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    Default Being a God, I have figured out why Stargate feels different to some and not the same

    20 episodes per season.

    That is, in a nutshell, the reason why Stargate feels different. 20 episodes allows for a more "season driven story arc" but it removes those 2+ extra episodes a run of 22 gives to pillow it with more content. The usual TV show season is 24 episodes, so Stargate's 22 was already cutting it by 2... and now at 20 a season it leaves you will a lot less time per season.

    With 24 episodes (or even 22), one can have a very nice season arc and still have episodes that are very single-episode driven and would deal with the idea of exploration and discovery that has sort of been lost in these sweeping arcs dealing with the Ori or even the last season dealing with Anubis.

    I really wish they would raise the season back to 22 or up it to 24.

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    Default Re: Being a God, I have figured out why Stargate feels different to some and not the

    Actual, the custom for TV shows (in the Western world) is having 22 episodes per season, which Stargate has almost always had. It's only of recent years that they've regressed to 21 and 20 episodes. I don't know of ANY show that has 24 episodes per season besides 24 and certain seasons of Will & Grace.

    No, it's customary to have 22 episodes per season, occasionally breaching it with 23.

    Even season 1 had 22 episodes if you count the series premiere as two episodes since it's a double episode, usually aired separately with separate opening- and ending sequences.

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    Default Re: Being a God, I have figured out why Stargate feels different to some and not the

    Quote Originally Posted by FallenAngelII
    No, it's customary to have 22 episodes per season, occasionally breaching it with 23.
    X-Files and ST:TNG were the only ones i know that routinely went over the 22 ep standard.

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    Default Re: Being a God, I have figured out why Stargate feels different to some and not the

    Nearly all seasons of ST: TNG, DS9 and Voyager had 26 episodes. Sure does take up space when you have them all on VHS...
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    Default Re: Being a God, I have figured out why Stargate feels different to some and not the

    ya forget 24

    and no you're not a god. you're a normal dude online with the name lord shiva.

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    Default Re: Being a God, I have figured out why Stargate feels different to some and not the

    Quote Originally Posted by NakedJehutyV2
    ya forget 24

    and no you're not a god. you're a normal dude online with the name lord shiva.
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    That'll teach ya.

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    Default Re: Being a God, I have figured out why Stargate feels different to some and not the same

    Oh sure, fans can sit back and enjoy (or not) 2 or 4 more episodes, but what about the Producers and the Writers?

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    Default Re: Being a God, I have figured out why Stargate feels different to some and not the same

    Quote Originally Posted by PG15
    Oh sure, fans can sit back and enjoy (or not) 2 or 4 more episodes, but what about the Producers and the Writers?
    When Atlantis was made did they hire any new writers? I don't think so. The same people that were once churing out 22 epidodes a season are now making 40 episodes a season. I think Stargate needs some new writers, to bring new stories and perspectives into Stargate - mabey even a female writer.

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    Default Re: Being a God, I have figured out why Stargate feels different to some and not the

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Shiva
    Jaffa - KREE!

    *watches as His Jaffa browbeat NakedJehuty*

    That'll teach ya.
    You are a funny guy, I'll give you that.
    I too miss the 22 ep season, but I guess we'll just have to adjust to 20. Do I think SG-1 feels a little different now, sure. But I mean come on, we're facing a new threat now. We're dealing with an entirely different mythology too. New castmembers have joined the fun. In this case, I don't believe different is necessarily a bad thing.

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    Default Re: Being a God, I have figured out why Stargate feels different to some and not the

    I have to point out that certian seasons of the Simpsons had 25 episodes per season (specifically seasons 6 thru 9), but they still average around 22 eps per season...

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    Default Re: Being a God, I have figured out why Stargate feels different to some and not the

    Why are you complaining at the writers for not enough episodes? Their budget was cut a couple of seasons ago, so they had to cut the number of episodes or loose some of the quality and special effects.
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    Default Re: Being a God, I have figured out why Stargate feels different to some and not the

    Quote Originally Posted by da_hippie
    Why are you complaining at the writers for not enough episodes? Their budget was cut a couple of seasons ago, so they had to cut the number of episodes or loose some of the quality and special effects.
    I believe is that they have lost episodes and quality. They lost some of their budget due to Atlantis coming along. While I personally love Atlantis, some people don't and blame it for SG-1s slight drop in quality.

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    Default Re: Being a God, I have figured out why Stargate feels different to some and not the

    Quote Originally Posted by Qtyled
    When Atlantis was made did they hire any new writers? I don't think so. The same people that were once churing out 22 epidodes a season are now making 40 episodes a season. I think Stargate needs some new writers, to bring new stories and perspectives into Stargate - mabey even a female writer.
    They did bring in newcomers, actually. Martin Gero was hired full time at the outset of Atlantis, and several outside writers contributed to it's first season as well. One of them, Carl Binder, wrote 'Before I Sleep' and 'Letters frm Pegasus', winning himself a job on the staff for the new season. Another new staff writer was added on the SG-1 side this season, Alan McCullough. He wrote 'Prototype', and penned three more episodes that will air in the back half of the season.

    Those three joined Brad Wright, Robert Cooper, Joseph Mallozzi, Paul Mullie, Damian Kindler, and Peter DeLuise on Atlantis' full time writing staff. Many of them are also producers, and DeLuise directs a lot, as well. Along with the outside writer or actor contributions, it's a large group to spread the writing load across.

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    Default Re: Being a God, I have figured out why Stargate feels different to some and not the

    I dnt feel tat SG1 has lost any quality, an two episodes is noting really, I would rather have 40 episodes across 2 shows than 22 across 1 show. I think most people feel SG1 is no longer as good as it once was for several reasons, such as:

    (S7-9)RDA not playing as big a part as in S1-6 and leaving after S8
    (S7 and S8)Entre Seasons being used to wrap up storylines
    (S9) A totally new idea that has come from almost nowhere

    BTW, us it just me or did a lot of S7 apart from the fewstand alone eps just feel like a prequel to Atlantis? (theres another reason)

    And rock on NakedJehutyV2! You tell that false god
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatcheter
    They did bring in newcomers, actually. Martin Gero was hired full time at the outset of Atlantis, and several outside writers contributed to it's first season as well. One of them, Carl Binder, wrote 'Before I Sleep' and 'Letters frm Pegasus', winning himself a job on the staff for the new season. Another new staff writer was added on the SG-1 side this season, Alan McCullough. He wrote 'Prototype', and penned three more episodes that will air in the back half of the season.

    Those three joined Brad Wright, Robert Cooper, Joseph Mallozzi, Paul Mullie, Damian Kindler, and Peter DeLuise on Atlantis' full time writing staff. Many of them are also producers, and DeLuise directs a lot, as well. Along with the outside writer or actor contributions, it's a large group to spread the writing load across.
    Thanks, I didn't know that.

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    Default Re: Being a God, I have figured out why Stargate feels different to some and not the

    Didn't Peter DeLuise stop writing to focus on directing this season? Or was it the other way around?

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    Default Re: Being a God, I have figured out why Stargate feels different to some and not the

    Yeah, there are lots of shows that have OCCASIONALLY breached the 22-episode season. But most shows still total 22 episodes. Either that or they total something much less, like, 10, 12, 14, 16, 13, I dunno.

    Certain shows have been known to on occasion go below the 22 episode mark as well.

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    Default Re: Being a God, I have figured out why Stargate feels different to some and not the

    Quote Originally Posted by PG15
    Oh sure, fans can sit back and enjoy (or not) 2 or 4 more episodes, but what about the Producers and the Writers?
    They can sit back and enjoy those 2 or 4 extra episodes, too! Possibly from my own living room, that would be nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Shiva
    Jaffa - KREE!

    *watches as His Jaffa browbeat NakedJehuty*

    That'll teach ya.

    only in your mind dude. talk about dateless thinking you're a god????


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