I was goofing around the net last night and stumbled across some nice fan art about other types ships that could make up colonial military fleet. Some of them are original and some of them are evolutionary, starting off as fan art or game art for TOS then converted to new BSG style. What really impressed me on some of the designs was the thought that was put into them as to how they would function in the fleet.
The first one is called a Zeus class Warstar. Its based on TOS fan art made for a game which was basically a beefed up Battlestar with two sets of engines, four landing bays and big sensor array and was to act as a command and control ship.
The new version seems to be just a strait up cruiser and has no fighter capacity of its own. At first I thought it was bit undergunned until I realized that all those launch tubes were not for fighters.
http://wolfsshipyard.mystarship.com/...es/warstar.gif
Damn thing looks like it was made to say "Frack You" to a Basestar and then back it up.
"by Alexzandyr J. The Zeus Class Warstar was designed and constructed during the third year of the Cylon War. Intended to reduce the strain on the few Battlestars, which were being stretched to thin. A Warstar's function is to provide a middle ground between the Gunstar and Battlestar. During a fleet battle a Gunstar would attack a Cylon ship with its main cannons (opening a rather large hole in its hull), and the Warstar would come in launching a salvo of nuclear devices that would usually act as the final death blow. When a Battlestar wasn't available a Warstar could easily takes its place, providing a small task force with a command and control ship."
The part about needing another ship to soften up the target seems kind of lame to me given the amount of sheer firepower of the design. About the only thing I can find against it is that I feel it should have another cluster of guns on the chin and maybe some more guns on the sides.
The next design is interesting but a little problematic. Its described as a Titan Class Escort Frigate but I tend to think of it as more of a destroyer. Its a revision of a revision and is an offshoot of the Gunstar further below.
http://wolfsshipyard.mystarship.com/...rt_Frigate.gif
"by Glenn Wagner. A heavy escort for convoys, etc… No fighters but large numbers of anti-ship rail guns and powerful engines."
Even though at first it looks like it would be a very effective anti-fighter/anti-missile screening platform I have a few issues with it. The first is the weak weapons coverage towards the front due to the side guns being blocked by front "head" section.
The second problem is that it has too many big guns for a ship its size, its going to run out of ammo before the fight is over. I would keep the rear most top and bottom sets guns but get rid of the front most three sets of guns. Instead of a pair of guns for the rear top and bottom guns make them each a single gun. Then I would put a gun on top of the nose, about where the red band is, and another on the chin.
Next, get rid of all the current side guns. Place one gun on each side near the rear, about where those two triangular shaped panels are on the sides. The final guns I would put on the left and right sides of the rear corners of the front section.
About the only other change I would make would be to switch from double barreled flack cannon to a single barreled type. Most of the defensive fire should be done by the smaller point defense guns, like the one above the Galactica's landing pods, leaving the flack cannons for the really big jobs. But that’s just me. A few of these in the rag tag fleet would have made life for the Galactica a lot easier.
Next up is the Gunstar. I like this one the best not just because of the look but because of the roles it plays. Like the Zeus Warstar this is an evolution of a TOS fan design made for a game that’s been given a major overhaul. The old version was basically an upgunned Battlestar. But this new version is smart cross between a destroyer and an escort carrier. In essence it is a mini Battlestar.
http://wolfsshipyard.mystarship.com/...es/gunstar.gif
"by Alexzandyr J. From the new Universe, designed as a smaller and more easily produced companion to the Battlestars. Heavily armed, including two large bow cannons intended to “crack” Baseships."
I don’t know what these bow cannons are, maybe a railguns running the length of ship. They may not be able to to kill Baseships individualy but I bet a small pack of them could. But even without the bow cannons I still like the design. The ship itself can act as a fighter/missel screen while its squadron of fighters go on the offence.
But like the Titan Class Escort Frigate I would thin out some of the guns and reposition the remaining. Instead of two rows of guns along the top I would just put four in strategic places along the top. Put one right in between where the rear two are now. Put the next flack cannon on top of that crest like structure. The last two would go left and right of the crest. Similarly I would reduce and redistribute the guns. I would put one directly under where that rear most is on the top. The next I would put under where that third launch tube from the rear is. The third I would put directly underneath where the name is at. And the fourth one I would put on the chin.
The last change I would make would be to get rid of the retraction system for the landing pods and have the pods be fixed and blended into the body.
Ship Number four is called a Combatstar. As far as I can tell its a completely original design.
http://wolfsshipyard.mystarship.com/...combatstar.PNG
"by Mike Brown. Intended to support Battlestars and Gunstars."
For some reason I dont like this one. Its a little too sleek and skinny for a BSG colonial design and I dont like the tail.
The last one is a revision of a TOS design made for game called a Protector.
http://wolfsshipyard.mystarship.com/...tor%5b1%5d.PNG
"by Mike Brown, based on a design by Todd Boyce of Battle Spoo. The ships is intended as a heavy cruiser and escort to Battlestars."
This is another one I dont like. And it just hit me why I dont like. It has to do with the pylon that connects the landing pod to the body. Not only is it too thin but the style is too trek like. Then it hit me that the front 2/3 of the side view looks way too much like a Star Trek Akira class.
The final ship does not have a class name and is simply refered to as the Battlestar Excalibur, and as you will see it is the Battlestar with something extra.
http://wolfsshipyard.mystarship.com/...ber%5B1%5D.PNG
"by Mike Brown An updated version of a fan design."
I kind of had hoped that the Pegasus would have been more along lines of this but oh well its proboly best thought of as an experimental.
All the artwork came off of the following site: http://wolfsshipyard.mystarship.com/BSG.html
Enjoy or ignor. I thought it made a nice what if. Oh almost forgot, using the ships from here how would you put togather a Battlestar group? And if you had to put togather a battle group without a Battlestar what would you use?
The first one is called a Zeus class Warstar. Its based on TOS fan art made for a game which was basically a beefed up Battlestar with two sets of engines, four landing bays and big sensor array and was to act as a command and control ship.
The new version seems to be just a strait up cruiser and has no fighter capacity of its own. At first I thought it was bit undergunned until I realized that all those launch tubes were not for fighters.
http://wolfsshipyard.mystarship.com/...es/warstar.gif
Damn thing looks like it was made to say "Frack You" to a Basestar and then back it up.
"by Alexzandyr J. The Zeus Class Warstar was designed and constructed during the third year of the Cylon War. Intended to reduce the strain on the few Battlestars, which were being stretched to thin. A Warstar's function is to provide a middle ground between the Gunstar and Battlestar. During a fleet battle a Gunstar would attack a Cylon ship with its main cannons (opening a rather large hole in its hull), and the Warstar would come in launching a salvo of nuclear devices that would usually act as the final death blow. When a Battlestar wasn't available a Warstar could easily takes its place, providing a small task force with a command and control ship."
The part about needing another ship to soften up the target seems kind of lame to me given the amount of sheer firepower of the design. About the only thing I can find against it is that I feel it should have another cluster of guns on the chin and maybe some more guns on the sides.
The next design is interesting but a little problematic. Its described as a Titan Class Escort Frigate but I tend to think of it as more of a destroyer. Its a revision of a revision and is an offshoot of the Gunstar further below.
http://wolfsshipyard.mystarship.com/...rt_Frigate.gif
"by Glenn Wagner. A heavy escort for convoys, etc… No fighters but large numbers of anti-ship rail guns and powerful engines."
Even though at first it looks like it would be a very effective anti-fighter/anti-missile screening platform I have a few issues with it. The first is the weak weapons coverage towards the front due to the side guns being blocked by front "head" section.
The second problem is that it has too many big guns for a ship its size, its going to run out of ammo before the fight is over. I would keep the rear most top and bottom sets guns but get rid of the front most three sets of guns. Instead of a pair of guns for the rear top and bottom guns make them each a single gun. Then I would put a gun on top of the nose, about where the red band is, and another on the chin.
Next, get rid of all the current side guns. Place one gun on each side near the rear, about where those two triangular shaped panels are on the sides. The final guns I would put on the left and right sides of the rear corners of the front section.
About the only other change I would make would be to switch from double barreled flack cannon to a single barreled type. Most of the defensive fire should be done by the smaller point defense guns, like the one above the Galactica's landing pods, leaving the flack cannons for the really big jobs. But that’s just me. A few of these in the rag tag fleet would have made life for the Galactica a lot easier.
Next up is the Gunstar. I like this one the best not just because of the look but because of the roles it plays. Like the Zeus Warstar this is an evolution of a TOS fan design made for a game that’s been given a major overhaul. The old version was basically an upgunned Battlestar. But this new version is smart cross between a destroyer and an escort carrier. In essence it is a mini Battlestar.
http://wolfsshipyard.mystarship.com/...es/gunstar.gif
"by Alexzandyr J. From the new Universe, designed as a smaller and more easily produced companion to the Battlestars. Heavily armed, including two large bow cannons intended to “crack” Baseships."
I don’t know what these bow cannons are, maybe a railguns running the length of ship. They may not be able to to kill Baseships individualy but I bet a small pack of them could. But even without the bow cannons I still like the design. The ship itself can act as a fighter/missel screen while its squadron of fighters go on the offence.
But like the Titan Class Escort Frigate I would thin out some of the guns and reposition the remaining. Instead of two rows of guns along the top I would just put four in strategic places along the top. Put one right in between where the rear two are now. Put the next flack cannon on top of that crest like structure. The last two would go left and right of the crest. Similarly I would reduce and redistribute the guns. I would put one directly under where that rear most is on the top. The next I would put under where that third launch tube from the rear is. The third I would put directly underneath where the name is at. And the fourth one I would put on the chin.
The last change I would make would be to get rid of the retraction system for the landing pods and have the pods be fixed and blended into the body.
Ship Number four is called a Combatstar. As far as I can tell its a completely original design.
http://wolfsshipyard.mystarship.com/...combatstar.PNG
"by Mike Brown. Intended to support Battlestars and Gunstars."
For some reason I dont like this one. Its a little too sleek and skinny for a BSG colonial design and I dont like the tail.
The last one is a revision of a TOS design made for game called a Protector.
http://wolfsshipyard.mystarship.com/...tor%5b1%5d.PNG
"by Mike Brown, based on a design by Todd Boyce of Battle Spoo. The ships is intended as a heavy cruiser and escort to Battlestars."
This is another one I dont like. And it just hit me why I dont like. It has to do with the pylon that connects the landing pod to the body. Not only is it too thin but the style is too trek like. Then it hit me that the front 2/3 of the side view looks way too much like a Star Trek Akira class.
The final ship does not have a class name and is simply refered to as the Battlestar Excalibur, and as you will see it is the Battlestar with something extra.
http://wolfsshipyard.mystarship.com/...ber%5B1%5D.PNG
"by Mike Brown An updated version of a fan design."
I kind of had hoped that the Pegasus would have been more along lines of this but oh well its proboly best thought of as an experimental.
All the artwork came off of the following site: http://wolfsshipyard.mystarship.com/BSG.html
Enjoy or ignor. I thought it made a nice what if. Oh almost forgot, using the ships from here how would you put togather a Battlestar group? And if you had to put togather a battle group without a Battlestar what would you use?
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