I was just wondering because Ford said he would but he did lie about everything esle so maybe he lied about that too.
Edit: Now that I think about it I don't think I've seen McKay THAT mad even in SG-1 or Duet.
I clearly am against the trend this time. I hated this episode.
Sure several of the shots were amazing, and the cliff hanger is frustrating; however, this is not SGA's best.
First off, the drug thing has been done before. 1. SG1 2. Andromeda 3. Probably every other scifi show around. It's not original.
Can we stop trusting Ford? The writers have established that he's a little unstable due to the drug. So the characters trust him? It makes me wonder if Sheppard's food really is clean. Perhaps, I'm biased. I have not been happy with the writers approach to the Ford subplot.
Ronon and Teyla wanting to stay on the drug bothers me. I get that they're addicted, but Sheppard might have pointed out that their reasoning was a bit biased. Did we really need to see Ronon drag Teyla across a table by her arm to establish that the characters high?
What is wrong with Weir? Is the food on Atlantis affecting her leadership abilities? She's in charge. If she wants a search, command a search. Don't flirt with the security guy, be useful.
While the episode was powerful, it will not be one I want to see again. The writers abused the characters and needed to end the midseason finale with a better trend.
My hope is that Sheppard or McKay will at least hit Ford in the back of the head with a very blunt object in January.
I could've sworn they said it was just a midseason 2 parter somewhere. oh well, i'll just have to wait.
I hate Martin Gero. Mr. Torture Master. LOL!
Another great Gero classic. Lots of good stuff to digest. I wonder how that enzyme is going to affect the team. Maybe this'll give Carson a chance to work on a cure for it. He better work fast.
Not sure I'm as wild about Ford as I used to be. And I'm not sure if the sum total of his psychotic need to prove himself can be laid entirely upon the enzyme. The shine has gone off the apple just a bit. Hopefully he'll prove he's still human in the conclusion.
LOVED Lorne. Loved, loved, LOVED Lorne. So wonderfully snarky, and to Weir, too! LOL! And then he seemed to catch himself on it and tried to backpedal, which made it even funnier. I really, really hope they keep him around, and NOT just because he's so easy on the eyes. He has a very natural snarkiness to him. He isn't acerbic like McKay and he isn't cocky like Sheppard. He's a nice middle-ground and I love him for it.
cool a 5 second preview of stargate in january with Sheppard having a beard man did the guys on SG have a bet as to who can have a beard longer?
when the camera turned to to the sheps crew after weir said "they're already ready they looked like a cool crew haha with shep eatting a candy bar, teyla and mckay arms folded and ronon brooding i think
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I'm betting that's a clip from whatsit, that ep Joe Flanigan helped to write.Originally Posted by GoldenSG-1
Are you thinking of Ephiphany?Originally Posted by ShadowMaat
That would be the one. I'm not good with names. lolOriginally Posted by MasySyma
Ya know, I've seen a few people talking about Lorne and Weir flirting and I still can't see it. But I'm HAPPY not to see it because that would be utterly asinine.
Besides, I want Lorne to myself. I'm not willing to share.
Originally Posted by SnoggingPicard
That was really cool, the fight over the lettuce, right up till Teyla slugged him the first time and he wiped blood from the wrong side of his mouth.
GAH!! A right handed hit will damage the left side not the right!! Sorry, pet peeve...
The drag across the table was a nice shot.
Can't wait till January!
Weir should have pounced on him when he didn't want to go after Sheppard's team, and then she kept acting weird in his presence. I would not call it flirting by the normal definition of the word, but it was way out of character for Weir and the closest to "girly" she's come all show. It was scary.Originally Posted by ShadowMaat
I'll let you have Lorne if I can have McKay. Just protect me from McKay's Girl.
Nice ep, great to see how Ford is doing and learn how the team is going to take over a Hive ship.
-Really loving Ford now; the writers have done a great job setting him up as an unknown. Is he friend or foe? Innocent or ruthless?
-Are the long wraith guns new? They're sweet.
-I noticed that this midseason cliffhanger is much like last season's Storm; lots of planning and getting ready but minimal action until the very end. If the similarities continue, one would assume we're getting plenty of action in Hive...
-The hostage scenario is getting old. McKay continually being asked to fix things while being a hostage is also getting old.
-Shep told Ford that he had seen both Ford's cousin and grandparents back on Earth (presumably during Intruder), but we never saw Shep with the grandparents. Missing scene or was Shep lying to Ford?
-Weir...didn't have much to do. Again. Bummer.
-Second bummer that the blond scientist died (Jana? Jasa?). He had a red shirt feel to him from the start, but I was hoping otherwise...
-OMG, another season finale where Shep is on the brink of death!!!
Well, personally, I think Lorne was right. If we the viewers hadn't known what was up, I'd probably have been inclined to think they'd gotten caught up in something and didn't bother to report in, either. I think he was just reflecting Atlantis's general attitude towards Shep's team. He did agree in the end, as I'm sure Weir knew he would. That's why she waited him out. Classic tactic. I didn't see anything "weird" about it, except maybe her worrying in the first place. It's starting to kind of grate how much she panics whenever anything happens to Sheppard. Or when she THINKS something has happened to him.Originally Posted by MasySyma
Maybe if I could see her exhibiting the same level of worry over someone else- a non-major character such as Zelenka or Carson or even Lorne himself... or someone we don't even know- I'd feel a bit better over it. But as it is, it's starting to come off a little unnatural to me. Yeah, they're the premiere team and uber important and all and she does care about her people, but take it down a notch or five. Lorne was right about that, too.
Pfft. Nope. I can protect McKay juuust fine. And still have Lorne all to myself.I'll let you have Lorne if I can have McKay. Just protect me from McKay's Girl.
EDIT: Oh yes, and a better sense of time would have helped one hell of a lot. Has Shep's team been gone for days? Weeks? Months??
Good, solid episode.
Good to see Ford again. I really hurt for the guy. Addicted to drugs, lonely, wanting to prove himself. Btw. .its going to be interesting to see Ronon and Teyla get back to Atlantis and have withdrawal problems - if TPTB show it.
McKay was McKay, but - hey, he repaired a dart! I didn't find him overly angry, just incredibly scared.
Ronon and Teyla eating salad and engaging in foreplay. . er, ah. . fighting, yep, they were FIGHTING. We never see Teyla laugh, but Ronon brought it out (or was it the drugs). Anyway, thanks to TPTB who created Ronon and hired Jason - you've actually made me like Teyla. The scene was fun, until Sheppard broke it up. Bah. Go away. Let 'em play.
As for Ford's men who fell off the platform. I doubt they are dead - high on the enzyme and with super strength, they'll be back to save the day. Maybe. Were they wearing red? *LOL*
I'm requesting an entire episode of Major Lorne and his team (with Zelenka as their scientist, of course).
The bad? Two Weir-Lite episodes back-to-back, and two episodes without Dr. Beckett. Or did I miss him when I blinked? He is a "reg" now, isn't he?
Pfft. Rodney was on that away team too.Originally Posted by ShadowMaat
So was Teyla.
And...Dex! Come on, you saw how awkward she was around him in the mess hall. There's definitely something there.
Better watch it there, Toaster, or you'll be a literal interpretation of your handle.Originally Posted by ToasterOnFire
The mess hall scene was funny, even if it was a bit surprising for Weir to assume he meant he was actually leaving. Guess that's caught up in the moment, eh?
I'm curious to see where Weir fits in to Ronon's command structure and what he thinks of her. He stayed frozen in place like a good little pup until she left. Obeying orders sorta thing or what? Caught off guard? Amused? Decided he really wanted to sit and eat his jello after all?
theres one thing i got to say about Wraith females they are alway hot....lol
LOL Not the one from a few episodes back though.Originally Posted by deathbed1983
This one definately has it over the first hive "queen". Except for the teeth she looked pretty hot to me...hotter than the "hot" 1st officer from Aurora anyway.
Well, more exciting than Aurora. I like a Ford centerd ep - and I think he's completly right. Him and his buddies seem to be doing a better job of saving the universe than Shep and Co. So what if there's a few side effects? It's a better side effect than a pre-mature death...which can be a side effect anyway, but at least you'll have gone down fighting. I say everyone on Atlantis should get the Wraith enzyme and start kicking some arse - without the help of polluting nukes. I've lost it with Shep. He's such a dweeb, what's the big idea, not telling Ford that the Dart would go into auto pilot. What, he acts surprised when it does then he tries to make Ford look bad by telling him at the last minute?? That's some jacked up leadership. Then he goes and triggers the alarm! What a klutz! My god, Ford's right, he screwed up the mission! They'd have been in and out if Shep had just acted like, I dunno, a leader? Not been all whiny "awww, this is a bad plan, awwww, you're gonna get yourself killed, whine whine whine whine" I'm sorry, aren't you like the king of screwed up plans?? Suck it up man!! This is war not Chess!
OK, rant over. IMHO, Super Ford should be leading the Atlantis team (whatever it's called). He's got the chutzpah. Shep...needs lessons in optimisim and co-operation. Yep...
My electricity's flickering on and off thanks to Rita. (At least it stayed on long enough for me to see Atlantis... hurray) I just had to say one thing about the episodes tonight. Did Martin Gero write both?
I loooooved them.
Sheppard and McKay are so fantastic together. I enjoy the interesting storylines, but I love the scenes between the two guys even more. Rodney's line about them taking turns to save each other's lives... And Rodney angsting over being a "drug addict" and Sheppard giving him a reassuring pat on the arm.
So many lovely scenes, I want to go watch both episodes again. Atlantis is so good and so fun to watch, the months between season-sections seem twice as long.
Thank you, thank you, Mr. Gero, for the yummy eps!