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    Default What personal weapons did the Ancients have? (poss spoilers, Atlantis)

    Here's a little point that has occured to me regarding the lack of Ancient personal weapons.

    The Atlantis explorers have found all sorts of useful items, such as a personal shield and lifesign detectors, and big weapons (chair powered and puddlejumper drones and the space station gun platform), but no personal weapons at all.

    Did the Ancients not have personal weapons and rely on their big stuff? Have the team just not found the armoury? Or did the Ancients take all their small arms with them when they left? And what sort of weapons would they be? Projectile or some sort of beam weaponry? What would power them?
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    Default Re: What personal weapons did the Ancients have? (poss spoilers, Atlantis)

    If the Asgard's anything to go by, it's unlikely we'll see any of the Ancient's personal weapons!! maybe that's cos they never needed any due to the fact they had the Goa'uld in the palm of their hands for centuries or just there's been no need for them, with the exception of the replicators of course.

    But i think if they did, i would be some form of beam weapon like a smaller version of the space station. almost like a phasor from Star Trek but much more macho and powerful!

    But i'm willing to wager that they relied on their hefty weapons and ships, much like the Asgard do these days.
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    Default Re: What personal weapons did the Ancients have? (poss spoilers, Atlantis)

    hey, no dissing the phasers. I don't know if the Ancients had personal weapons. They seem like the type that do big and powerful.
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    i would imagine them having the type of hand weapons that you see on andromeda.... we still haven't seen any... even in SG1.. kinda weird to me... makes you think that their are probably a world loaded with them... or a storage room in atlantis full of them...

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    Default Re: What personal weapons did the Ancients have? (poss spoilers, Atlantis)

    I don't think they had any. If they did they would have something like the force lances in Andromeda, guided bullets that targets that you look at.

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    Euhmm..doesn't the Anti-Replicator Disruptor count as a Hand weapon ?
    This does prove that they could have had them.
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    Default Re: What personal weapons did the Ancients have? (poss spoilers, Atlantis)

    or a storage room in atlantis full of them
    Thats a point, if they did have them, surely we would've found them by now, being there for a year or so. and it's not like they'd have only one room with all powerful weapons in it, they'd have them stationed throughout atlantis.
    Euhmm..doesn't the Anti-Replicator Disruptor count as a Hand weapon ?
    I think that was created using the knowledge of the ancients and that it wasn't necessarily, but could've been i guess, a weapon of the ancients.
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    I wouldn't call it an Ancient hand-weapon. O'Neill designed it with knowledge from the Ancients. Calling that an Ancient hand-weapon would be like calling a TV a weapon. A TV:s electron cannon could easily be turned into a weapon if one boosted the power input a few million times Basicly It'd become a more powerful particle accelerator

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    They probably don't have any hand weapons or ground vehicles for that matter. If they did it would probably be something small and worthless like the Tollan guns. Earth is apparently unique in the universe for having the brains to apply technology.

    This whole concept of not maintaining an army because you have a fleet is so stupid. What happens if your fleet is somewhere else? driven off? or destroyed? Why do shows like Stargate and Star Trek do that?

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    Probably a manpower issue. Whenever we see Thor he is the only one on his whole big ship. As such they have enough people to man a fleet but not a ground army and a ship is a more potent way of doing the same thing a ground army can using technology e.g. a wave that could destroy all of a certain people using a beam from a ship or they transport people off the planet. The Ancients had no need for an army, until they found the Wraith they were the only sentient beings there. They had to fihgt Wraith ships before they could use ground armies to liberate planets and they never got around to doing anything like that.

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    I think it would be cool if they had something like a T.E.R. I mean, not exactly "out-of-phase" weapons, but something likewise in design.

    Really, I believe there would have been some form of personal weapons for O'Neill to have built that weapon in season 8. Thor said he was trying to extract any information regarding Ancient weapons/technology against the replicators. Now, he didn't know what/how the weapon did, but I think he was expecting a weapon just as much as anyone else, or at least part of one.

    They've been using a lot of the Wraith weapons...the "stun guns"....

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    i'd think that they'd have some kind of merciful weapon, like a vaporizer, and you don;t even feel it when you get vaporized. i also thought that they should also have weapons similar to the force lances on Andromeda. i dont know why.

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    I doubt the ancients had any personal weapons. The only time they've had to fight was against the Wraith, and I didn't see any security forces walking around with ray guns in Before I Sleep.

    The ancients had their shields and forcefields, which apparently allowed them to get around without needing personal weapons. Afterall, what good is a personal weapon if your enemy can't harm you?
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    Default Re: What personal weapons did the Ancients have? (poss spoilers, Atlantis)

    Really, I believe there would have been some form of personal weapons for O'Neill to have built that weapon in season 8. Thor said he was trying to extract any information regarding Ancient weapons/technology against the replicators.
    Chances are, since the ancients were so advanced i would say they would've come across that idea before, or at least experimented with it. i think it's more likely that thor could've used that research in Jack's mind and the database to gain a deeper understanding of the replicators and their function. maybe not that technology in general but the idea of the weapon to sever the communications. SPOILER: SEASON 8 "revelations" and "threads":Given that it's said in revelations and threads that the ancients used similar technology to re-seed the galaxy after the plague.Then used the information with the ship's computer to help design the weapon rather than it being a straight copy or similar to a personal weapon of the ancients.
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    I hope they show more flashbacks of the war during season 2. It's unthinkable that the Ancients could fight for 100 years without so much as a handgun to their name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vetesn
    I hope they show more flashbacks of the war during season 2. It's unthinkable that the Ancients could fight for 100 years without so much as a handgun to their name.
    LOL. Yeah, I think they should (even though I missed Before I Sleep ). I think more needs to be explained with the war against the Wraith (along with maybe a possible way of taking them out WITHOUT THEM COMING BACK)

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    Maybe SGA found weapons but don't really know what they're for and using them as paper weights... They probably didn't need lasers anymore and used the frequency device to just disassociate a person's molecules... well maybe they used a laser to aim it... Anyway, Atlantis seeded the galaxy there... They probably didn't feel threatened or needed weapons being explorers and scientists. The good stuff has to be probably in the MW, but they've either been lost or found and exploited already. Or they had mind powers which would serve as weapons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SG Zero
    Maybe SGA found weapons but don't really know what they're for and using them as paper weights... They probably didn't need lasers anymore and used the frequency device to just disassociate a person's molecules... well maybe they used a laser to aim it... Anyway, Atlantis seeded the galaxy there... They probably didn't feel threatened or needed weapons being explorers and scientists. The good stuff has to be probably in the MW, but they've either been lost or found and exploited already. Or they had mind powers which would serve as weapons.
    Mind Powers.....that's a little over the edge, but it would sort of work. The people with the Ancient gene use Ancient tech by using instincts, their mind, etc. I guess that would be cool if the Ancients had telekinetic powers.

    Can you imagine O'Neill having Telekinetic Powers??? LOL

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    Default Re: What personal weapons did the Ancients have? (poss spoilers, Atlantis)

    I started a thread similar to this one, I also believe that the ancients must have had some kind of personal weapons, they had armories. There was definetly a use for them, so where are they?

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    In the ocean we found a city down there who knows what else is down there.

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