Children of the Gods (101)

GateWorld · #1 April 26th, 2004, 04:44 PM

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CHILDREN OF THE GODS
EPISODE NUMBER - 101

Powerful aliens come through Earth's Stargate. Colonel Jack O'Neill returns to Abydos to retrieve Daniel Jackson, who has discovered a map of Stargates revealing that the alien transit system includes much more than the two planets.

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Jeff O'Connor · #2 May 19th, 2004, 12:53 PM

I honestly think this is the coolest series premiere of any show I've ever seen. Then again, I guess you could kind've say the movie was the series premiere!

Colonal Jack O'Teal'C · #3 May 31st, 2004, 08:18 AM

Hi ya's,
I'm new here so forgive me if this has been covered in the past.

Last night I decided to rip my SG-1 DVD collection and back them all up as Divx files. I started with Season 1 to make it less confusing for me. Anyways, I went back to see how the first one came out. It was Children Of The Gods. Here is my question. In the first part we see Apophis and his Ja'Fa come through the gate. After taking a hostage and shooting up the place we see them going back through. Ok, with no DHD...how in the heck did they dial back out? This is something I must have looked over many many times and just now realizing that it was impossible for them to dial out from the base at that time. Unless they accessed the computers but none of them left the gate platform. I'm thinking there should be a portable DHD written into the script to explain this. Ok, I'm done with my rant lol......

Jimmy
Star Trek is dead....Long live Stargate

Ugly Pig · #4 May 31st, 2004, 09:00 AM

This has been debated many, many times throughout the years Stargate fandom has existed. There isn't any one definite answer, though...

Me, I think they simply dialled out manually. It makes more sense than having them use some kind of unknown piece of technology they don't show us and haven't shown us since.

Crazedwraith · #5 May 31st, 2004, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Ugly Pig

This has been debated many, many times throughout the years Stargate fandom has existed. There isn't any one definite answer, though...

Me, I think they simply dialled out manually. It makes more sense than having them use some kind of unknown piece of technology they don't show us and haven't shown us since.

Actually he proberly used a device similar to futur Cassies' In "1969" that way he also avoids the swoosh disintergrating him. I don't think there was enough time for a manuel dial-out before Hammond and troops baraged in.

Ugly Pig · #6 May 31st, 2004, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Crazedwraith

Actually he proberly used a device similar to futur Cassies' In "1969" that way he also avoids the swoosh disintergrating him.

There's no evidence the Goa'uld have a device like that. We didn't see it then, and we haven't seen it in seven years since. If they did have a such device, then why would they keep using the DHD all the time?

Crazedwraith · #7 May 31st, 2004, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Ugly Pig

There's no evidence the Goa'uld have a device like that. We didn't see it then, and we haven't seen it in seven years since. If they did have a such device, then why would they keep using the DHD all the time?

Yeah but there wasn't enough time for his Serpent Guards to get out of the way of the whoosh mainuallly dial and get back to their nice neat positions at hte top of the ramp? I think not? Maybe Apophisis was the only goa'uld to get one. Maybe Future Cassie's thing is his??

Ugly Pig · #8 May 31st, 2004, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Crazedwraith

Yeah but there wasn't enough time for his Serpent Guards to get out of the way of the whoosh mainuallly dial and get back to their nice neat positions at hte top of the ramp? I think not?

How can you tell? The show doesn't play out in real time, you know.

omnian · #9 May 31st, 2004, 12:17 PM

I agree....and Apophis also says something regarding the Stargate right before his exit scene doesn't he? He says something in Goa'uld and sort of points his head towards the Stargate. Perhaps this was a signal to his Jaffa to manually dial?

Anubis · #10 May 31st, 2004, 12:35 PM

Yes, Apophis did say something then it cut to another scene and all we can do is guess what he said

SGSlugger · #11 May 31st, 2004, 02:24 PM

Maybe he found an automated dailing device somewhere, and then dropped it when he left?

Really it's just one of those big honkin' plot holes.

Colonal Jack O'Teal'C · #12 May 31st, 2004, 10:00 PM

Thanks for the replies, I was so suprised to see so many since this morning. I was thinking though....Remember the device Jack built after he gained the knowledge of the ancients. I believe it was in the second season..."The Fifth Race" I think it was. If memory serves me, did it not dial out after giving the gate a power boost to use an eighth symbol? Something along those lines perhaps? Anyway, just a thought.

Anubis · #13 June 1st, 2004, 03:57 AM

You are correct. That device gave the SGC a massive energy boost which allowed them to engage a seventh chevron and lock an eigth

Ugly Pig · #14 June 1st, 2004, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Colonal Jack O'Teal'C

Remember the device Jack built after he gained the knowledge of the ancients. I believe it was in the second season..."The Fifth Race" I think it was. If memory serves me, did it not dial out after giving the gate a power boost to use an eighth symbol? Something along those lines perhaps? Anyway, just a thought.

Well, if Apophis had a similar device, someone would have to go and plug it in where Jack did... And that seems very unlikely.

Anubis · #15 June 1st, 2004, 06:55 AM

I doubt that Apophis would have plugged it in somewhere, like where, in the ground? I agree, it seems unlikely

MagnoliaAnaglypta · #16 June 1st, 2004, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Anubis

You are correct. That device gave the SGC a massive energy boost which allowed them to engage a seventh chevron and lock an eigth

But it didn't dial the gate itself. If I recall correctly, Jack had left a program in the SGC computer to do the dialling.

Anubis · #17 June 1st, 2004, 10:05 AM

Indeed. Jack done some work with the computers, done some drawings and built the device. Then he walked through the gate to the Asgard homeworld

bcmilco · #18 June 8th, 2004, 08:49 PM

Just posted this on the Cor-Ai thread, but thought it fit better over here.

Frankly I find Teal'c's switch bothersome. I love Teal'c and I think his character is wonderful (especially when he gets a chance to speak!

), but his change just doesn't work for me. You said "people who were in a good position to combat the goa'uld." And for me that's the rub, they weren't in a good possition. They were in the crappiest possition they could be in. They were prisoners, and Teal'c had no clue how many there were, or how strong they were. To just up and take off with some nobody you just meet isn't the smartest idea, other then the fact that the script says it's the right thing to do.

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"Many have said that... but you are the first I believe could do it."

And that line always baffled me too, because up till then he's seen humans from earth get the crap kicked out of them by Jaffa. IMO there is no reason why Teal'c should believe that statement except for the fact that the script told him to say it.

I understand it's supposed to show he's noble, and virtuous, and a good judge of character, and I did see that, but it still bothers me.

Elwe Singollo · #19 June 8th, 2004, 08:58 PM

I was wondering the samething... Thats going to bother me for a while... Maybe (even though it'll never happen) they should base an episode on Teal'c's past, pre- meeting Jack and the others.

Crazedwraith · #20 June 9th, 2004, 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by littlemigueljr

I was wondering the samething... Thats going to bother me for a while... Maybe (even though it'll never happen) they should base an episode on Teal'c's past, pre- meeting Jack and the others.

*cough* Threshold *cough*