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    Question Ancient weapon on Dakara?

    Maybe this has been asked before but here goes. Im new here so be gentle. Why dont they use the Ancient weapon on Dakara to wipe the Wraith out? Has it already been destroyed? I have been wondering about this for quite some time. What do you guys think?

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    As far as I know, the weapon on Dakara can't be moved, considering it's built right into the temple. So in order to destroy the Wraith the same way they did the Replicators with it, they'd need to open every gate in the Pegasus galaxy from the Milky Way, which is impossible given that it takes a lot out of a ZPM to open just one intergalactic portal. Also, we know that Atlantis' gate is the only one that can dial the Milky Way and it's possible (though not confirmed) that Earth's is the only one that can dial Pegasus.
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    Yeah I can see that. Didnt think about that angle. I cant wait until they get into more about the wraiths origin. How they evolved and exactly how similar they are genetically to the ancients.

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    the weapon in Dakara was destoyed it was said at the end of threads - plus if the weapon could kill the wraith it likely it will kill us aswell. And i to am interested in seeing the origin of the wraith.
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    They configured the weapon to destroy the Replicators only, so I don't see why they couldn't configure it to kill only Wraith.
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    I was thinking about this strategy myself, but it sounds like something we would see in season 8 of Atlantis (hopefully it gets that far or beyond); however, it's quite unlikely they'd recycle a tactic of such magnitude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCorpulent1
    They configured the weapon to destroy the Replicators only, so I don't see why they couldn't configure it to kill only Wraith.
    Reps are machines not organic the wraith are organic so are we so we would all die

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    exactly, it might kill teyla aswell, pplus its destroyed so its kind of pointless.
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    Default Re: Ancient weapon on Dakara?

    Then who would be the bad guy? lol.

    It's probably cause it's in a whole different galaxy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acropolis
    Reps are machines not organic the wraith are organic so are we so we would all die
    By that logic, any non-carbon based substance in the Mikly Way would have been destryoed as well, and that didn't happen. The weapon was confugured to only affect the replicators, so it could be configured to only affect Wraith physiology. However, since the device was destoryed, it's a moot point.
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    well thats the best thing but how did they seed life in pegaus?

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    The device on Dakara was used by the ancients to create life, which could mean there is one in the Pegasus Galaxy somewhere.
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    Yeah I would tend to think that there is one in the Pegasus galaxy. Maybe the ancients didnt use it because they had hope they could live in peace with them. Remember they send a team to negotiate with them. By that point it was prob too late to use it. The planet it was located on had prob fallen to the wraith. What do you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avenger
    By that logic, any non-carbon based substance in the Mikly Way would have been destryoed as well, and that didn't happen. The weapon was confugured to only affect the replicators, so it could be configured to only affect Wraith physiology. However, since the device was destoryed, it's a moot point.
    Thank you, that's exactly what I meant. The weapon can be used to target Replicators but not any other kind of technology, so I imagine it could be used to target specific traits unique to the Wraith too.

    As for whether there's a machine like the one on Dakara in the Pegasus galaxy, that would depend on whether the plague affected the PG. I was under the impression that it only got catastrophically bad in the Milky Way, so there was no need to reseed life in Pegasus. I just figured that the PG humans evolved (or devolved, in their case) from Ancients who were cut off from all their advanced technology by constant Wraith cullings on off-world colonies. Some of the tech survived, as we saw with Teyla's fancy-schmancy lighter, but the vast majority has been abandoned or lost because the Wraith are naturally attracted to technology as signs of advanced human life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avenger
    By that logic, any non-carbon based substance in the Mikly Way would have been destryoed as well, and that didn't happen. The weapon was confugured to only affect the replicators, so it could be configured to only affect Wraith physiology. However, since the device was destoryed, it's a moot point.
    THOR: It seems to have permanently disrupted communication between the individual cells, rendering each one inert. We explored such a technology in the past with no success.

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    to get the weapon to work they would need to have a complete understanding of wraith physiology to get it to target only the wraith.

    They were able to get the weapon to work on the replicators because they had the disrupter to work from.

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    The kiron pathways that the Dakara weapon disrupted were unique and vital to the Replicators. In order for the weapon to work on the Wraith, they would have to alter it so that it disrupts something unique to the Wraith, it also has to be something essential to their survival.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schrodinger82
    THOR: It seems to have permanently disrupted communication between the individual cells, rendering each one inert. We explored such a technology in the past with no success.
    That was the disrupter from New Order, not the Dakara device. The Dakara device was capable of breaking down matter to it's base components.
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    JACOB: Sam? (Sam looks up from the generator.) You might wanna hold off on that for a minute. If I’m reading this screen right, the weapon uses an energy wave to reduce all matter to its basic molecular elements. It’s not strong enough to disintegrate an entire planet, but it will wash away everything on a planet’s surface and everything in the surrounding space.
    CARTER: Sounds bad.
    JACOB: I know – but it also sounds like it does it much the same way your disrupter technology works on the Replicators – by separating the individual components.
    It used a similar technique to the disruptor weapon to seperate matter, thus why they were able to modify it based on what they knew of the disruptor's energy wave.

    The device could be reattuned to specifically wipe out the Wraith, but not by effectively programming it to "wipe out only Wraith". They'd have to find something that we could attune it to that's unique to the Wraith. Perhaps instead of trying to take out the Wraith, their ships could be targetted. They'd certainly be quite limited in what they could do if they had no space travel capabilities. Not to mention everything seems to indicate they haven't a single world of operation and rather operate from space. Thus a significant majority of them, if not all of them would get "spaced" as a result.

    Of course, this requires that such a device even exists in Pegasus, that the Pegasus crew find out how to dial all gates at once, and that they find out how to attune it to something from scratch.
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    Well if SGC shares that knowledge then that's the ticket to rid the Pegasus of the Wraith.

    However, they will have to find that device first, since the Ancients populated the Pegasus Galaxy, there must be a device somewhere unless it was destroyed by the Wraith.
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    that device is too powerful. One smart move and bye bye galaxy. Plus is it ethical to distroy all the race. Yes I know they trample life uncaringly but would that put us at their level.

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