Stargate FLT Drive vs StarTrek FTL Drive

Hermes · #1 September 20th, 2005, 08:36 PM

I have a tech question, which is faster, a HyperDrive or a WarpDrive?

walterIsTheMan · #2 September 20th, 2005, 08:49 PM

hyperdrive definitely. prommie went over 1000 ly in "Prometheus", it'd take months to do that with warp drive. warp 9 is 1516 times the speed of light. thats over half a year to get 1000 ly

GuyFromOH · #3 September 20th, 2005, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Hermes

I have a tech question, which is faster, a HyperDrive or a WarpDrive?

I guess you're talking about Star Trek's Warp Drive.

Hyperdrive takes the ship out of normal space to travel, so although it would get you to your destination sooner, it's difficult to tell if it is really faster, since speed is distance/time, it actually contracts the distance necessary to travel between two points. (you could say a wormhole is the fastest, but the "speed" is walking speed...)

Warp drive is in normal space, even though the ships on StarTrek are enveloped in a "warp bubble" which allows them to "slide" through space faster than newtonian physics would say is possible.

Star Trek even had references to a slipstream drive in STV, which took the ship out of normal space, and naturally, they have wormholes, etc.

The answer you're probably looking for is: Hyperdrive

Giantevilhead · #4 September 20th, 2005, 10:28 PM

If you count the horrible Voyager episode "Threshold" Warp, otherwise Hyperdrive.

38_Minutes · #5 September 20th, 2005, 11:03 PM

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If you count the horrible Voyager episode "Threshold" Warp, otherwise Hyperdrive.

Yeah it was really weird when they started to turn into those pre-historic water mammals. WORST EPISODE EVER!!!

HAL · #6 September 21st, 2005, 05:27 AM

yep that episode was stupid and had so many plot holes dam startrek

but to stay on topic hyperdrive is faster

LORD MONK · #7 September 21st, 2005, 07:19 PM

Hyper.

Speed is calculated by distance and how long it took for you to get there meaning time.
It doesn't matter how you get there. It's distances traveled and how long it took to get there.

Mio · #8 September 21st, 2005, 08:07 PM

Hyperdrive. Asgard hyperdrives can hop between galaxies in minutes. It was supposed to take Voyager, what? 75 years to get a mere 70,000 lightyears? (3/4 of the width of our galaxy)

LORD MONK · #9 September 24th, 2005, 01:57 PM

I would think that Stargate ships go faster.

Zekk · #10 September 24th, 2005, 03:54 PM

Hyperdrives go WAY faster then warpdrives.

NowIWillDestroyAbydos · #11 September 24th, 2005, 04:10 PM

I'm going with Hyperdrive

newtrekker · #12 September 24th, 2005, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Hermes

I have a tech question, which is faster, a HyperDrive or a WarpDrive?

Hyperdrives are definitely faster as they go into subspace. Warp drive on the other hand creates a subspace bubble around the ship and essentially makes the ship go partially into subspace.

LORD MONK · #13 September 25th, 2005, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by newtrekker

Hyperdrives are definitely faster as they go into subspace. Warp drive on the other hand creates a subspace bubble around the ship and essentially makes the ship go partially into subspace.

So basically it is traveling fast but not in the hole bending the needle type of fast.

I am trying to understand.

It's not like bending the needle because that would be like being their like when you step through the stargate.
Isn't going into subspace the same thing as traveling in subspace? Please explain.

SlytherinGal · #14 September 26th, 2005, 02:08 AM

Hyperdrive! Definately! I mean even the name sounds like it goes faster than WarpDrive

SmallTimePerson · #15 September 26th, 2005, 05:40 AM

i think it is the hyper in it. BTW time diulation would be greater in hyper drive, meaning that you would live milenia longer than someone not in hyperdrive if you were to live at hyperdrive speed ur whole life

Three PhDs · #16 September 26th, 2005, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by newtrekker

Hyperdrives are definitely faster as they go into subspace. Warp drive on the other hand creates a subspace bubble around the ship and essentially makes the ship go partially into subspace.

Ah... subspace... makes anything work.

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Originally Posted by SmallTimePerson

i think it is the hyper in it. BTW time diulation would be greater in hyper drive, meaning that you would live milenia longer than someone not in hyperdrive if you were to live at hyperdrive speed ur whole life

Er, no. If time dilation was actually happening, the siege with the Wraith at the end of season 1 and beginning of season 2 would have been over thousands of years before the Daedalus showed up to help. Time dilation is therefore not happening.

tony · #17 September 26th, 2005, 07:48 AM

uhmm.. im really not sure any of yas are correct about that.. i took a Physics class in college and the teacher was a very well known Dr. of Physics and he explained once to us the theory of hyper space and warp drives from the shows "startrak and babalon 5" and he explained that hyper space was traveling faster than the speed of light (which is impossible he said of course) but if it was possible the only reason it would take you out of normal space is because you are traveling faster than the speed of light and its totally unpredictable because if your in hyper space for 5 years traveling over 50 years would has in the outside world of what we know as normal time. Now he explained that Warp speed was diffrent.. warp speed takes you from A to B by folding space and taking you through the points. which he explained was theoretically possible he showed it to us the same way that the movie "Event Horizen" showed it.. he took a piece of paper made the letter A at one side and the letter B at the other and he folded the paper and put a pen through it. unless he is incorrect which is possible too regardless of his tittle and training in the field.

walterIsTheMan · #18 September 26th, 2005, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by tony

uhmm.. im really not sure any of yas are correct about that.. i took a Physics class in college and the teacher was a very well known Dr. of Physics and he explained once to us the theory of hyper space and warp drives from the shows "startrak and babalon 5" and he explained that hyper space was traveling faster than the speed of light (which is impossible he said of course) but if it was possible the only reason it would take you out of normal space is because you are traveling faster than the speed of light and its totally unpredictable because if your in hyper space for 5 years traveling over 50 years would has in the outside world of what we know as normal time. Now he explained that Warp speed was diffrent.. warp speed takes you from A to B by folding space and taking you through the points. which he explained was theoretically possible he showed it to us the same way that the movie "Event Horizen" showed it.. he took a piece of paper made the letter A at one side and the letter B at the other and he folded the paper and put a pen through it. unless he is incorrect which is possible too regardless of his tittle and training in the field.

babylon 5 and event horizon are irrelevant since we're discussing stargate and star trek. just because two different shows say they have "hyper" drives does not make them the same thing. second, physics classes are also irrelevant as this is science fiction. i dont know why people keep posting in this anyway lol, as i used gateverse and trekverse "fact" to proove which was faster earlier

mindfire · #19 September 26th, 2005, 05:19 PM

[Hyperdrive]
After watching an episode of star trek voyager I was thinking how slow warp drive was compared to hyperdrive.

Three PhDs · #20 September 26th, 2005, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by tony

uhmm.. im really not sure any of yas are correct about that.. i took a Physics class in college and the teacher was a very well known Dr. of Physics and he explained once to us the theory of hyper space and warp drives from the shows "startrak and babalon 5" and he explained that hyper space was traveling faster than the speed of light (which is impossible he said of course) but if it was possible the only reason it would take you out of normal space is because you are traveling faster than the speed of light and its totally unpredictable because if your in hyper space for 5 years traveling over 50 years would has in the outside world of what we know as normal time. Now he explained that Warp speed was diffrent.. warp speed takes you from A to B by folding space and taking you through the points. which he explained was theoretically possible he showed it to us the same way that the movie "Event Horizen" showed it.. he took a piece of paper made the letter A at one side and the letter B at the other and he folded the paper and put a pen through it. unless he is incorrect which is possible too regardless of his tittle and training in the field.

Hyperspace is completely independent from bending spacetime. Warp isn't taking you through points either, it's like compressing the distance between two points and travelling it an less than c.