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    Quote Originally Posted by Major Fischer
    Maybourne was "genuinely surprised and shocked (and worried)" because he'd been caught, not because he didn't know the Gate was a fake.

    Nah, it sure didn't look like that to me. He didn't HAVE to act surprised; he could have just gotten sly or secretive and said something smart-a$$ right from the get-go, without bothering to try to fool anybody. And I believe he would have if he really knew that wasn't the real stargate. Maybe he was just bluffing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jyh
    Nah, it sure didn't look like that to me. He didn't HAVE to act surprised; he could have just gotten sly or secretive and said something smart-a$$ right from the get-go, without bothering to try to fool anybody. And I believe he would have if he really knew that wasn't the real stargate. Maybe he was just bluffing.
    Yeah, but at that point you had to remember that Maybourne was still trying to play within the system. He couldn't be snide or sly about it, because Jack and the SGC could make a major stink about it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Major Fischer
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    Maybourne and the NID as good guys.
    Yeah, and most certainly out of character!

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    Quote Originally Posted by aschen
    Yeah, and most certainly out of character!
    I love that episode Most of all for AT's adlib in the cafe ...



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    The 'idiot every day of a week...' line was an adlib?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt G
    The 'idiot every day of a week...' line was an adlib?
    Tha'ts what I've heard.



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    yeah great episode where we find out about the rogue NID

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    Quote Originally Posted by Selmak
    The NID screw everything up and most of all annoy me.
    I agree. In a small fanfic I wrote I had the NID finally shut down after apparently nearly screwing up the entire SGC's secrecy as well as nearly screwing the planet.

    Anyway, this episode was pretty good. Not a blockbuster in itself, but it started the rogue NID/Trust storyarch.
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    This ep is signifigent if only because it introduces the NID. When they introduced Maybourne in 'Enigma' (wasn't it 'Enigma'?), did they ever mention what organization he was with?

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    Love this ep. Who doesnt like Maybourne and the NID.
    One thing that bothered me is when the guys jumped into the horizontal gate Daniel didnt seem to go and check the symbols till after they jumped. I know they used these guys later but still.

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    Read somewhere that NID doesn't actually stand for anything--it was just an acronym that the writers picked because it sounded official. Any word on this?

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    Last time I checked, that's the deal. I used 'National Intelligence Department' in a fanfic ine time but that counts for cack canon wse.

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    I just enjoy recalling what a smug article Maybourne was back then.

    On the issue of his surprise at the discovery of the plastic replica of the stargate, at the first watching, I thought he was as startled as anyone at the discovery. Whether anything can be read into that is debatable, I guess, but there's also room for the argument that he's thinking:
    'Oh $£%&£!, O'Neill's found out about the dud stargate!' or
    'Oh $£%&£!, it's a dud stargate!' or even,
    'Hey, Ido the dodgy stuff around here - is someone doing something even dodgier and not telling me?'

    I like Smug Maybourne. I just wish I had one of those soft-foam pretend bricks that you used to be able to get so that I could throw it at him when he's on screen. Sooooooosmug...

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    I can't say I much like the NID, but I love Maybourne and especially the scenes when he and Jack are bouncing lines off of one other...

    Loved it when they met Harry in the lab and Teal’c told him that "In my culture, I would be well within my rights to dismember you." Something the whole team would have loved to have done at one point or another!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShimmeringStar
    Loved it when they met Harry in the lab and Teal’c told him that "In my culture, I would be well within my rights to dismember you." Something the whole team would have loved to have done at one point or another!
    It's a cracking quote - and I doubt that I was alone in thinking 'Go Teal'c!' when he said it. After all, how do you come back with a smug response to that?

    Maybe someone could have added, 'But he won't. He respects your cleaning staff'.

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    So... who created the Touchstone for Madrona? The touchstone itself looks Furling in design, but Madrona's Gate platform looks like the one on the Ancients colony on P4X-639. Was it one of these races? Both working together? Theories?

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    I don't see any reason why there shouldn't have been a bit of partnership working there. If the two artifacts are concurrent with the Alliance of Four Races, then why not?

    I suppose the touchstone technology was already available; otherwise, who would bother colonising a planet with such destructive weather patterns? Maybe the Furlings (assuming it was them - which is reasonable given the design of the touchstone) saw Madrona's potential as a viable world and colonised it; and perhaps then the Ancients set up a stargate on the world a bit later on. Given what a paradise it seemed to be before NID nicked the touchstone, I'm sure they'd have been more than happy to drop by for a visit or six.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaka's_Mum
    It's a cracking quote - and I doubt that I was alone in thinking 'Go Teal'c!' when he said it. After all, how do you come back with a smug response to that?

    Maybe someone could have added, 'But he won't. He respects your cleaning staff'.
    Whee! That's great!

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    Ooh, I'm all now!

    Glad you liked it. It just seemed appropriate. A pity no one ad libbed it at the time!

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    The analysis for this ep states that they would have needed the order for the first 6 symbols. But from the explanation, (movie), that wouldn't seem true. If you plot the same 6 points in space, in any order, the point where they intersect will always be the same. At least it seems so to me.

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