how slow they are.

I didn't think you were. I try to do my best with what I know, and I think I do okay, but nobody knows everything. As far as the Ida and Ori galaxies are concerned, I suppose Ida could be one of the dwarf galaxies near our own, perhaps the Large Magellan Cloud galaxy. The Ori galaxy is probably waaay beyond our local galactic group. If it weren't they'd probably just fly right over using their hyperdrives. We know for certain that the Ancients had both types of hyperdrives by the time they went to the Pegasus galaxy.

[Bthazor]

Yeah I was thinking about them just flying over, but also the whole beachhead idea of being able to have an instantaneous connection to their home area would be so much more useful, no need for a forward base or anything like that.

I didn't think about the Large Cloud galaxy, yeah that could be Ida.

[NakedJehutyV2]

combine 304 hyperdrives with feddie weapons? that's jack's dream

[ancientaction]

yes to PHASERS

[deadman]

If the Asgard can travel from Ida to Earth in 8 monutes, imagine how fast the Ancients could do it.