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TheScorpionsSting
May 24th, 2004, 03:23 PM
Why is it that SGC has become more like scavengers than Inventors. Most of the Technology that Earth has was borrowed from some other civilization and reconfigured. I don't like how they search for advanced technology instead trying to create it on their own. How does this make them any different than the Goa'ul'd? Sooner or later they might just try to take it by force. It would be nice to see fair amount of technology that wasn't based on someone elses. Wouldn't it be nice if we at least had one powerful piece of technology that rivaled most of the others and was based solely on ideas from Earth?

Jprime
May 24th, 2004, 04:23 PM
Its called Ketchup Chips

SGSlugger
May 24th, 2004, 06:32 PM
Various spoilers...




Well we have reversed-engineered the basic technologies that are behind the Promethous and the X-302s. We also constructed our own fleet of F-302s, and are in development of the BC-303s.

Don't forget that Felger was working on that prototype plasma rifle. His Avenger had a unique idea.

Our projectile weapons are a force to be rivalled with. We can easily take out Jaffa, Replicators...etc.

Isn't that kinda ironic that we are adapting some of the ways of the Goa'uld?

dfin25
May 24th, 2004, 06:47 PM
Wouldn't it be nice if we at least had one powerful piece of technology that rivaled most of the others and was based solely on ideas from Earth?

Seems to me our P90 fits your categories. It is superior to staff weapons and with it we can waste replicators, something neither Asgard or Goa'uld can do. Also, think how much more deadly the Jaffa could be if they had radios. ;)

Mio
May 24th, 2004, 07:02 PM
Well, everything on the X303 and X302, save for the asgard gifts, are at least only reverse engineered, and human made....at least we didn't go around pulling crystals from death gliders.

Our Anti-Super-Soldier gun is pretty nice.....we only used an ancient healing device to see what we had to combat. you can't say we copied it, it's like engineering a bullet proof vest from a gun.

TheScorpionsSting
May 24th, 2004, 07:39 PM
Yes but the Prometheus uses Asgard and Goa'uld Tech while the X-302 is just more or less based on the basics of a death glider design. And yes I know the Goa'uld stoled mostly all of their tech and maybe even from other Humans but probably not from the current race on Earth. While reverse engineering is nice it's still just taking somebodies work and modifying it as your own, you never came up with idea or sub parts that make that technology.

I guess we got the projectile weapons to show for; seems primative but they are effective. And as for the plasma gun and Avenger, Felger needs to quit day dreaming and make it work. I would love to see an episode devoted to a new powerful technology solely from the minds of the Tau'ri!

Asgard-VA
May 24th, 2004, 08:42 PM
You can also add the guided missiles on the F-302s, the unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs), and the unmanned combat aerial vehicles (UCAVs) to the list of unique earth-based weapons/technologies (the UAV really isn't a weapon so much as a recon vehicle).

Besides the weapons, SG units are far better equipped than the average Jaffa. For example, the use of radios is of great help to the SG units in coordinating attacks. The SG units also have access to night vision googles and much more simple things like compasses and watches.

Medically, the Tau'ri seem to more advanced than the Goa'uld in certain areas. While the Goa'uld have the sarcophogi, the hand thingies, and symbiotes to help healing, there seems to be little to diagnose problems with average citizens (for example, Rya'c and the scarlet fever problem). The earth technology probably helps to save a lot of its people that wouldn't be saved on Gou'ald planets.

Earth is probably borrowing so much technology because its so far behind in so many areas. When you are trying to play "catch up," you usually copy things that look cool and seem to work for other folks. But just as important as having cool technologies is how you use them. The SGC crowd probably uses the technology at their disposal in much more creative ways than the Goa'uld----and that helps them overcome superior firepower in many cases.

petzke_42
May 24th, 2004, 11:22 PM
Its called Ketchup Chips

Those are actually pretty good....had them when I was up in Canada like a month ago.

KokiriChild
May 25th, 2004, 01:12 AM
Its called Ketchup Chips
Yeah, they rule... Wander what flavour the Goa'uld would like? Maybe we could poisen their chip supply?

Mio
May 25th, 2004, 02:26 AM
Ketchup chips are disgusting....but that's just my personal opinion.

Tok'Ra Hostess
May 25th, 2004, 05:05 AM
Why is it that SGC has become more like scavengers than Inventors. Most of the Technology that Earth has was borrowed from some other civilization and reconfigured. I don't like how they search for advanced technology instead trying to create it on their own. How does this make them any different than the Goa'ul'd? Sooner or later they might just try to take it by force. It would be nice to see fair amount of technology that wasn't based on someone elses. Wouldn't it be nice if we at least had one powerful piece of technology that rivaled most of the others and was based solely on ideas from Earth?

Tigers are near the top of the food chain because they are very good at what they do, but they are not at the very top of said chain, precisely because they very good - at only one thing.

Humans are at the very top because we are very good at many things, including adopting parasitical behavoir when the need arises, and no matter what we are - for we can be hunters, gatherers, scavengers, cannibals, symbiotic, parasitic, and so on - we are very creative within all of these realms.

We fight fire with water (innovative, original design and thinking) but we also fight fire with fire (using the enemy's tech and tactics to our advantage).

mad_designer
May 26th, 2004, 09:48 AM
Actually, we did create one piece of technology: The F-302 and BC-303's hyperdrive generator. While the principles are based on the goa'uld versions, they are completely different. Remember that the F-302 is the only ship its size that has a hyperspace generator. We used the principles the goa'uld version uses than created our own version using Naquadria.

Anubis
May 26th, 2004, 09:54 AM
Not everything we have made is designed by ourselves but we try our best


People seem to forget that the SGC's goal is to obtain alien technology to help defend Earth

anubis3355
May 26th, 2004, 01:54 PM
Those Super Soldier Guns werent made by the Tauri,,,,,,,,,,,,,they were mostly made by the Tok'ra so that is not an entirely earth based weapond........one though is those super sharp dart things to knock off the super soldiers......

Andy867
May 28th, 2004, 11:32 AM
Well, we did make our own "DHD" so to speak which was unaffected by the altered Avenger 2.0 virus. Plus we developed the iris which protects us from unwelcome visitors. so those 2 enhancements alone have helped on many occassions. Like if it wasn't for the iris, the SGC would have been flooded on more than one occassion with lethal doses of radiation and heat. Our P90s are also effective. Also with the help of the people from "The Learning Curve", Sam was able to build a naquadah generator that has helped before. Plus our idea of sending probes to other planets was actually a completely new idea that no goa'uld had done until Anubis. Plus we are still relatively young in terms of technology when compared to races such as the Asgard, Goa'uld/Tok'ra, and others like the Nox, but we are fairing better than most races we encounter, exceptions being the Tollan and Aschen.

Bast
May 28th, 2004, 11:51 AM
Most of our technologies are inspired by Nature, If birds never existed we would have had the idea too fly , Nore would we have had a hints at how too make wings that are aerodynamic.

Ugly Pig
May 28th, 2004, 02:49 PM
I don't like how they search for advanced technology instead trying to create it on their own. How does this make them any different than the Goa'ul'd?
It's not the copying of other races technologies that makes the Goa'uld bad, it's pretending to be gods, enslaving people and all that kind of crap that does it.

As for why Earth can't make the same kind of high-tech stuff from scratch as the Goa'uld and other advanced races can; it's simple: We're just not that advanced yet. Remember, this isn't Star Trek... Stargate takes place here and now, in our time. How realistic would it be if they all of a sudden could make all kinds of amazing technological marvels without incorporating alien technology? Heck, I thought the Prometheus was a stretch.

Andy867
May 28th, 2004, 04:36 PM
One you thing you forget is that the way the SGC is getting all this new technology is through an alien device, being the stargate. If it wasnt for the stargate, we would have no knowledge of the Goa'uld, the Ancients, the Asgard and all of the technology that follows. Which would mean no Prometheus, no F-302, no Naquadah generator or particle beam accelerator *which we actually did make on our own since the SGC never got to see how Sokar's accelerator worked or was configured.