Into the Fire (301)

GateWorld · #1 April 28th, 2004, 12:15 AM

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INTO THE FIRE
EPISODE NUMBER - 301

O'Neill, Carter and Jackson must escape Hathor's clutches, while Teal'c tries to raise a Jaffa army on Chulak. General Hammond must take desperate measures to rescue the team. (Part 2 of 2)

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-Major Woody · #2 May 12th, 2004, 11:48 PM

I only have one thing to say about this ep., "YEE-HAW!"

KorbenDirewolf · #3 May 13th, 2004, 06:02 PM

A very interesting show.. The future of the SGC? And Hathor's forces seem to be.. erm.. not really good at their job.

SeaBee · #4 June 12th, 2004, 04:24 AM

Most cool, the gate-sized fighter. I think that should be used again. It could be kept off world, say at the Alpha site, and sent through the gate when a bit of close air support could help a pinned team.

Crazedwraith · #5 June 12th, 2004, 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by SeaBee

Most cool, the gate-sized fighter. I think that should be used again. It could be kept off world, say at the Alpha site, and sent through the gate when a bit of close air support could help a pinned team.

I find the needle threader and odd concept, especially since we've seen death gliders fly throogh (in active) gates before in "Singularity" and in every season 1-3 montage title sequence.

Perhaps the Regular death gliders don't have the manuveuring presice and fire control of the needle threader making it had to fly through wormholes with smacking into the ground afterwards

bcmilco · #6 June 12th, 2004, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Crazedwraith

I find the needle threader and odd concept, especially since we've seen death gliders fly throogh (in active) gates before in "Singularity" and in every season 1-3 montage title sequence.

No, they showed a Deathglider through the stargate, but it didn't fly through the gate, it flew over the gate. A deathglider's wings are too wide to fit through a gate.

Crazedwraith · #7 June 12th, 2004, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by bcmilco

No, they showed a Deathglider through the stargate, but it didn't fly through the gate, it flew over the gate. A deathglider's wings are too wide to fit through a gate.

Really? I thought there were tow one went over one went through.
Maybe I'm just seeing things.

bcmilco · #8 June 12th, 2004, 07:21 PM

Okay I went back and watch it again, and you were right.

oops!

That's really funny because I still think they're too big to fit through the stargate.

Of course Teal'c also refers to Nirti as a 'he' so maybe they were still getting some of the details worked out.

langdonboom · #9 June 25th, 2004, 10:46 AM

you know, I don't know why I thought this, but I had always assumed when I heard of the "puddle jumpers" that will appear in Atlantis that they would turn out to be the kind of ship that Bratac and Teal'c and Hammond found buried in the forest of Hathor's world which I believe Bratac said had been buried for hundreds of years....

It did "jump puddles" if I recall (they "threaded the needle" with it), and we haven't seen any other Goa'uld ships like it before or since....

SO WHAT WAS THAT SHIP? I guess its not Ancient tech like I thought, just old Goa'uld tech or some other race's tech they lifted, eh?

Okay, I just went to scifi's episode guide and they refer to it rather cryptically as "an ancient Death Glider". Maybe of an old design. So its ancient, just not Ancient. Huh.

Thoughts?

KorbenDirewolf · #10 June 25th, 2004, 02:13 PM

I think it was said that since an extremely high level of skill was necessary to fly the gate gliders the Goa'uld simply abandoned the idea, rather than spend the time training their Jaffa to use the technology.

Selmak · #11 July 10th, 2004, 10:44 PM

I've said it before and I'll say it again... That evil chick is back.

Selmak · #12 July 15th, 2004, 09:17 PM

I don't get it... didn't see explode in a bath tub full of goa'uld.

Selmak · #13 July 26th, 2004, 09:09 PM

Any help... I defiantly though she exploded

SeaBee · #14 September 17th, 2004, 03:03 PM

carefull examination of the scene will reveal that she actually climbs out of the burning bath, wrapped in some sort of shield, and exits the room thru an exit behind it.

Uncle Dick · #15 September 25th, 2004, 11:30 PM

This episode has some of the coolest action sequences of the series with a massive SG team fighting multiple Jaffa targets through the Gou'ald base, Tok'ra tunnels and on the planet's surface. Truly, they do not make them as they once did.

Dead Jawa · #16 January 7th, 2005, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SeaBee

Most cool, the gate-sized fighter. I think that should be used again. It could be kept off world, say at the Alpha site, and sent through the gate when a bit of close air support could help a pinned team.

That does bring up an interesting question. What did they do with the fighter? Maybe Bra'tac and the rebel Jaffa are using it?

Im_just_guessing · #17 March 2nd, 2005, 07:58 PM

Most importantly, Oneil should have a scar in the back of his neck. Which means they no longer can tell if he's been goa'ulded or not.

And they never seem to talk about this in later episodes. Explain.

SilverRider · #18 March 3rd, 2005, 08:19 PM

a goa'uld pressence can be felt by other goa'ulds. Which is why Hathor's IC didn't believe Jack. That Hathor was dead.

Chaka's_Mum · #19 March 4th, 2005, 01:57 AM

This is a totally fab episode. That's one heck of a lot of effort on Hathor's part to find out the state of play in the Galaxy, though. I can't believe her resources are too extensive yet (as far as we could see it was one base, and a bunch of jaffa), so she was clearly expecting to get a lot out of her investment!

Baun · #20 March 4th, 2005, 02:16 PM

this is my favourite episode, excellent !!