New Ground (319)

[GateWorld]

DISCUSS ... NEW GROUND EPISODE NUMBER - 319 The members of SG-1 are imprisoned on a planet and become pawns in a war of ideology. Visit the Episode Guide >>

[TechnoBoY]

I really really liked this episode. I dont know why, it was kind of mediocre but I loved it!

I really think they should bring back Nyan for a bit. I've been wondering about him since this ep. They could've at least mentioned him once in awhile.

[DannyFan]

I agree. I've wondered why they haven't brought Nyan back, too.

[Sicarius]

I like the set up for this episode, but think a little more could have been happening. Seems like most of it was Teal'c sitting in a cave and the others sitting in cages.

[Anubis]

Poor old Teal'c for hurting himself. Although that little eye device was cool

[KorbenDirewolf]

This is also one of the few episodes with more than one culture on the same world. Optricans and Bedrosians, I think they were.

[Selmak]

this episode was boring to me

[Selmak]

Those weapons were weird... staff weapon-like

[SeaBee]

I didn't really get into this ep, it was ok, but only just.

[Selmak]

They were kept in little cages right? like POW's

[MadJaffa]

I always wondered, why not play along?

Why not say, "Yes human life was created here, but the god moved US to another world."

It'd get them out of a sticky situation.

[cobraR478]

For some reason the word "Optrican" makes me think of the Transformers.

[Lord Zedd]

it was a good episode but still that they didn't believe SG-1 and poor Teal'c with his vision.He almost shot Jack when his eye sight returned

[Lord Zedd]

Originally Posted by cobraR478

For some reason the word "Optrican" makes me think of the Transformers.

Transformers????

[Lord Zedd]

What happend to the dude that came with them to Earth.Nyan or something like it?I thought he was a resurch assistant of Carter.Does he gets to leave the base?I wonder how many aliens that came through the gate now live on Earth?Cassie,Nyan,...

[Daniel's_twin]

Ultimately, this was an episode that went absolutely nowhere. I like it and all, but I won't be heartbroken if I miss it.

[Dana_Jeanne]

Originally Posted by Daniel's_twin

Ultimately, this was an episode that went absolutely nowhere. I like it and all, but I won't be heartbroken if I miss it.

This is one that I re-watch quite often. I'm not real sure why; there's the shallow part of me that likes it because Daniel looks so good in it, and I like the cages

Mainly though, I like the story and what it says about people and what they believe in. The "bad guys" whose country escapes me right now, weren't going to believe they were wrong even with the gate staring them in the face. It's faith taken to the nth degree.

It made me think, though, what would people of any one faith do right now if someone popped up and was able to PROVE that whomever they worship never existed? Would we put them in "cages" the way the bad guys did SG-1?

Nyan was very open-minded and accepted that his people were wrong about where they'd come from; he seemed to take it quite well, while the others didn't. Was it because his faith wasn't as strong as the others, or simply, that as a scientist he would be more open to things?

Or am simply reading too much into a simple TV episode?

Dana Jeanne

[GateGipsy]

you can never read too much into an episode of Stargate!

I find this episode hard to watch though, because of the incredibly pained expression on Daniel's face when he's in that cage.

I don't think that you could change anyone's mind if they believed in a religion. They would simply adapt, or read what they wanted into the situation. For example, many people thought that Darwin's ideas would be the end of christianity, after all it showed that we weren't uniquely created by god. However, many quite religious people enthusiastically took up Darwin's ideas because for them it proved that there was a god - that there must have been a creator behind it all to come up with something as complex as life. And in the bible, that we're created in God's image doesn't mean that there can be no other sentient life forms in the universe. Just that we alone have that special relationship with God. Not that this is what I think, just repeating what I've read.

[Daniel's_twin]

You're right. There are a lot of Christians out there who believe that God used evolution as his "laboratory" and threw everything together. But then they forget to take into consideration that everything written in the Bible is the true word of God, and what the Bible says is that the Earth was created in six days and on the seventh day he rested. And whatsmore, we keep on finding evidence that evolution couldn't have worked from the first cell of life before it died.

But we're not here for a theological dispute, otherwise a lot of people will wind up being offended and some people might get into trouble. I'm going to reaspond to what DJ asked two posts ago. Yeah, I think Nyan was just more open-minded and not afraid to admit that he was wrong. He described finding out that he was wrong as "Just as exciting as if I was right" because he was a scientist. He's one of the reasons why I still like it.

[Dana_Jeanne]

Originally Posted by GateGipsy

you can never read too much into an episode of Stargate!
I find this episode hard to watch though, because of the incredibly pained expression on Daniel's face when he's in that cage. .

Well, you have to keep in mind that I'm simply a big old hurt/comfort slut and therefor I like the pained expression...

I *think* this episode was the first one where we actually saw Daniel tortured for information wasn't it? It must have been difficult for him, with all his enthusiasm for meeting new cultures, to have this one refuse to listen to them or believe them, and then to start torturing them on top of it all.

And hard for Jack, too, to watch his team mates go through it, knowing he can't do anything to stop it. Especially since he's the one who's supposed to keep them safe.

Yes, I know these aren't real people

Dana Jeanne