Proving Ground (513)

[GateWorld]

DISCUSS ... PROVING GROUND EPISODE NUMBER - 513 While training cadets at a secret facility, O'Neill learns of a possible alien incursion at the S.G.C. -- and must take a group of raw cadets into a real battle situation. Visit the Episode Guide >>

[Sicarius]

OK, Tin Man had me fooled the first time I watched (it never occurred to me that we were watching duplicates), but I never believed this one was anything but a training exercise. How about you guys?

[Dramaqueen]

Originally Posted by Sicarius

but I never believed this one was anything but a training exercise. How about you guys?

I agree. I think it was pretty obvious that it was another training especially after they screwed the first one... still, Jack played his part pretty convincing. But I liked this episode, not my favourite in season 5 but still, I think it was interesting to see how they pick the new SG-Team members. Also liked to see Hailey again.

[Anubis]

This episode wasn't the greatest but it wasn't the worst. It's good how they convinced each other it was real

[Sicarius]

Interestingly, the cadet/rookie LT episodes stretch my military credulity a lot more than if Jack and Sam would run off and do the nasty for the weekend. I have a hard time believing the AF would assign anyone straight out of school to something as remotely important/sensitive as the SG program.

I was in the army for a few years and the only 2nd LTs I met that weren't clueless were the ones who had started out on the enlisted side of the house

[Asgard-VA]

Yeah, the idea of Golden Nuggets (I think that's what an AF 2nd Lt. is called) or new lieutenants from any other service being assigned to SG units seems a bit of a reach. You'd expect that most SG team members would be recruited from special forces or out of academia (archeologists).

I didn't get fooled by the "test" either, although I didn't see Hailey's involvement coming. Yep, wasn't a bad episode. Not my favorite in the season, but it was entertaining.

[Sarcazmo The Clown]

Personally I'm curious about what they made Hailey go through to get into the SGC, and I'm a bit dissapointed that Proving Ground was the last we saw of her.

[Rhydderch Hael]

Originally Posted by Asgard-VA

Yeah, the idea of Golden Nuggets (I think that's what an AF 2nd Lt. is called) or new lieutenants from any other service being assigned to SG units seems a bit of a reach. You'd expect that most SG team members would be recruited from special forces or out of academia (archeologists). ...

Sounds about right. I've also heard that the 2nd Lt. insignia referred to as "Butter Bars".

There's a fanfic scenario where an 2nd Lieutenant who recently graduated from the Academy got pushed into the Stargate program on the grace that she was selected to be an evacuee to the Alpha Site during the "Within the Serpent's Lair" crisis (being one of the best and the brightest, regardless of age or experience). Afterwards, she was retained to serve in the SG program after the Alpha Site refugees were recalled.

[Elwe Singollo]

Who thought the scene where Sam and Jack are talking about the recruits was funny?

[Dramaqueen]

I like the conversation a lot, maybe the best part of the ep, IMHO. I love Jacks comment on Hailey "Four foot nine fightin' machine" and the "I was never their age" line.

[Selmak]

I that guy that kept getting shot was funny

[AgentX]

Originally Posted by Sicarius

OK, Tin Man had me fooled the first time I watched (it never occurred to me that we were watching duplicates), but I never believed this one was anything but a training exercise. How about you guys?

Nope. Didn't fool me for a second, still didn't detract from me liking the episode. I enjoy episodes that show the hardships and what it takes to become what the cadets attain to be. Now if only Grace Park were to come back all would be well

[Selmak]

I thought it was real when jack switched the clip on his gun.

[SeaBee]

Nice to see the cadets. esp Hayleigh.

[Selmak]

It was nice to see that girl from prodigy again.

[norriski]

OK, some have referred to them as Cadets, but I believe that is incorrect, they were at least LT's and I don't remember they ranks being visible to the point where we could tell if they were 1st or 2nd Lt's....but they weren't cadets.....
Couple things that I found amusing was Daniel not turning off the Gou'ld voice thing after he'd "killed" everyone...
Also Jacks comment that he always knew that Daniel wanted that chair...then later on we see Daniel going on and on about how great the chair was....

[Erik Pasternak]

Originally Posted by norriski

OK, some have referred to them as Cadets, but I believe that is incorrect, they were at least LT's and I don't remember they ranks being visible to the point where we could tell if they were 1st or 2nd Lt's....but they weren't cadets.....
Couple things that I found amusing was Daniel not turning off the Gou'ld voice thing after he'd "killed" everyone...
Also Jacks comment that he always knew that Daniel wanted that chair...then later on we see Daniel going on and on about how great the chair was....

Just to solve the rank problem, they had just graduated from the Academy, so they were second lieutenants.

[Anubis]

Yeah, they would have been second or possibly first but not likely!

[Erik Pasternak]

Originally Posted by Anubis

Yeah, they would have been second or possibly first but not likely!

I think it's possible Elliot might have been a first lieutenant (but no one else) because he was the one in charge of their team and he was the first one to be placed on an SG team.

[Anubis]

Yeah, Elliot done a pretty decent job with his team and in the final training stage, he done well!