Prisoners (203)

GateWorld · #1 April 27th, 2004, 11:54 PM

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PRISONERS
EPISODE NUMBER - 203

SG-1 is put on trial and exiled to a prison world, where a woman maintains a strange control over her fellow prisoners.

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SeaBee · #2 May 24th, 2004, 06:03 PM

This was a good episode, a good plot and well acted. The only thing that slghtly spoilt it for me were the smoking boots, which seemed a little silly.

Selmak · #3 July 10th, 2004, 10:32 PM

I like how that nice woman turns out to be real evil.

AgentX · #4 July 12th, 2004, 01:13 AM

The episode was a good one before the ending which revealed Linea's true persona. Then it became really good. Although there were signs she wasn't as benign as she seemed, it was a surprise just how evil she was.

Selmak · #5 July 15th, 2004, 08:11 PM

Was this the first instance of manual dial?

Selmak · #6 July 26th, 2004, 08:52 PM

I liked how she was revisited in a future episode.

KorbenDirewolf · #7 July 27th, 2004, 02:57 PM

I wonder... Hedante seems to be a very secure prison.. Wonder if it could be used for other purposes than those of the Taldor.

Asgard Buddy · #8 August 17th, 2004, 09:09 AM

So those are the smoking boots they're auctioning off! Here on ebay So far they're going for $50

I liked the episode but Linea just freaks me out! She's too much of a crazy lady.

Bagpuss · #9 August 27th, 2004, 08:57 AM

Yep, the same ones !

A bit of a "Loony Toons" moment,when that happened.The inmate who grabbed the boots and kept trying to ingratiate himself to SG-1,was freaky.
Squalid situation,loads of ick factor.That gruel slop didn't even look edible !

Linea was IMO,very well-played.Nicely machiavellian.

IMO,the SGC personnel almost deserved to be conned.To me,it was fairly obvious Linea was nastier than she seemed.

It didn't seem to even occur to Carter, that her new Science-buddy might be in prison for a good reason.This despite the obvious power and control Linnea held ,over a prison full of desperate codemned convicts.

Overall I like this episode,though,as there was plenty to hold my attention.

Bagpuss · #10 August 27th, 2004, 09:02 AM

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Was this the first instance of manual dial?

I think the first time we saw that "on-screen" was in "Torment Of Tantalus" in Season 1.

Dani347 · #11 August 27th, 2004, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by F.H.BAGPUSS

IMO,the SGC personnel almost deserved to be conned.To me,it was fairly obvious Linea was nastier than she seemed.

It didn't seem to even occur to Carter, that her new Science-buddy might be in prison for a good reason.This despite the obvious power and control Linnea held ,over a prison full of desperate codemned convicts.

Overall I like this episode,though,as there was plenty to hold my attention.

Just have to say that Daniel had some idea. He tried to say that maybe it wasn't a good idea to take Linnea with them, because they didn't know what she was there for. And, they totally dismissed his comments.

But, I liked the episode, too.

Bagpuss · #12 August 27th, 2004, 03:12 PM

Arg ! I forgot about that....and you are so right, Dani !

Major Clanger · #13 August 29th, 2004, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Dani347

Just have to say that Daniel had some idea. He tried to say that maybe it wasn't a good idea to take Linnea with them, because they didn't know what she was there for. And, they totally dismissed his comments.

But, I liked the episode, too.

That's one thing that I don't like about the ep. At the beginning Jack is very Prison Savvy and so on - but he doesn't comment that the Queen Bee in a prison is likely to be a very long term prisoner (ie. have been sent down for something quite heinous) and also likely to be the one most able to scare and hurt the others.

The ep is a good illustration of two great things about Stargate though. One is the whole "we don't leave our people behind" aspect, and the other is the fact that sometimes they have to do deals with bad guys when they don't have many options.

Major Clanger · #14 August 29th, 2004, 05:43 AM

btw, Dani... if I'm a mod does that mean I can tell you to shut up and accept things?

Perhaps you could explain that concept to the Gruesome Twosome

Dani347 · #15 September 8th, 2004, 02:03 PM

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btw, Dani... if I'm a mod does that mean I can tell you to shut up and accept things?

Perhaps you could explain that concept to the Gruesome Twosome

Well, I hope you wouldn't. But, as a mod, you have the authority to say what can and can't be posted. Other people don't.

Uncle Dick · #16 September 19th, 2004, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Major Clanger

At the beginning Jack is very Prison Savvy and so on - but he doesn't comment that the Queen Bee in a prison is likely to be a very long term prisoner (ie. have been sent down for something quite heinous) and also likely to be the one most able to scare and hurt the others.

It's later established (in "A Matter of Time", I believe) that he was incarcerated in Iraq (and I'm assuming that's the prison experience he was referring to in this episode). I think it's unlikely that O'Neill ever met anyone like Linnea in Iraq, and I don't think this episode necessarily establishes that she was a long time occupant of the prison.

At any rate, this was a great show. I wish the payoff had been better than "Past and Present", though.

Spiderman · #17 September 19th, 2004, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by F.H.BAGPUSS

I think the first time we saw that "on-screen" was in "Torment Of Tantalus" in Season 1.

I think so too that it was that episode.I'll try to watch it again tonight

SeaBee · #18 September 19th, 2004, 12:48 PM

That was the episode where they used lightning to power up the gate.

Dani347 · #19 September 20th, 2004, 02:28 PM

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It's later established (in "A Matter of Time", I believe) that he was incarcerated in Iraq (and I'm assuming that's the prison experience he was referring to in this episode). I think it's unlikely that O'Neill ever met anyone like Linnea in Iraq, and I don't think this episode necessarily establishes that she was a long time occupant of the prison.

I don't think it would be that hard to at least think that she might be in prison because she did something wrong. And, I think her being in charge kind of suggested that she had been there long enough to gain the prisoners respect (or fear)

Uncle Dick · #20 September 20th, 2004, 07:15 PM

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I don't think it would be that hard to at least think that she might be in prison because she did something wrong.

The judiciary body on the planet was quite harsh, sending SG-1 to prison for no reason whatsoever and sending the blind dude off to a life sentence for stealing a bit of food. I'm sure there were many exiled to the prison planet for minor crimes.

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And, I think her being in charge kind of suggested that she had been there long enough to gain the prisoners respect (or fear)

The blind dude feared her the moment he saw her because he recognized her as the "Destroyer of Worlds". I assume that most of other prisoners would have a similar reaction as soon as they saw her (or heard about her crimes from those who had firsthand knowledge).