How come they always dial the right gate on the Earth???

[veneticuss]

How come they always dial the right gate on the Earth???
The coordinates are obviously same, so how come they dial the right one.
I mean the US and Russian one. ??

[the_fours]

How come they always dial the right gate on the Earth???
The coordinates are obviously same, so how come they dial the right one.
I mean the US and Russian one. ??

because the russians had the dhd their gate became the dominant one one earth so all they needed to do was gate in and out just before or after the sgc did for full detailsw on this watch watergate and 48 hours also touchstone touches on this subject.

[omnian]

If the Russian one were to be connected to the DHD then it would become the dominant gate on Earth and all arrivals would go through there. I think the SGC's dialling computer acts a DHD until a proper one is connected.....then it's negated.

[veneticuss]

because the russians had the dhd their gate became the dominant one one earth so all they needed to do was gate in and out just before or after the sgc did for full detailsw on this watch watergate and 48 hours also touchstone touches on this subject.

And what about before the second gate was found in antarctica?

[KorbenDirewolf]

Simple. The second gate didn't exist until it was found. :)

[Whitster]

And what about before the second gate was found in antarctica?

Because the DHD in Antartica was out of power/malfunctioning(i don't remember exactly) and the wormhole was only diverted there due to a problem with the Chyenne Mt gate. I believe anyway.... :S

[KokiriChild]

The Russian's have the Giza DHD, so the Giza Gate + Dialing Computer make it dominant, until the Antarctic gate was linked to the DHD and then that became the dominant one.

Why didn't all wormholes pass through the Antarctic gate initially? The only thing I can think of is that the Giza gate was the primary gate and automatically over-ruled the wormhole's direction to target it instead, until that was the gate was struck by a power surge and they ended up in Antarctica

[veneticuss]

Still it doesnt make sense to me :(

[Teal'c]

Still it doesnt make sense to me :(
Well, it's been explained, I don't see why not :P

The wormhole connects to the Gate is the SGC because when Russia had the gate they kept the DHD disconnected. The wormholes went to the Gate in the SGC because it was domenant without a DHD.... (being the original gate on Earth)

[veneticuss]

So the dominance plays a big role?

[KokiriChild]

Yes, whichever is the most dominant gate will get the wormhole.

[veneticuss]

I see

[Thoth]

The Russian's have the Giza DHD, so the Giza Gate + Dialing Computer make it dominant, until the Antarctic gate was linked to the DHD and then that became the dominant one.

Why didn't all wormholes pass through the Antarctic gate initially? The only thing I can think of is that the Giza gate was the primary gate and automatically over-ruled the wormhole's direction to target it instead, until that was the gate was struck by a power surge and they ended up in Antarctica

It's not that the Giza gate automatically overwrites the Antarctic gate before Solitudes. The Antartic DHD was inoperable and Sam fixed in Solitudes, so it never received the wormhole. However, when a power surge hit our gate, it was automaticallly redirected to the Antarctic gate.

So, when the Giza gate was buried to keep the goa'uld out, it is possible that if the goa'uld dialed Earth they would have come through in Antarctic and unless they brought a goa'uld engineeer to fix the DHD they couln't have got back. Mmmm. Maybe all those people who died while exploring weren't killed by starvation/cold, they were killed by the constant flow of Jaffa trying to find warmth. ;)

[KokiriChild]

That was what I was getting at, when I said "The Antarctic gate was linked to the DHD", I should've said "a working DHD". Sorry.

[Thoth]

Just posted, realised something, don't like editing...so here's another post.

Doesn't that mean that they have another DHD. They have the Russian one which was destroyed. But it was only destroyed because the control crystal was destroyed...was it. So why not just take the master crystal from the Antarctic DHD and put it in the Giza DHD and keep it for themselves.

And even if the Russian DHD isn't salvagable, you could just take the Antarctic DHD and put it in place of the dialling computer saving a third of the energy or whatever Sam said in Heroes.

[KokiriChild]

Didn't the PSUCrystal for the DHD in Antarctica run out?

[Bakjuh]

Simple. The second gate didn't exist until it was found. :)

Forgive me as i just woke up and i'm not thinking straight yet but...

How can the second gate not exist if it was there all along? heh

It's like saying, well, we just found a new gate, but 5 minutes ago it didnt exist yet. heh ;)

[veneticuss]

???

[hezie99]

its one of those things that is missed.

my view is while our computer is connected it acts as the primary gate cause it acts like a dhd but then that doesnt account for antartica because sam did try to dial out and it did work but obviously the POO was same place

[KokiriChild]

Simple. The second gate didn't exist until it was found. :)
So did exist:P

[veneticuss]

So another question.. Why did in the Solitude the SGC gate shaked, when usually it does not, because they have installed the anti-vibration device. Isnt it odd?

[veneticuss]

Well because usually it does not.

[KokiriChild]

The SGC didn't shake because of the dialling sequence, it was because of an Earthquake caused when the gate on Antarctica was opened again

[Dramaqueen]

I think the Giza Stargate could the dominat one, no matter if it's connected to the DHD or the SGC dialing computer. I don't know if I got this right, but when Sam tried to dial out with the antarctica DHD, the gate couldn't establish a wormhole to earth because they were already on earth, and not because the DHD was broken (at least I think so). All this doesn't make sense, if the Russians were able to salvage the Giza gate from the ocean after what happend in Small Victories... If they connected it to the Giza DHD they would've had the dominant Gate for like a moth or whatever they said in Watergate. So maybe it's the SGC dialing computer which makes the gate dominat. I'm still confused... :S

[veneticuss]

Good point. Lets say this: The Russians did make about 7 missions and all crew always came thruogh the right gate. Both SGC teams and russian teams. so ...??

[Teal'c]

Well because usually it does not.
You think you could stop this spamming? There is an edit button for a reason, if you feel like adding to your comment. And posts like "???" and "...." don't serve much purpose.

[/unauthorisedmodding] :P

[Mio]

My two cents.

The DHD in Antarctica was obviously a beta version. The power doesn't run out on the new ones. The ancients probably made it so that any other dialing computer of any kind would instantly override it. This probably includes the SGC Dialing Computer, since it does supply power and coordinates to the gate.

[mad_designer]

I think the Idea is that the DHD, any NORMAL DHD, naturaly overrides the SGC's dialing computer for safety reasons. Remember, Its mentioned that the dialing computer lacks alot of safety features that the DHD posses's, so the DHD kinda like turns on the electricity to get the wormhole to use the gate its attached to because its safer. It is mention ALOT that if a stargate, any stargate, is hooked up to a dhd, then it will override the SGC's gate (that was the reason we where so cooperative with the russians, if we pissed them off, they would simply hook up their gate to the DHD and the sgc would be useless) Daniel himself said in 48 hours that if they could buy the DHD from the russians it would "prevent them from ever holding their stargate/dhd over us".

And for those idiots (no offence indended) who didn't get the joke Turning on the elecricity refers to one of the ways that fishermen get WORMs to come to surface so they can capture them and use as bait.

[KokiriChild]

You think you could stop this spamming? There is an edit button for a reason, if you feel like adding to your comment. And posts like "???" and "...." don't serve much purpose.

[/unauthorisedmodding] :PBut how else is he gonna get a high post count? :P

[Teal'c]

But how else is he gonna get a high post count? :P
Touché ;)

[KokiriChild]

... ??? !!! <insert some more spam>, and not to go off-topic "... because they do!"

[veneticuss]

lol :) ... ??? !!!

[KokiriChild]

??? Wtf ???

[Dramaqueen]

Good point. Lets say this: The Russians did make about 7 missions and all crew always came thruogh the right gate. Both SGC teams and russian teams. so ...??
I just watched Watergate again. Dr. Markov said, that the Giza Gate which they were able to recover from the ocean would supercede the SGC gate as long as the DHD was connected to it, so they only kept it connected when they needed it to prevent any crossovers. So the Giza Gate (connected to the DHD) is the dominant one on earth...

[veneticuss]

Really.? I thought It was the antarctica one, because it is older.
Isn't it maybe because the SGC does not use an DHD?

[earck]

The wormhole connects to the Gate is the SGC because when Russia had the gate they kept the DHD disconnected. The wormholes went to the Gate in the SGC because it was domenant without a DHD.... (being the original gate on Earth)I agree about the dominance however the Giza gate was probably not the original gate. The Antarctic gate is probably the original gate hence finding remains of the ancients there. Ra brought the Giza gate, but the ancients already had arctic gate. Also it was there longer because the DHD ran out of power.

[earck]

So another question.. Why did in the Solitude the SGC gate shaked, when usually it does not, because they have installed the anti-vibration device. Isnt it odd?
The SGC gate used to shake a lot in the movie and the pilot, but they installed dampeners to fix that. The Arctic gate had no such dampeners and therefore shook enough to be noticed on a sizemometer(spelling?). The shaking happened exactly the same time the SGC gate seemed to light up and they pinpointed exactly where the second gate was.

[earck]

I think the Giza Stargate could the dominat one, no matter if it's connected to the DHD or the SGC dialing computer. I don't know if I got this right, but when Sam tried to dial out with the antarctica DHD, the gate couldn't establish a wormhole to earth because they were already on earth, and not because the DHD was broken (at least I think so). All this doesn't make sense, if the Russians were able to salvage the Giza gate from the ocean after what happend in Small Victories... If they connected it to the Giza DHD they would've had the dominant Gate for like a moth or whatever they said in Watergate. So maybe it's the SGC dialing computer which makes the gate dominat. I'm still confused... :S
Her theory was that it had the same POO but I still think that the real reason is because it ran out of power. Or, both are true. She couldn't dial out because of the lack of power and it wouldn't have worked anyway if she tried.

She must have tried dialing some other planet besides earth too and it didn't work so I am sticking by my out of power theory.

[veneticuss]

Maybe she didnt try any other address because she didnt remembered any...

[Matt G]

Bear in mind that they didn't realise that they were on Earth.

[Teal'c]

I agree about the dominance however the Giza gate was probably not the original gate. The Antarctic gate is probably the original gate hence finding remains of the ancients there. Ra brought the Giza gate, but the ancients already had arctic gate. Also it was there longer because the DHD ran out of power.
The Gate in the SGC WAS the Antarctic Gate! :P