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    Quote Originally Posted by Cherriey
    Then, of course, the copywright issues would start cropping up. That could get ugly.
    Truthfully, I'm happy with the path tptb have taken with Stargate. I think they've made it into so much more than it ever would have been with three movies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the fifth man
    Truthfully, I'm happy with the path tptb have taken with Stargate. I think they've made it into so much more than it ever would have been with three movies.
    Quite true. =0) I can't even imagine how an alien that wasn't the size of the Gua'uld could possess a human body. Then again maybe I'm just being closed-minded.

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    TPTB's Snake Goa'uld > original "Asgard-Unas love child" Goa'uld

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peoples_General
    Here's some hints at the StarGate & Independence Day connections:

    http://www.thei.aust.com/isite/cellindependence.html


    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000386/
    He directed both movies.

    http://www.mrcranky.com/movies/id4.html

    Search for:
    Independence Day StarGate
    StarGate III
    StarGate trilogy

    and you'll find some links.


    What are you talking about?
    That article shows absolutely no connection between Stargate and Indepence Day other than that the same people worked on both movies and that the idea for "Independence Day" came up when a reporter asked if the writers believed in aliens and they thought of "Ouh! We could make a movie about that!"

    A Google for "Stargate III" only brought me these links (1st 3 pages):
    NONE. Stargate II and III were either observatories, research centers, something to do with astrology or Stargate Cons!

    Googling "Stargate Trilogy" gave me almost exclusively forum posts. And an interview where Devlin was reported to still be keen on making sequels to the movie.

    One entry from TrekBBS (obviously a forum) states: "basic script of ID4 was SUPPOSED to be the last movie in their Stargate trilogy". Basically, we have nothing but random posts from forums linking them together.
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    We'll just have to capture and interrogate the guys who made the StarGate movie and Independence Day to get the truth out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peoples_General
    We'll just have to capture and interrogate the guys who made the StarGate movie and Independence Day to get the truth out.
    Fabulous plan! We should begin stalking them immediately!

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    the truth is... nothing is really original anymore

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    Quote Originally Posted by XxDark-LordxX
    the truth is... nothing is really original anymore
    So I hear. It's all the same idea being recirculated and rehashed. I hold up the Harelquin Romance novels as an example.

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    used to be said that it was posed to be SG2 but not

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    the last original thing i remember was.. well i dont remember anything... but there are many differences between the two movies.. for example the aliens, technology, form of transport, situation, and many more... only similarity is hardly noticable and most likely not intended
    "I'm still trying to understand, how you thought it was a good idea to test this device by having someone throw you off a balcony."
    "Oh, believe me that's not the first thing we tried."
    "I shot him. In the leg."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cherriey
    So I hear. It's all the same idea being recirculated and rehashed. I hold up the Harelquin Romance novels as an example.
    That's why I dont' read Harlequins. (Yes I'm a guy and I read romances on occasion)
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    I did a little checking of my own, did find this.

    IGN interview with Dean Devlin
    IGNFF: Am I correct in my understanding that you had a trilogy of films planned out for Godzilla?

    DEVLIN: No. No... We left the door open that we could do more if it was successful, but we never figured out what the next parts would be. Stargate, on the other hand, we wrote as a three-parter – and never got to do parts 2 and 3. But that's a whole other story.
    I'm wondering if anyone has simply tried contacting these guys to ask them directly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avatar28
    I did a little checking of my own, did find this.

    IGN interview with Dean Devlin


    I'm wondering if anyone has simply tried contacting these guys to ask them directly.
    It say that pretty much answers it. He clearly says that they planned to do a trilogy but didn't get to do parts 2 and 3. And interview was done in July of 2002, long after Independence Day!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xanderic
    That's why I dont' read Harlequins. (Yes I'm a guy and I read romances on occasion)
    I've only ever heard about them. The interesting fact that they were released in boxes of detergent was rather surprising though. Anyway the only time I read romances (it's really hard to find material that doesn't have some sort of romantic bend to it) is when I need a good laugh. *grin* The decisions those people make are side-splitters!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FallenAngelII
    It say that pretty much answers it. He clearly says that they planned to do a trilogy but didn't get to do parts 2 and 3. And interview was done in July of 2002, long after Independence Day!
    well they did get to do 11 seasons up untill now and 2 more for sure... so id say thats better than they hoped
    "I'm still trying to understand, how you thought it was a good idea to test this device by having someone throw you off a balcony."
    "Oh, believe me that's not the first thing we tried."
    "I shot him. In the leg."
    "I'm invulnerable."
    "Aren't you the one who's always spouting off about how proper and careful scientific procedure must be adhered to?"
    "In-vul-ner-able!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by XxDark-LordxX
    well they did get to do 11 seasons up untill now and 2 more for sure... so id say thats better than they hoped
    I don't know... I didn't think that the same people who did the movie are those that did the series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peoples_General
    Does ANYONE see a rather Goa'uld-like design or motif in this "Attacker" ship from Independence Day?

    [color=indigo]YES! I can't believe it...I watched ID4 twice yesterday, but I didn't see the similarity until you brought it up. Thanks! (I love that movie BTW.)[/indigo]
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    http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/400/400415p1.html

    Doubt it's going to happen now though.

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    I just keep on praying. Independent Day is a brilliant film defferently in my top ten of all time greates.
    And thinking about the date of that last link report. then if that indeed true, then perhaps some time next year, we might have a other independent day film.

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    Quote Originally Posted by knowles2
    I just keep on praying. Independent Day is a brilliant film defferently in my top ten of all time greates.
    And thinking about the date of that last link report. then if that indeed true, then perhaps some time next year, we might have a other independent day film.
    What fascinates me most about disaster films (and is rarely shown) is the aftermath; how is society and culture carried on/rebuilt? Unfortunately without an overhanging plot this would be classified as an anthopological (if ficitional) documentary. Drat.

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