Reckoning, Part 2 (817)

[GateWorld]

DISCUSS ... RECKONING, PART 2 EPISODE NUMBER - 817 The fate of the galaxy hangs in the balance as Sam and Jacob search for the only weapon capable of stopping the Replicator onslaught. O'Neill leads a defense of the S.G.C., while Daniel squares off against Replicator Carter. Visit the Episode Guide >>

[Shipperahoy]

Sorry it's late. Obviously we've had a few hiccups. Post away!

[Nurgle]

Prolly the best SG1 episode to date.

[Crazedwraith]

Aaargh. Poor Daniel! Stabbed and decompressed! Very nice Replicarter/Daniel moments and generally all of Jack fighting the replictors and the Siler bit.

O'NEILL: Hey use two of those!
REYNOLDS:???
O'NEILL: Its a 'blast' door.

the moment when daniel stopped the reps in their tracks was cool. Reynolds & O'neill stopp glance at each other with a WFT expression then start blasting away again anyway.

The very last scene was so good. Cater and O'Neill trying so hard not to be worried for Daniel. O'Neill scribbling hard on the desk and the end said it all really.

Can't wait for the world premiere extra long threads next week.

[mayorbill11]

I'm glad they finally killed the stupid replicators.

[shockwave]

great ep

funny to see siler get stuck

so I suppose all reps are gone now, apparently none of them were left in the asgard galaxy

[Skydiver]

a very good, very solid episode. fantastic setup for threads, i think anyway

Evil sam was chillingly great, so was smart aleck daniel

i laughed at sam's quips and loved her working with baal and dad

i'm more than a little worried about dad though...but, angst slut that i am, am drooling at the prospects opened up by this one

potential for sam/dad, sam/jack tension, sam/daniel (cause, you know, unless they lied about that whole s9 but, he's gonna come back)

i liked seeing more jaffa that were willing to work together instead of snarking at each other, isaac hayes was a cool character

all in all, it was great

[Replicarter]

Omg, this episode is now my fav of season 8, they just keep getting better and better.

I loved all the different storylines, Sam Selmac and the machine stuff was all cool, and even better when ba'al arrived, with his, "im a god, Gods are all knowing"

And it was nice seeing Jack in the base with his jokes that are actualy good, compared to other jack scenes earlier this season. The best, as everyone is alrady commenting on is "its a *air quotes* Blast door*Air quotes*".

And obviously, the Daniel and Replicarter scenes , im not just the biggest Replicarter fan, im also a everything Ancient and Accended fan, finaly getting a hint that Daniel unlocks some of the Ancient secrets is cool, hopefully they will use some of this later on. And although i am extreamly sad Replicarter is no longer with us, and that she faild, R.I.P, the scene with danial going into her mind then taking over her was cool. But not as cool as her arm turning into a blade and stabbing him right through the chest

And thats all i have to say, not that anyone will read it/understand my bad grammar

[KatG]

Fantastic episode. Probably the best Stargate ep this season. I was literally on the edge of my seat. Really need to watch it again to catch all the little extras.

The RC/Daniel scenes were great. Wasn't expecting Daniel to die there at the end, although it does make the spoilers for Threads make more sense.

Loved Sam/Jacob working together, and Jacob/Ba'al were hilarious. I'm worried about Jacob too. He didn't look so good there at the end. Wonder if that machine did something to him.

When the replicators froze, that was totally cool. Very nice special effects in this one.

[Madeleine]

This ep was just smashing all the way through. It's rare to find a Part II that so far exceeds the Part I - and Reckoning I was good anyway.

Daniel's stuff got more intense scene by scene, and his death was horribly moving. He died all alone, thinking he'd failed to defeat the replicators. But he was awesome in the scenes leading up to that. I laughed for joy when he grabbed Replicarter's hand, it was such a surprise.

Teal'c and co didn't die! The Jaffa weren't wiped out! Hurrah!

The VFX bods did a cracking job with the space battle, and the montage of all the gates was surprisingly uplifting. And I never cease to be amazed at the realness of the replicators; but in this ep they were particularly good, perhaps cos they were in the SGC so it seemed scarier.

Jack wasn't the least bit dim, in fact he was totally on the ball. Hurrah!

And Sam, Selmak, Jacob and Baa'al were a splendid triple-act. (I'll gloss over the Windows-compatible ex-time-machine-cum-ultimate-weapon thing cos the rest of the plot more than makes up for stuff like that )

I can't wait for next week.

[Aadizookaan]

Originally Posted by KatG

Loved Sam/Jacob working together, and Jacob/Ba'al were hilarious. I'm worried about Jacob too. He didn't look so good there at the end. Wonder if that machine did something to him.

I have a little theory on that. I believe in order to change life in the galaxy, or destory one type, another had to be given in its place too. So, Jacob is on his way to the pearly gates - Selmak is only keeping him going until he too will succumb.

[Nurgle]

I guessing Selmac also programmed the machine to wipe out the snakes without actually telling anyone aswell...

[keshou]

My favorite episode of the season. Great dialogue, great pacing, great story. The editing of the shots as they cut back and forth between all the storylines kept the tension high.

But most of all I loved SG-1 in this. And all the supporting and guest characters. The team was separated but they were all working together - whether they knew it or not.

*I loved Jack in this. Snarky but acting like the leader he can be when he's put to the test. Not silly like he was in part I. Everyone at the base got in on the act. Siler, Walter, Reynolds. Just great stuff.

Jack: "I expect to be in your will, Siler"
Siler: "You already are, sir"
Jack: "Okay, that's......weird"

*I loved RC and Daniel's confrontation. How cool was that when Daniel finally grabbed her arm and started getting the upper hand? The replicators froze.

Daniel: "Trying to leave? Sorry - spend a little more time in Danny's world"
RC: "My brethren will not stop. You cannot control them"
Daniel: "Not yet but I'm learning"

Ooh, good stuff. And then RC gives Daniel the blade thru the chest. Eek!

* Sam/Jacob/Baal. How fun was that whole interaction when they were trying to figure out that ancient panel (straight out of WoO). Baal is the best Goa'uld ever.

Baal: "This one!"
Jacob/Selmak: "How do you know"
Baal: "I am a god, gods are all-knowing"
Jacob: "Selmac can't work like this. Neither can I"
Sam: "Just try it" (Jacob pushes block)
Jacob: "Lucky guess" (Baal smirks - )

All the gates kawooshing (using every stock shot in their arsenal), all the replicators crawling everywhere. The slow-motion montage of Teal'c face as they awaited destruction, Sam firing at the replicators, Jack and company blasting away, Daniel dying with blood dripping out of his mouth. Then the great special effects shots of the Ancient weapon disintegrating all the replicators.

Did I say I loved this episode. And I haven't said that about a SG-1 episode in quite awhile.

Is Daniel going to ascend again? If he survives will he still have any ancient knowledge? Is RC definitely gone? What about Anubis - he's still lurking out there. So is Baal. What about Jacob - he didn't look so hot. Poor Sam if she loses Jacob. Jack looked like he's in denial about Daniel being gone - he does have a habit of coming back after all.

Bring on "Threads".

[Anubis]

WOW! Was this one of the best eps or what?

So it started off a little slow in the briefing room, but it really picked up pace from this point forward. As soon as SG-1 [not Jack, yet] go to Takaara and go in search of the weapon to eliminate the Replicators it really picked up from this point. Though those circles that had to be turned on the wall were a bit too obvious and could be seen easily.

The scenes between Daniel/Replicarter were superb. When Replicarter was reading Daniel's mind, he read hers. I though the part where Daniel took control of the whole situation was great ...

*Replicator Carter takes some info from Daniel's mind - they both look surprised.*

Daniel : You lied to me.
Replicarter : What?
D : You promised you'd leave Earth alone. There's replicators infiltrating the SGC, right now.
RC : How can you know that?

*Daniel smiles*

*RC raises fist to Daniel, he grabs it*

D : Trying to leave? Sorry! A little more time in Danny's world.


I thought that entire scene was just great. One of the most humorous scenes, of them all.

When the Replicators infiltrate the SGC, it was great. The look on Jack's face as they come swarming through the Stargate was really great. Starts shouting into the gate room for an evacuation. The fight between the SGC/Replicators was really great, and Jack finally had some action in the episode, the most YET.

Some of the special effects in this episode alone were great. The battle between Ba'al's fleet and the Replicators were amazing. Especially for a tv series.

It's a shame that Daniel couldn't do anything to stop Replicarter from killing him. She just plunged the blade right through him, making him suffer a slow and painful death .. at which point I'm guessing he'll be stuck in his 'path'.


Overall -- an amazing episode. Has to make the favourite list. Each week the episodes get better and better. I think it's safe to assume that Threads will also be a great episode, I hope.

[aAnubiSs]

Gah, yet another clip show

Loved it. However the Ha'tak battle was a huge disappointment. Having 50 or so Ha'tak shooting at eachother from a few light seconds away wasn't something that impressed me.

[langdonboom]

I have to chime in and say -- HOLY SH*T was that a great episode. IT really felt like it paid a LOT of stuff off, not just plotwise but entire story-arc/character wise.

I agree, Baal just took a GIANT leap forward in being the best Goa'uld of them all (non-ascended, anyway!) His "I'm a God" bit and his comment about being "sick" over Oneill's hand in his own salvation was PRICELESS. Loved it to death.

" and the montage of all the gates was surprisingly uplifting."

I totally agree. I was in TEARS at this moment, it was somehow such a beautiful, wonderful grace note to the series, the Replicator/Goauld storylines, it was just a great reminder of how much SG has ment to me and probably all of you guys as well over so many years.

Here's a game:

can anyone name the planets/episodes we saw in that montage? I recognized a few from episodes (like the red trees - what planet was that one?! Its buggin me) but I wasn't sure about them all. Was the first one Chulak? I don't remember the Pyramid but the stone bits near the gate looked like Chulak.

Anyway, yes, BEST episode of the season, and it just has me highly anticipating Threads.

hurray for this show!


one more thing I loved:

When the replicators barged their way into the SGC with no problem, and Jack's response. HE KNEW this day might come, and he was READY and did EVERYTHING he could to deal with it. It was just awesome to see it happen! Scary, even though of course nothing 'bad' ever really happens, it was easy to pretend something could. Those things are POWERFUL and they were really well drawn over the last few episodes to seem/feel unstoppable.

AND Daniel's bit was awesome.

Is it just me or did this episode feel like one of the most 'team' oriented eps even though each character was alone with his/her mission? That montage at the end when Daniel was dying and Jack and Sam were firing in slow-mo, and tealc was just stoically awaiting his fate, MAN that was such a great touch, a great reminder of who the main characters are and that they ARE a team, even though they're separated sometimes.

[Kalinda]

Well.. let's see; great episode! =) Mostly..

Daniel "dying" was an interesting twist that I didn't see coming... but has anyone noticed how bad stuff always happens to Daniel? It's like.. an SG1 tradition... kinda funny, I guess. I wonder how he's gonna get out of it this time, though.

Amanda Tapping was awesome as usual with RepliCarter Though it was a good idea, I felt her character was rather short lived. Then again, they did write this season from the perspective it'd be the last... I think..

I am kinda glad the reps are finally gone, it would've been awful if they'd become terribly overused like the borg did in ST.

Loved the whole thing with Ba'al.. and how he wished Sam and Jacob/Selmak luck before he went poof hehe.. was fun to see them forced to work together.

And the Jaffa rebellion is doing good; I'm thinking the days of the Goa'uld are numbered =)

Looking very forward to Threads and its 90 minute longness I hope it's as good as they say ^_^

My only beef with the episode was how everyone just seemed to have forgotten about Daniel until the very end, although I guess they were pre-occupied...

Oh, also loved the Danny/RepliCarter stuff and how he learned to take control for a bit

It was nice how they built up all that suspense at the end, with the reps attacking Earth and then Ba'al's fleet and finally the temple and then they finally get blown away at the end. It was a great way to get rid of them

Okay.. I think that's it.. had a lot to say there^^

9/10

[langdonboom]

OH, and PS:

I just watned to add how AWESOME I thought it was for this episode to make refrence/use of Avenger 2.0, probably one of the most maligned (and not totally unrightly so) episodes of all SG-1. I love how Baal copped to knowing what happened and taking credit for turning the tables. TOTALLY legitimized Avenger 2.0 which otherwise would have been remembered mostly for the action figure scene or some other bit of foolishnes! But it was awesome how Sam *knew* baal could dial all the gates at once, and also cool how the Tok'Ra had no idea about this ability -- made the Goa'uld feel a bit more powerful than they've felt lately.

So again, AWESOME!

[Nurgle]

Ba'al was great in this ep (but then, he always is). He always had more depth than the other snakes, but there was something about the was he wished Sam/Jacob/Selmack luck which seemed pretty sincere.

His exit was pretty funky too.

[Skydiver]

let's see if i can recall the planets

t'kara
juna
chulak
past and present (the boxes)
prisoners (the vine covered blocks)
fiad....the one that was in danie's dream, the pink planet
one as yet unidentified
sgc

i might have them a bit out of order, i can't find the list i made