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    how did sheppard not manage to get caught in the crossfire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asdf1239 View Post
    how did sheppard not manage to get caught in the crossfire.
    the almighty plot shield

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    Sheppy presumed dead yet again, and saving the day, yet again. Got to love it

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    Yeah, indeed. Loved McKay on the enzyme, and the concept of human traitors who serve the Wraith is also intriguing.
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    What about they wanted to use that tention for a new strategy against the wraith?
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    Never really happened except maybe Todd joining them because of the Hoffan drug but that is why to lame.


    Not convincing that being super-human thanks to this enzyme had no serious side-effects. Yes, their rationality got affected but what about their bodies. This enzyme seems to work like adrenalin, so imagine what happens to your body if you have such high doses of it continously. The body just can't take it, it falls apart. Otherwise we would have adrenalin in our bodies all the time if we could take it.
    Also Beckett says "It strengthens the human body temporarily and ensures that the heart continues to beat." So it seems to me, it strengthens the metabolism not the muscles or reflexes. So this whole story about being super-human is just plain silly. And if the enzyme would really make you so strong, you could easily escape a feeding wraith. And I'm sure the wraiths don't want that.

    And this escaping scene with Sheppard and Ford. Come on, how long took it the male wraith to react not to mention the other drones. And isn't that supposed to be the heart of the hive, I would expect a lot more wraiths there. And the enzyme makes you stronger and more resistant than the wraiths? Aren't the wraiths the one who produce the enzyme? And sure Ford is almost dying like the others but manages to escape, get some enzyme and their weapons. That is Giga-Ford. I really hated what they did with Ford. Ford should be in the team not Ronon.

    And Shep can deceive a queen, sure he can. He just forgot he has no wraith DNA like Teyla.
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    I also thought the super human thing was a bit weird considering its intended use by the Wraith. However, Ford did say they refined it, so possibly the enzyme they were taking was more potent. I enjoyed the episode and seeing Rodney go bonkers was hilarious . I am going to miss Ford, I quite liked his character and now that his role is pretty much completed I am sad to see him go. The Wraith fighting with one another is a kin to the Goa'uld story lines where if they just worked together they would have a much easier time, but for out sake they can't get along.

    Great special effects and the clown's were a highlight of my day.

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    I loved the scene with the knives,

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    especially Ronon pulling out from all over the place. "How many do you need?


    The clowns routine also amused me.

    I love it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by maneth View Post
    Yeah, indeed. Loved McKay on the enzyme
    I loved the scene, although it cemented my belief that it just turned you into a toddler on a sugar-high.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mathpiglet View Post
    I loved the scene with the knives,

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    especially Ronon pulling out from all over the place. "How many do you need?

    That and the airport line is the best

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    But it does make me wonder, how he can do anything without cutting himself with all those knives in his hair and about his bod.

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    Watching this on the rewatch now, erm, when Mckay comes back from the planet he was held on apparently they recieve his IDC, yet no sign of his wrist thingy..

    Wraith worshipper mmmm shes hot

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    Quote Originally Posted by AutumnDream View Post
    Carl Binder wrote it. His first Atlantis script was "Aurora", which was my only "meh" episode ever, but he later on wrote classics like "Before I Sleep" and "Letters From Pegasus". I think he's shaping up to give Martin Gero some good competition!

    True, I was expecting a little more intrigue involving the mysteries of the wraith and Sheppard and Teyla's "relation" to them, but I loved the episode because

    A) I was just so happy to see a new Atlantis.
    B) It was pretty awesome anyway.
    C) Hilarious.
    D) It had some good plot stuff in it.
    E) I was overjoyed to see a new Atlantis.
    Wasn't Aurora written after season 1 episodes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trig View Post
    Watching this on the rewatch now, erm, when Mckay comes back from the planet he was held on apparently they recieve his IDC, yet no sign of his wrist thingy..

    Wraith worshipper mmmm shes hot
    Maybe he has it in a pouch rather than on the wrist.

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    Yeah maybe, lets be fair the sfx guys have been sloppy so far with IDC's coming in before we hear the woosh of the gate etc.. lol

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    From Joe Mallozzi's Blog:
    http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/...hive-epiphany/
    THE HIVE (211)

    A powerful pay-off to the intriguing Lost Boys, The Hive is Atlantis at its best – with plenty of twists and turns, great character moments, and spectacular visual effects. And, as an added bonus, we develop another aspect of wraith mythology with the wraith worshipers, humans who serve and revere the life-sucking aliens. More is made of the divisions inherent within the enemy, something Sheppard exploits at episode’s end to save a human civilization from a mass culling.

    David Hewlett, as always, is firing on all cylinders, this time delivering a performance that shows a side of Rodney we’ve never seen before – intense, overwhelmed, physically and mentally tortured. As for Ford, he goes out in a blaze of glory, redeeming himself by distracting the enemy so that his friends can make good their escape. Or does he? Sheppard thinks it very likely that their resilient comrade found a way off the hive ship before it was destroyed. I’d like to think so too, that Ford is still out there, harvesting wraith and fighting the good fight. But the fact that we don’t see the character again after this episode would suggest otherwise. Still, as we always say whenever someone gets killed off: “This is science fiction. Anything is possible!”.

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    One of the episodes of SGA I've watched more than once, if only to see McKay go even more hyper, if that's even possible?! Yes it was, can't help feeling exhausted just watching him fight the guards, as he dials the gate and arrives on Atlantis after taking the massive dose of enzyme.

    I reckon he had a whole box of 'Timbits' (really sweet, yummy flavoured icing coated donut balls, an extremely addictive Canadian thing! ) before he started filming that scene, he seems to be quite partial to them....

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    This episode also has some of the funniest lines in it for me. Sheppard and his deadpan delivery of his fear of clowns was just one of those priceless Stargate humourous moments!

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    This was an ok episode. But the ending was awesome.

    I honestly don't know if Ford died on that hive or managed to escape.

    That Shep vs the Hives battle was awesome, the high point of this one. Along with Rodney high on adrenaline, and speed talking to Weir.

    Tomorrow, possibly more Ancients.

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    A pretty good ep.

    So this is where the Wraith brought in the new look stunners. Slimmer and boring.

    Really liked the scene with the knives. Would be fun at airports indeed. And Rodney while dialling the dhd. He was so off his head. Made me laugh.

    And omg Shep and the clowns. That was hilarious.

    I liked when the Daedalus started firing on the Hive ships. The look of all those bullets flying at the Wraith was great. And when the darts started firing on each other. That was great too.



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    Looking forward to returning to Uni part time...another ep of Atlantis.

    1. Had to love McKay hyper on the enzyme!

    2. Ford had a point - even I knew Nera was dodgy first time out!

    3. Bow did a great job here - pity we never really saw Ford again.

    Very cool ep!

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    The Hive

    This second part of the two-parter serves a dual purpose; to continue the awesomeness that "The Lost Boys" provided while also proving a really satisfying conclusion to the whole thing. It also manages to take the serious subject matter and multiply it times three, providing some truly provocative stuff that rivals some of SGU. It isn't exactly portrayed in the style of that show but it does look eerily familiar to the point where some of it was the forerunner for that show alone.

    One of the many serious things the episode deals with is drug withdrawal, what happens if you aren't able to get the enzyme; the effects have not been seen before and to see what actually happens is satisfying, it's like a revelation when it comes to the drug itself. There are varying effects depending on how long you took it, it effects people in different ways and in some cases, it can even kill you. This also allows for the actors to do some pretty decent portrayals of drug withdrawal patients; it's pretty scary really, to see them convincingly convulse in shock, try to move, feel the pain, question to themselves; almost surrealistic... These characters manage to sneak our way into our hearts and make us feel for them, connect with them on a whole another level, questioning whether they'll make it or not and what truly lies in their psych realm; even someone who's taken a lot of the enzime manages to showcase the worry and unclear thinking that comes from withdrawal, even managing to reflect in a past moment in the actor's life. It's clear that SGA is going deep and it pays off in the best way possible.


    Truly going deep.

    The Wraith are as creepy as ever and truly does this episode contain some tense stuff; the hive's shown here manage to feel fresh and new; scary, claustrophobic and unknown; who knows what will lurk around any corner as we watch our heroes roam through the hive trying to escape, a guy could come out, who knows? The lighting and detailing just enhance this and the stuff they encounter, the settings they go through; just make it even more creepy. The actual Wraith they encounter with really are scary; who wouldn't want to be face to face with one of them, especially the way they grab them, play mind tricks on them, interrogate them, they're truly menacing in every way of the word... There is somewhat of a downside to this, what we do learn about the Wraith here does make them somewhat similar to the Gou'ald (because now they have worshippers) and that's irky because the Wraith aren't supposed to be like the Gou'ald; having worshippers just makes them directly similar but that's forgiven by the revelation of the territorial stuff mentioned before. It gives a new side to the Wraith, something that should prove to flesh out their dynamic in the longterm. In episode terms though, it's exciting; seeing the mindgames layed out and all trust fade away, it fits the mood of the episode so well...

    You know the action that was there in the first episode right, well it's here but there's even more of it and it's even more amped up then ever. Ford is still awesome and he manages to be even more awesome this time around, showcasing some fine choreography and kung-fu moves that ordinary people can never do in their lifetimes; the other crew do well, kicking as much butt as him and even getting into moments which are essential to the experience these episodes bring, even Rodney manages to jump into the fun when he gets all hopped up on Enzyme and becomes SuperMcKay though it's unfortunately short; you never see the crew trying to break out or even escaping in a tense environment, most of the time it just isn't there but with these types of episodes, you get to see the crew at their best; mixing in comedy, seriousness and just plain action in a way that only they can do. Not only does it appease sci-fi fans but it also shows the characters what they can truly do, what they're made of and in the most rare of cases, even grow them. These episodes are seemingly built for these characters to shine, it really showcases what the show can really do when it's given the right opportunity. I don't know how they do it but the point is, they do it and they do it well...


    A beautiful battle in space.

    There's even a space battle (which I feel are slightly responsible for Stargate's decline) that's beautiful as it is amazing; it helps that it's hectic, actually shows the behind the scenes of a culling and has those types of scenes which are short and get to the point. I do admit that no other show has managed to combine Star Trek like commanding with Star Wars like battles; seeing Sheppard pilot his ship reminded me of a montage in Star Wars Episode III, it had that energy, it had that visual flair and it had that excitement and seeing Cadwell command that ship, being the captain that he is as he thinks out his tactics and orders his commands reminds me of something that Captian Picard or Kirk would do; the fact that both manage to coexist and even contribute to the same episode is amazing in itself and possibly the thing that makes these space battles at least interesting; plus the visuals, the explosions, the stuff that's on the line and how caught up we get into these battles... We can't forget about the characters though, the brash Sheppard who manages to be sensible and romantic at times, Weir who manages to lead and care at the same time and Ford who's still friendly despite his brash attitude; every one of them manages to have flaws (acting wise) but every one of them manages to be exceptional, every one. There is no unique definitive moment amongst them (well, maybe Sheppard.) but that's a good thing because it shows that the characters are on the same page when it comes to episodes like this.

    This episode is awesome, hell; both parts are awesome! This and "The Lost Boys" are definitely the best episodes of the season and I think by far the best two parter the show has ever had. People watching this episode will be taken back by the action, the serious situations, the Wraith and those who are fans of "Lost" will even appreciate the references in the two parts (I wonder if "Lost" responded back...) Ford is awesome, the characters are in tip-top shape; what more could I say to get you to watch this episode? They say that we would see Ford again but we never do, this appears to be his last appearance in the episode. Shame (especially considering his potential) but it's still a fantastic episode.

    10/10

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