Harlan and the Ancients (Very Minor Spoilers for Atlantis and SG-1)

[Daz]

Watching Season Ones episode 'Tin Man', you may notice that the character who transferred the consciousness of our beloved SG-1, Harlan, says that he has been in his current form for the last 11 thousand years.

This got me intriqued about the origins of his people, as I realised that the Ancients leaving for the Pegasus Galaxy left 10 thousands years ago, and that humans from Earth were only taken by Ra an friends about 5 thousand years ago.

Being the first season and only a passing comment, I guessed the writers overlooked this.

But maybe not. You may also notice that the writing on the computer screen, and the symbols dotted around the complex on the planet are reminiscent of, or even just fancier versions of, the Ancient alphabet.

So, did the writers have this in mind from the beginning? Why didn't Daniel or anyone else comment on how Harlan got to be on his planet, and look/be human (granted, he was a robot, but was a copy of a real person) if, at this point they believed at least, that human form evolved on Earth, and was transplanted around the galaxy by Ra and the other Goa'uld, as the timing is wrong...?

And even if they did not pick up on the dates being wrong for their current theory at the time of all humans being transplanted from Earth, how could they have advanced from being primitives in the Egyptian desert to being able to create robotic duplicates?

Also, how could it be that the Goa'uld wiped out them, as I think Teal'c proposed, when there were still Ancients around the place and the Goa'uld were in Unas still?

Any comments, thoughts, ideas etc yadda et al?

[DelTrax1]

Interesting theory.....

[Daz]

I realise now, this should probably be in the Season 1-6 folder or whatever it is, but hey, i dont think it would get answered at all there.

[6thMonolith]

Watching Season Ones episode 'Tin Man', you may notice that the character who transferred the consciousness of our beloved SG-1, Harlan, says that he has been in his current form for the last 11 thousand years.

This got me intriqued about the origins of his people, as I realised that the Ancients leaving for the Pegasus Galaxy left 10 thousands years ago, and that humans from Earth were only taken by Ra an friends about 5 thousand years ago.

Being the first season and only a passing comment, I guessed the writers overlooked this.

But maybe not. You may also notice that the writing on the computer screen, and the symbols dotted around the complex on the planet are reminiscent of, or even just fancier versions of, the Ancient alphabet.

So, did the writers have this in mind from the beginning? Why didn't Daniel or anyone else comment on how Harlan got to be on his planet, and look/be human (granted, he was a robot, but was a copy of a real person) if, at this point they believed at least, that human form evolved on Earth, and was transplanted around the galaxy by Ra and the other Goa'uld, as the timing is wrong...?

And even if they did not pick up on the dates being wrong for their current theory at the time of all humans being transplanted from Earth, how could they have advanced from being primitives in the Egyptian desert to being able to create robotic duplicates?

Also, how could it be that the Goa'uld wiped out them, as I think Teal'c proposed, when there were still Ancients around the place and the Goa'uld were in Unas still?

Any comments, thoughts, ideas etc yadda et al?

The Ancients packed up between five and ten million years ago. I think that they came back like 10 thousand years ago, but I'll go check

[The Maneuver]

The Ancients packed up between five and ten million years ago. I think that they came back like 10 thousand years ago, but I'll go check

If it was 5-10 million years ago, then that would suggests that Harlan's people were transplanted by the Ancients, which would give them enough time to evolve to a point where they could have been making androids 11,000 years ago.

As for Teal'c guessing that they were wiped out by the Goa'uld, it was probably just a guess, as he would have had no idea how long the Goa'uld have been around for. (Jaffa would be kept in the dark about these things, it makes more sense for Apophis to tell his servants that he's been around forever, as opposed to for 5000 years)

[Gaterholic]

It has been hinted that the ancients spread life around before the goa'uld. Now after they left for pegasis, some probably died off, or evolved beyond human (nox, asgard IMO). But there were pleanty of worlds with human life. it is probably that earth was just the first world they FOUND us on. there is a LOT of planets and A LOT of stargates. and even after they found other human worlds, we've seen how they are on other worlds, small and close to the gate. on earth, there was a lot, and abundant.

Thats what i think...

[Major_Griff]

The goa'uld coverstones on the giza were 10 thousand years old. meaning the Ra was booted off this rock around then.