The Tok'ra, Part 2 (212)

GateWorld · #1 April 28th, 2004, 12:03 AM

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THE TOK'RA, PART 2
EPISODE NUMBER - 212

While SG-1 tries to form an alliance with the Tok'ra, a spy betrays the rebels to the Goa'uld. Jacob Carter finds that the Tok'ra may be his only hope of survival. (Part 2 of 2)

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Nolamom · #2 May 7th, 2004, 09:59 PM

One of my all-time favorite episodes. Not only the very sexy (albeit ill) Jacob, but the adorable Martouf as well. Anywho - the whole storyline of the Tok'ra is fun.
Nmom

JakeDeuxPointZero · #3 May 7th, 2004, 11:28 PM

Yeah... definitely a classic episode that began our relationship with one of our greatest allies.

Sela · #4 May 8th, 2004, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Nolamom

Not only the very sexy (albeit ill) Jacob, but the adorable Martouf as well.
Nmom

I'm glad to see that I am not the only one who would jump Sam's dad if I had half a chance. He is very very sexy. I guess I just love the seasoned military types.

KorbenDirewolf · #5 May 9th, 2004, 08:16 PM

greatest allies? I guess you could call them that, but they've not really done all that much. Be better off without them.

angsty_otaku · #6 May 10th, 2004, 03:45 PM

the ep. was a great way to introduce a new allie and help develop more storylines :-p plus the characters that were introduced have been integral to the stargate universe...go jacob! go martouf! (:-/)

Jeff O'Connor · #7 May 19th, 2004, 02:18 PM

Especially Jacob. Jacob/Selmak is/are my favorite guest stars whenever they show up. They rock!

Selmak · #8 July 10th, 2004, 10:33 PM

It was cool when Jacob blended with Selmak.

Selmak · #9 July 15th, 2004, 08:18 PM

Holly Hanna!

SeaBee · #10 July 20th, 2004, 05:29 PM

Good ep, but how is Jacobs disappearance explained to the wages clerk and the guy who pays out the pension?

KorbenDirewolf · #11 July 21st, 2004, 02:01 AM

I'm guessing that he "died of cancer".

Selmak · #12 July 26th, 2004, 08:40 PM

In future episode he retained his position as general (seth) and reunited with his son (seth)... it wouldn't make sense to say that he died.

Asgard Buddy · #13 August 17th, 2004, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Selmak

Holly Hanna!

It was just so much fun seeing his reactions to everything.

And it's great that Selmak (the symbiote, not the forum user) has such a great sense of humor and it's quite obvious that they're going to enjoy their many years together.

Also, I really liked it when Sam got to talk to Martouf and learn more about the mysterious Jolinar that had posessed her. And boy am I glad that Martouf explained the whole thing and how it was they were in love. But then at the same time it's really sad that he lost her.

LMichelle · #14 October 8th, 2004, 04:16 PM

I just saw this ep this week. I knew Jacob became a Tok'ra, but didn't know why. I mean that's a lot of explain to someone all at once. Sam was offering up her father pretty quickly as an answer to the Tok'ra's problems. However, she was desperate and didn't want to lose her dad. I understand. I didn't want to lose mine either.

Anyway, very emotional scenes between Sam and Jacob. Amanda and Carmen did a good job.

Lisa Michelle

Major Fischer · #15 October 8th, 2004, 04:20 PM

I rather like Selmak's previous host too...

Cpn. Chris(tine) Bowman · #16 October 21st, 2004, 09:17 PM

I loved the Tok'ra two parter. It was really interesting plot wise and all.

I love Martouf

Spiderman · #17 October 23rd, 2004, 05:48 AM

Great episode

I'll have to see it again sometime because it's been a while when I saw that episode again.I'll watch it tonight

zats · #18 October 30th, 2004, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Sela

I'm glad to see that I am not the only one who would jump Sam's dad if I had half a chance. He is very very sexy. I guess I just love the seasoned military types.

I am so TOTALLY staying out of this one...

ShimmeringStar · #19 February 28th, 2005, 02:43 PM

MF, I like Selmak's host too. Wise, but very humorous. Too bad there wasn't time for more banter between her and Jacob. Jacob (to Selmak): "You don't look so good." Selmak's retort: "You are no vision of beauty yourself, sir!"

Even though this was a 2 parter some parts (like above) seemed rushed (15 seconds of this backstory, 15 seconds of this present arc, 15 more seconds to introduce a future arc)... but it was nice to have Jacob admit he was a pain in the bottom and that he was proud of Sam and her accomplishments.

Chaka's_Mum · #20 March 4th, 2005, 02:53 AM

I agree. It would have been interesting to have a bit more time to see how the blending affected both Jacob and Selmak. We do pick things up a bit as the episode (and later seasons) progresses, but it would have been interesting to find out things like, how do they communicate with one another directly? Is it through some form of connection in the brain? I suppose it must be, but it would be fascinating to know how much of each minds' personal thoughts are directly broadcasted to the other. I'm not sure that some of the things I think about are suitable for the ears of another...

Plus, at the end of the ep, Jacob says that he knows that his mouth is moving, but he doesn't hear the words - I suppose Selmak teaches him how to listen to what's coming out of his mouth when Selmak's doing the talking.

It just would've been nice to have time to see some of this learning curve, I guess - even though a lot of it would have been invisible because it was going on largely in Jacob's head.

Having said that, I thoroughly enjoyed this episode (and part 1) because we finally got to meet the Tok'ra after hearing about them from Jolinar, and we get to hear a bit more of Jolinar's history, too.