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    the writers couldnt let the atlantis team keep the data, otherwise the daeddy wouldnt be in so much trouble if a hive ship knocked on the door

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    Quote Originally Posted by TOA
    The last 4 episodes of season 2 were really very good even with the continuity & logic issues. Additionally Critical Mass was also excellent (my favourite this season). In all the second half of the season was pretty good, but like last year it definitely had its dog episodes - *cough* The Tower...
    Personally, I would take "The Tower" over "Critical Mass" any day of the week. "The Tower" aimed for camp and achieved camp. "Critical Mass" aimed for thought provoking drama, and fell far short of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schrodinger82
    "The Tower" aimed for camp and achieved camp. "Critical Mass" aimed for thought provoking drama, and fell far short of it.
    I thought the tower aimed for thought provoking drama and critical mass was an entertaining ep that made you think about some stuff

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    God, "Allies" was ship-city! Massive shipping material for
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    McShep, McDex, McLenka, AmaDex and even some McHerm
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    Quote Originally Posted by FallenAngelII
    God, "Allies" was ship-city! Massive shipping material for
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    McShep, McDex, McLenka, AmaDex and even some McHerm
    !
    You don't need to use spoilers in an episode thread. Now i'm a bloke, and even I noticed the Zelenka\McKay slashiness.

    What the hell is AmaDex? I might be tired, I have no idea who you are talking about.
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    I have no idea what the proper ship-names are, so I just made it up. Amagan (Teyla) and Dex (Ronon) XD.

    Yes, the McLenka was truly noticable. I'm a bloke, too, BTW . To each his/her own.

    EDIT: About Michael, he seems quite human still. He spoke to Teyla and was trying to tell her something. And then when the Queen (I assume she was the queen) fed on the humanized Wraith, he looked saddened and slightly sickened and said "I've seen enough" and left abruptly.

    He might prove useful in season 3. Maybe he will actually betray the Wraith and help Rodney and Ronon escape and defeat his own people. Maybe he will be like the Tok'ra, infiltrating the Wraith and helping us destroy them. Or he might die in the process of helping us defeat his own Hive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peoples_General
    They (TPTB) did say that there will be Wraith ships going to the Milky Way. I speculate that the Wraith will be making their appearance in the MW during the episode #4 called "Uninvited". Perhaps TPTB would change the title as its soooo obvious. ;-)
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    Why they didn't remove the computers with the wraith info from any kind of Internet or info relaying access the moment they had received the Wraith intel is beyond me.

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    Uninvited could refer to the new enemy in SG1. Or an ascended being in the SGC (again) or a virus, some creature in the SGC running around (How funky would that be, Stitch (LILO and STICH) running around the SGC with SG-1 running after him So yea - uninvited could be anything.

    As for Weir...I dont think she did it intentionally and I expect a military commander could infact make the same mistake. (I got no idea, not watched it but im nice to civilian monkeys)
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    What choice did she have? Let them disclose their existance to the rest of the Wraith? And the top minds of Earth didn't notice there was a worm in the info. How is Elizabeth, who's not a computers expert and who didn't analyze the data herself, supposed to notice it?

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    the wraith seemed prety confident about getting to earth-could rodney have accidently modified thier hyperdrive to run continuously like deadelus during his repairs?
    any other ideas on how they could be getting there? all they have is the gate adress and we still have an iris
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    First, I don't trust the wraith. Haven't seen it all, but dont' trust 'em as far as I can toss my dog (which isn't far, he's a tubby dog).

    Does anybody else think Sheppard looks darned uncomfortable in the Orion's command chair? Like it's too small and he's afraid he's going to get catapulted across the room?

    Interesting that Teyla was initially opposed to the retrovirus idea, and again, there are issues not so much of believing in ideas but in trusting in other people, as she placed her trust in Sheppard for that idea to work.

    The visuals of the wraith dart being escorted into Atlantis by 302s was cool.

    "You think you're smarter than I am" McKay to Hermoid. He'll never win against an Asgard....

    Does anybody else wonder where the Wraith get their clothes? I mean, somebody has to make them. Leather boots, etc. Sometimes they dress like rock stars. I'm just thinking... do they keep human slaves around in little sweat shops? Is there a caste system within the Wraith? Who cleans the windows? Questions, questions....

    Oh wait, a wraith female - brunette? Interesting. Most have white or pink hair.

    "Let's just say I'm worried about my grandkids" Shep to wraith lady

    The overall plot of eliminating the competition makes sense. After all, if we humans don't mind nuking each other, we shouldn't complain about the wraith eating eaach other.

    Oh wow, Beckett yelling at a wraith. The man's got guts! However, it's sorta disturbing that Beckett has transitioned from saving lives (his words to Teyla about Charin) to now practicing biological warfare is scary. It was sort of a given that the wraith turned human would get fed upon, but did like Shep's reaction, and well, Weir's stepped over her ethical boundaries. Okay, going along further, Bekcett has quibbles about the use of it, and WEir is using sedatives to sleep as it's bothering her so much. (Well, at least we get some crumbs of empathy there).

    Ah, the silliness of trying to deal with the wraith. Blackmail works so well as the humans have NOTHING to bargain with, really. Just their knowledge which won't get 'em far if they get discovered.

    Fun part. Shep saying how when he was a kid and got his first encyclopedia, he went to the letter S, and Zelenka saying "yes, I'm sure wraith sexuality is interesting." ha!

    "He was guiding me down the hall, not sucking the life out of my shoulder!. Say you're sorry!" McKay barking at Ronon after Ronon shoves wraith into wall.

    McKay suggesting he should be on the hive, but he's got a plan to beam himself out. Ah, the best laid plans. I shouldn't have looked at the spoiler pics.

    McKay patting Shep on the shoulder and leaving and Shep looking like 'huh, what was that about?"

    Shep worrying about McKay and Ronon on board the ship. Shep going out in 302.

    Okay, guess the walls in wraith ships are sticky.

    Okay, wraith ships skedaddle through hyperspace.
    The atlantis folk are ready for breakdowns with all the data they lost on inhabited planets (including earth).
    Rodney's ego has taken a hit as sure, he did it all, but he helped betray earth (not knowingly of course)
    Shep, as far as I'm concerned, attached his 302 to the hive ship and went through hyperspace with it as hey, leave no man behind, and he's not leaving two behind.

    Let's see, July is about six months away. Darn.

    Overall, last week's episode INFERNO was a lot more exciting. This one was, in some respects, somewhat transparent as at least we viewers know the wraith are totally untrustworthy. SIEGE was actually a more satisfying cliffhanger than this one; this was sorta anti-climatic.

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    Best episode ever in SGA. I really belived the wraith in that episode.

    Great, great, great episode! And now we have to wait.
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    Damm, this was a great episode. I was realy waiting for that other ship from the inferno episode to kicked in but this was not happening. I like to see the face of the raith when that Ancient warship was getting out of hyperspace in front of there noses

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    9.955555/10 (nothing is perfect )

    This is the Wraith episode that I've wanted to see ever since I watched Rising. One thing I don't get though........

    How did the Wraith know about the Aurora mission?

    other than that, this was up there with the best of season 2...I am hanging now until S3 premieres.

    They got absolutely owned...they obviously suspected that McKay et al would love to see some Wraith schematics...and the fact that they asked for them made it even less suss for the Wraith...

    The way the one Wraith casually says 'Earth' at the end, that was just too creepy...I don't know what it is, but even the sight of Wraith makes my skin crawl...

    awesome ep, definately gonna require repeated viewings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schrodinger82
    Just because there's code on your computer doesn't mean you have to execute it. Stargate is funny like that though, I guess.
    So what would be the point of the backup then? They'd backup the trojan along with the data and have the same problem. And whats to stop the trojan from executing itself?

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    Best ep. of season 2, it has to be. The none stop tension was great i love that.

    Everyone that watches stargate should definatly watch this one.

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    As I said yesterday, I don't see the Wraith making an appearance in eps 4 & 5 of SG-1. Atlantis airs at the exact same time as SG-1. So I don't see how it's humanly possibly to finish the story in the season premiere of Atlantis, yet take 4 weeks to even appear in SG-1. It simply can't happen.

    More likely 'Uninvited' is the appearance of the new enemy that SG-1 is going to face.

    It looks as though the two Hive ships are on their way to the MW, so being that they don't have the Hyperdrives to get there at great speed, then as it also looks like they haven't told other Wraith about it, so as to keep the new feeding ground to themselves. Then that makes the job a whole lot easier.

    It's very simply how to get them & take them out quickly. Sacrifice the Atlantis ZPM to 'Orion', this boots the Hyperdrive, shields & weapons, Have them go after it at full speed. They should cathc up to them in no time where they simply follow until they drop out of Hyperspace. Then take them out. Problem solved.

    From the sounds of 'No Mans Land' though, it probably will be the edge of the MW galaxy, where there will be a battle to stop them arriving. Since 'The Odyssey' will be busy with serious problems of their own.
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    Then it seems that unless has more unrevealed Daedalus class warships, then the Asgard will probably be called to give assistance. Which I hope is the case, just to see the Hive ships finally make it to the new feeding ground, then see Daedalus already waiting for it, the two Hive ships think they have easy pickings an & are about to start firing when an O'neil class warship drops out right behind Daedalus, then 'Orion' comes up from behind the Hives from the Pegasus side. See how smart they are then!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ichigo
    Best ep. of season 2, it has to be. The none stop tension was great i love that.

    Everyone that watches stargate should definatly watch this one.
    we finally got to see the main railguns, two are on the front of the flat top and one at the nose, and they were doing "some" damage Mckay and Ronan heard the impact and explosions. We also findout that the bridge is the square module behind the missile silos....

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    Very exciting episode. But why did they trust the Wraith? Ok, I don't care, finally something is happening in Stargate Atlantis, and hopefully they will continue this way in many more episodes next season.

    Edit: Ah, I wonder if the two Wraith Hive ships managed to broadcast the earth location and other information to other Hive ships? I can see the future if they didn't. Then these two Hive ships will get destroyed sooner or later, and it is all back to normal again. Stargate has been predictable. :/

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