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    Visit the Episode GuideDOCTOR WHO SERIES 27
    THE LONG GAME
    EPISODE NUMBER - 2707

    The Doctor and Rose show Adam the distant future -- Satellite 5, an orbital space station responsible for broadcasting all the world's news, and which is being controlled by a powerful alien creature.

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    Just something that caught my attention... Until a few days ago I'd only watched this episode once, maybe twice, back in July, as in my memory it was the least interesting of all 13 episodes. It aired last weekend on a Belgian network, and it was a lot more fun than I remembered. What really surprised me was Suki. I watched Bleak House on the BBC, but never realized that Anna Maxwell Martin, who played Esther, also played Suki in this episode. She looks unbelievably different!

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    hmm The Long Game. Good points ... Simon Pegg man thats a great Actor he rules and played the part of the Editor Perfectly. The Doctor Being ruthless in his protection of Time and Space through destroying Adams phone message and of course that weird bran thing was kinda cool. Jagrafess was great too.

    Bad Points... Adam, Adam ,Adam man he was soooo annoying im glad they got rid of him straight away and still with the chip in his head which some people speculated that he could be Davros in some way through this.

    Therefore I give this ep a rating of 7 out of 10 but if Adam wasnt in it id probably give it 9 or 10 out of 10.
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    Aaah, I think you're bein' to harsh on the kid, I actually quite liked him

    I'd give this a 9/10, very plot turning, good 'ol satellite 5, I just know we're gonna go back there again.

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    I guess he reminded me too much of bad Turlough when he was under the influence of the Black Guardian. Man wasnt he soo whiny ???
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    Sadly, the Long Game is a bit of a downturn. Probably the weakest episode in many ways, but it does have it's good points. Simon Pegg is slick and menacing as the Editor. The episode's Teaser is awesome with the "He's your boyfriend" bit. Eccleston does some great stuff in this story as well. Watch when he sends Rose and Adam off to explore... his face goes from manic happy to dark and mysterious in a double-heartbeat. The Mighty Jagrafess of the Holy Hadrojassic Maxarodenfoe is my favorite monster name ever.

    But there's very little actual story to it. Little plot stretched over too much time, with a weak, facile ending. Makes this ep on the weak side.

    7/10
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    This is the ONE episode that I will skip over when going on a full series marathon... a bit like Sg-1 Series one's "Emancipation". I really do not like it. For me the editor is great, but that's it. I didnt like the acting, setting or just anything about this ep to be honest. it's harsh, i know. But it's how i feel. I always find one ep in every show that I just cant stand...

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    Once Adam realized he had access to all that future tech, you could see the wheels turning.
    Got the phone, got the implant, and started transmitting data as soon as he could.
    And he was quite the manipulative one.

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    I liked Adam well enough in Dalek and was happy Rose invited him along, but Long Game made me hate, hate, HATE him. What a stupid, manipulative little weasel. I hope they DO cut open his head and perform hideous experiments on him.

    I'll agree on it being kind of a "meh" ep. And now that I've seen it twice, I don't think I need to see it again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowMaat
    I liked Adam well enough in Dalek and was happy Rose invited him along, but Long Game made me hate, hate, HATE him. What a stupid, manipulative little weasel. I hope they DO cut open his head and perform hideous experiments on him.
    I thought that made him more interesting. Then again, I liked Turlough (character from the old series...very devious).

    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowMaat
    I'll agree on it being kind of a "meh" ep. And now that I've seen it twice, I don't think I need to see it again.
    Well, most fans felt the same.

    Never mind. The next three stories are excellent.

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    I found it shocking, what Adam say, but I like the fact the Doctor did something so unexpected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deputy-Assistant-Second-Prime
    Once Adam realized he had access to all that future tech, you could see the wheels turning.
    Got the phone, got the implant, and started transmitting data as soon as he could.
    And he was quite the manipulative one.
    I think Adam saw an Opportunity and he took it. I'm not saying what he did was right, but come on don't say it wouldn't be attempting for us if we were in his shoes. Also I think Adam wants to change the world make it better and be famous for doing it.

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    I dunno. I guess what bugged me about that whole thing was the small-mindedness of it. Adam assumed his trip through time was only a temporary thing and that he'd eventually get home to collect that message- and get home within a time frame that it wouldn't be a nuisance to keep holding that message on the machine. Must be a case of different mentalities, 'cause if I got invited onto the TARDIS, I sure as hell wouldn't be planning my life for when I got home, I'd be more interested in what the next great adventure would be. There'd be time enough for reality later- AFTER all the fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fatewarns
    I think Adam saw an Opportunity and he took it. I'm not saying what he did was right, but come on don't say it wouldn't be attempting for us if we were in his shoes. Also I think Adam wants to change the world make it better and be famous for doing it.
    Well, let's review what I said.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deputy-Assistant-Second-Prime
    Once Adam realized he had access to all that future tech, you could see the wheels turning.
    Got the phone, got the implant, and started transmitting data as soon as he could.
    And he was quite the manipulative one.
    I'm looking for the part where I supposedly judged him and I don't see it
    And I certainly don't see the part where I said "It wouldn't be tempting to do what he did."
    Obviously, it was or he wouldn't have done it.

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    i don't ever remember a companion doing something, that endangered the Doctor more.
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    Just because it's never been done doesn't make it bad, and I dunno if I'd call Adam a Companion, he was more of a... guest. Rose invited him, not the Doctor. But me being me, I just wish Adam had a bit more development so that we could put what he did into better context. And yeah, I know it's a bit silly, but I tend to be obnoxious about stuff like that. I just found it very... random. I suppose it wasn't, given the desperate, groveling nature of his character in Dalek, but the abject greed and selfishness kinda caught me offguard. I could buy a "kid in a candy store" mentality, but this was more like a kid who stuffs his pockets full of samples so he can take them back to his home lab and make his OWN candy. If that makes any sense.

    Whatever. The ep is over, Adam is history in more ways than one, and there's a lot of fun coming up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowMaat
    I dunno. I guess what bugged me about that whole thing was the small-mindedness of it. Adam assumed his trip through time was only a temporary thing and that he'd eventually get home to collect that message- and get home within a time frame that it wouldn't be a nuisance to keep holding that message on the machine. Must be a case of different mentalities, 'cause if I got invited onto the TARDIS, I sure as hell wouldn't be planning my life for when I got home, I'd be more interested in what the next great adventure would be. There'd be time enough for reality later- AFTER all the fun.
    I can see where you're coming from.

    Personally, I'm the type of person who loves learning new things.
    I would have just gotten the regular chip, sat down, and learned as much as I could.
    No one with any level of intellectual curiousity would do any different.
    No one remembered anything when using the more powerful chip, so that would have been useless for my purposes.

    However, he was doing more than satisfying personal curiousity, he was planning to alter history for his personal benefit.

    Some people just have an opportunistic streak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowMaat
    Just because it's never been done doesn't make it bad, and I dunno if I'd call Adam a Companion, he was more of a... guest. Rose invited him, not the Doctor. But me being me, I just wish Adam had a bit more development so that we could put what he did into better context. And yeah, I know it's a bit silly, but I tend to be obnoxious about stuff like that. I just found it very... random. I suppose it wasn't, given the desperate, groveling nature of his character in Dalek, but the abject greed and selfishness kinda caught me offguard. I could buy a "kid in a candy store" mentality, but this was more like a kid who stuffs his pockets full of samples so he can take them back to his home lab and make his OWN candy. If that makes any sense.
    The whole point of Adam was to show not everyone has what it takes to travel with the Doctor.

    Adam was an intelligent and interesting character, but he was too opportunistic, too easily frightened, and ruined his chance to travel the universe.

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    Whatever. The ep is over, Adam is history in more ways than one, and there's a lot of fun coming up.
    IMO, the next three episodes are some of the best stories of the season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMForeman
    The Mighty Jagrafess of the Holy Hadrojassic Maxarodenfoe is my favorite monster name ever.
    It's such a British Sci-Fi name, isn't it? Ranks right up there with the Jatravartids of Viltvoodle Six...

    I found this episode...puzzling. So wait, human history wasn't progressing the way it was supposed to? Humanity was supposed to be in a different place, but the presence of this monster disrupted the course of development? How did...what...I don't...oh my head just exploded.

    And are there two Billie Pipers? She just seems to look dramatically different from episode to episode. This episode she looked quite pretty. The Dalek episode...not so much. Maybe it was the lighting or something...
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    I think the time war has had many consequinces that have others to mess with the time line
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