The Stargate Recliner of Rage Thread

[stargate barbie]

inspired by the recent segment on conan o'briens show, in which stargate sg-1 was featured (yay).
this thread is meant to act as an outlet for anyone to express their "rage" about any issue as long as its stargate related, preferably in a manner that incorporates some humour, so as not to offend too easily. maybe we could turn it into a debate type of thread if there is any interest for this at all out there.
i personally am a perfectly calm and rational person, and so have no desire at this time to express my rage over any issue ;)
(note: before raging, one might want to check out the forum rules first, just in case)

[Mio]

Furlings! Are they just giant furbies, or are they some kind of hideous sinister lizardlike aliens? Or maybe they are an asgard prank.....I can just see Thor beaming in, pointing at O'neill and yelling 'Gotcha.'

[Larry The Chevron Guy]

I want to see an Asgard make a joke or laugh! They're too dang serious!!

Same with Teal'c!

[stargate barbie]

i think teal'c is gradually developing a pretty decent sense of humour. its about time though.
i'll be pretty bothered if we don't get to see the furlings, and if they turn out to be furry, i'll either die of anger or of laughter. probably the last one.
i hope they're scalely. like a race of fish!

[Bakjuh]

I wouldn't mind seeing some Asgard that are actually quite evil..
Nasty sharp pointy teeth, mean looking.

Either that or an Asgard that is a host to a Goa'Uld.
Wouldn't mind seeing glowing eyes on one of them. :)

[stargate barbie]

I wouldn't mind seeing some Asgard that are actually quite evil..
Nasty sharp pointy teeth, mean looking.

Either that or an Asgard that is a host to a Goa'Uld.
Wouldn't mind seeing glowing eyes on one of them. :)
what like, rabid asgards? i wouldn't mind seeing that either. hey, i'm taking that one over to the band names thread! :)

[petzke_42]

I want to see an Asgard make a joke or laugh! They're too dang serious!!

Same with Teal'c!

Maybe he is afraid...remember what happened the last time he made a "Jaffa Joke." (In Seth, the Setesh Guards nose drips....ahahahahhaa....yeah...)

[Atum]

I wouldn't mind seeing some Asgard that are actually quite evil..
Nasty sharp pointy teeth, mean looking.

Either that or an Asgard that is a host to a Goa'Uld.
Wouldn't mind seeing glowing eyes on one of them. :)

Give an Asgard an eyepatch and a goatee, the you'll really know that he "turned heel".

[elhSG1]

So, how's Maybourne doing these days?

[Bast]

They had a bad Asgaard Loki

[SeaBee]

O'niells unwillingness to hear techno-speak, and constant cutting thru Daniel and Sam bug the C**P out of me! If he don't want the answer, why he ask da question? Let 'em speak ya military dinosaur. If he's so agin techno den howcome he don't use flintlock? Tech ok ifn he use it, bu' no can do ifn he don unnerstan'!

[Teal'c]

O'niells unwillingness to hear techno-speak, and constant cutting thru Daniel and Sam bug the C**P out of me! If he don't want the answer, why he ask da question? Let 'em speak ya military dinosaur. If he's so agin techno den howcome he don't use flintlock? Tech ok ifn he use it, bu' no can do ifn he don unnerstan'!
Ironically, I haven't got a clue what you're saying :P

[FixxxeR]

Maybe he is afraid...remember what happened the last time he made a "Jaffa Joke." (In Seth, the Setesh Guards nose drips....ahahahahhaa....yeah...)

that had me rolling

[Ugly Pig]

I wouldn't mind seeing some Asgard that are actually quite evil..
Nasty sharp pointy teeth, mean looking.
You mean like Ra's previous host in the Stargate movie? :)

[stargate barbie]

Ironically, I haven't got a clue what you're saying :P


"O'niells unwillingness to hear techno-speak, and constant cutting thru Daniel and Sam bug the C**P out of me! If he don't want the answer, why he ask da question? Let 'em speak ya military dinosaur. If he's so agin techno den howcome he don't use flintlock? Tech ok ifn he use it, bu' no can do ifn he don unnerstan'!"

allow me to attempt a translation...
ahem...

colonel o'neills unwillingness to listen to techno-babble, and his constant interuptions of both daniel and sam, bother the pooh out of me! if he doesn't wish to hear they're answers, why would he ask the question? lt them speak, you aging man of the military. if he if so against technology, then why does he not use "flintlock" (don't know, so don't ask!:p)?
technology is ok if he uses it, but .... ok ya know what, i don't get this last piece either...

in dublinese...
ah yeah story bud, if dah o'neill fella doesn't wan ta know wha dey're on abou why de f**k does 'e boder askin', ya know wha i me-an like? 'e's a gobsh!te he is! spa! :p

[Teal'c]

in dublinese...
ah yeah story bud, if dah o'neill fella doesn't wan ta know wha dey're on abou why de f**k does 'e boder askin', ya know wha i me-an like? 'e's a gobsh!te he is! spa! :p

Ah, you've been listening to the FM104 phoneshow :P

[stargate barbie]

Ah, you've been listening to the FM104 phoneshow :P
no, i've been watching the tv. but i live in north dublin so i know how to speak skanger. (its not my first language i swear)

[Bagpuss]

OK! A "Flintlock" was an old fashioned single shot rifle of sorts....I could tell you a lot more, if I could stop laughing at Stargate Barbie's "Colourful" (!) Translation......

OMG. If Posters are going to Rant/Vent,please let them make sense to others!

I actually wanted to vent some stuff, but I'm in no Sane state to express it!

Back later,and thanks for the imagery.....! :D

[stargate barbie]

OK! A "Flintlock" was an old fashioned single shot rifle of sorts....I could tell you a lot more, if I could stop laughing at Stargate Barbie's "Colourful" (!) Translation......

OMG. If Posters are going to Rant/Vent,please let them make sense to others!

I actually wanted to vent some stuff, but I'm in no Sane state to express it!

Back later,and thanks for the imagery.....! :D

thanks.

and the more insane the better. there should be no such thing as sane rage. :p

[SeaBee]

I must apologise for the odd post I put up yesterday. My only excuse is that I had just started on some fairly strong medication, and my brain was off with the fairies.

My point was that if O'Niell doesn't want to know the reason why something was happening, not happening, going right, going wrong, would work, wouldn't work or was or wasn't readable, then why did he bother asking? He knows his two top explainers are Supreme Geeks in their own fields of expertise, and he can trust them, so why not go with the flow, man? I mean, just chill, set a spell, kick ya shoes off. Y'all come back now, ya'owl.
(sorry, I think the drugs DO work!) :D

[KokiriChild]

I must apologise for the odd post I put up yesterday. My only excuse is that I had just started on some fairly strong medication, and my brain was off with the fairies.

My point was that if O'Niell doesn't want to know the reason why something was happening, not happening, going right, going wrong, would work, wouldn't work or was or wasn't readable, then why did he bother asking? He knows his two top explainers are Supreme Geeks in their own fields of expertise, and he can trust them, so why not go with the flow, man? I mean, just chill, set a spell, kick ya shoes off. Y'all come back now, ya'owl.
(sorry, I think the drugs DO work!) :D
lol, ahh, you win my seal of approval for the day *hands SeaBee a live seal*

Didn't O'Neill once say to the "Aschen ambassador" - "Never ask Carter how unless you <i>really</i> want to know"

Anywho, there's loads of little inconsitencies that bug me, like Red Chevrons... What the blinking hell? The issue with zat guns annoys me too - how long the effect lasts, uuuhm, what else? The glyphs on each gate - are they the same or different? newly dubbed "Arse Whirlpools" - where did they go?

I'll think of some decent arguement to post on here eventually.

[Teal'c]

lol, ahh, you win my seal of approval for the day *hands SeaBee a live seal*

Didn't O'Neill once say to the "Aschen ambassador" - "Never ask Carter how unless you <i>really</i> want to know"

Anywho, there's loads of little inconsitencies that bug me, like Red Chevrons... What the blinking hell? The issue with zat guns annoys me too - how long the effect lasts, uuuhm, what else? The glyphs on each gate - are they the same or different? newly dubbed "Arse Whirlpools" - where did they go?

I'll think of some decent arguement to post on here eventually.
You've forgotten the golden rule. If it's in the movie, it doesn't count :P There are many inconsistancies between the movie and series, and the series wins all the time because it's cool! :P

All gates have the same set of 38 standard glyphs. And Zat effects lasting effects depend on each instance.

[KokiriChild]

You've forgotten the golden rule. If it's in the movie, it doesn't count :P There are many inconsistancies between the movie and series, and the series wins all the time because it's cool! :P

All gates have the same set of 38 standard glyphs. And Zat effects lasting effects depend on each instance.
*shock* If it's in the movie it doesn't count? *more shock*

Blasphemy!!! Why, if you weren't such a cool character, I'd have you shot at close range by Maybourne!

[Teal'c]

OK, if the movie counts, explain why Shau'ri's name became Sha're? :P

[KokiriChild]

*does Teal'cs "One Eyebrow" thing*

Because Ancient Egyptian is based on a symbolic character set rather than an Arabic character set (such as ours), so it's more the pronounciation of the word that counts, not the way it's written in English. In English, each character sounds different depending on where it is in the scentance (look at 'Fish' becoming 'ghoti'), with Ancient Egyptian each symbol sounds the same no matter where you put it in the scentance as it's the ideology that counts, the actually different pronounciation is due to the fact Daniel would have an accent to the Abydonians.

[Teal'c]

Why does Jack's name suddenly gain an L then? :P

[KokiriChild]

"Jack" never had any L's in it, O'Neill did :P

ok, answering the question: The military in the movie made a strange mistake when he signed up in 1950something, and it wasn't corrected until he was recalled to active duty in 1990something... Honest!

[Teal'c]

And the fact that Kawalski was a Lt. Col. in the movie, refered to as Lieutenant? :P

[KokiriChild]

Yep, Lt. Col. is his rank, but you'd address him as Lieutenant... Or "Sir"...

[SeaBee]

Why does Jack's name suddenly gain an L then? :P

Good question.


"Jack" never had any L's in it, O'Neill did


Excellent answer!
ROTFLMAO! :D

[Bakjuh]

You mean like Ra's previous host in the Stargate movie? :)

That's what i not get from the movie.
Sure you saw an Asgard like beeing when he got blown up, but it didnt really look like a Grey pretty much.
Besides, how would we know that an Asgard was his previous host?

If that was true, i'm sure the Goa'uld would have used Asgard technology already.

[StargateDLS]

does any one have the video of part 2 when bernard went to the site of sg1?

[Bakjuh]

That's what i not get from the movie.
Sure you saw an Asgard like beeing when he got blown up, but it didnt really look like a Grey pretty much.
Besides, how would we know that an Asgard was his previous host?

If that was true, i'm sure the Goa'uld would have used Asgard technology already.

Just had to quote myself really. heh

But speaking of Ra and the way he looked like in the white light...
Didn't he somewhat resemble Anubis when he showed his face to Daniel in Full Circle? Or am i totally mistaken? :)

[KokiriChild]

does any one have the video of part 2 when bernard went to the site of sg1?
See the "watch conan now" thread

[stargate barbie]

generally i tend to agree with the tv shows version of anything rather than the movie's. not because the movie wasn't good, because it bloody well was, but because i don't really like dean devlin (and to a lesser extent roland emmerich) since they slagged off the tv show in the audio commentary for the movie. i'm shallow and spiteful that way :p . plus the tv show has expanded on the whole mythology and potential way better than the movie franchise could've, as far as i'm concerned.

[Bagpuss]

and the more insane the better. there should be no such thing as sane rage. :p

How true! ;)

I'm very new to this "Ranting" but I'll try to run off at the mouth a bit anyway!

Ok.Hmmmm! So many little bitty annoyances,but let's see.......

Right.Found one! ;)

What's with all the flippin' excitement over whether there'll be a Season 9?
Season 8 hasn't even finished filming,nor have any of us Stargate Fans seen anything except some Teasers and Spoilers.What kind of Crystal Ball tech are we using,here?


I mean,I've heard of the phrase "Putting the Cart before the Horse";but in this Poster's POV,IMO,or whatever suits as a Firewall against reprisals from any other Posters, :p(Friendly :p ,BTW!) :Aren't some of us putting the cart before the "Horse's Unconceived Bloomin' Foal", as well?? ;)

I mean why the Heck should there be a Season 9,anyway?
I really don't think we should be stroking the TV Executioners'/Executives' egos,or greed!Not yet anyway! ;)

Nor is it,IMO,a sufficient reason to plead for a S.9 on the basis of how many Seasons ST Voyager,etc, nor the amount of Seasons X-Files ran for!

Let's see Season 8 before picking out curtains and furniture for Season 9! ;)

OK! Done! Happy now? ;)

Phew! You did ask! :)

[Teal'c]

Yep, Lt. Col. is his rank, but you'd address him as Lieutenant... Or "Sir"...
No, Lt. Colonels are addressed as Colonel, NEVER Lieutenant! :P

[stargate barbie]

yeah, i think when a show runs for a certain length of time, it should then be renewed, if you like, on a yearly basis. lets see how season 8 goes before we do season 9. i think about half way through season 8, its ok to add another one.

in my opinion the x-files should have stuck to its original 5 year plan, failing that it should have gone out on season 6, maaayybe 7. its bad when I stop watching a show.

i think so far stargate hasn't disappointed (me at least, barring one or two episodes), but lets see how it goes, hhmm?

and yes i did ask. but don't ya feel better having gotten the ranting out of your system? it's fun, isn't it?

[Bagpuss]

OMG! FUN?? :eek:

I did my best to oblige, and the rush of blood to the head,and bile round the bodyworks was SO weird,and strangely liberating........ ;)

Have to find something else to have a "Rage" about! Or go back to my "Nicer"
normal self.

[KokiriChild]

No, Lt. Colonels are addressed as Colonel, NEVER Lieutenant! :P
.... *gives evil eyes*... damn you Teal'c... on a totally unrelated note, did you know that the kid who played Ra (Jason Someone) didn't like filming ANYTHING about Stargate, so on the last day of filming, when they'd called 'cut' on the last scene he stripped down to his underwear and just walked home? Now *that*'s rage of Stargate!

[SeaBee]

.... *gives evil eyes*... damn you Teal'c... on a totally unrelated note, did you know that the kid who played Ra (Jason Someone) didn't like filming ANYTHING about Stargate, so on the last day of filming, when they'd called 'cut' on the last scene he stripped down to his underwear and just walked home? Now *that*'s rage of Stargate!

No, that's not rage, that's just plain mad!
Only a complete Froot loop would do that! :eek:

[Teal'c]

No, that's not rage, that's just plain mad!
Only a complete Froot loop would do that! :eek:
Well he was the chick from the Crying Game.... :P

[petzke_42]

.... *gives evil eyes*... damn you Teal'c... on a totally unrelated note, did you know that the kid who played Ra (Jason Someone) didn't like filming ANYTHING about Stargate, so on the last day of filming, when they'd called 'cut' on the last scene he stripped down to his underwear and just walked home? Now *that*'s rage of Stargate!


That's awesome. I wanna know why he hated it so much...

[aAnubiSs]

Not enough Nox, Asgard. Too many stand alone-eps, too many earth based in s8. Killing Sokar, Goa'uld stupidity.

I could go on for a while :)

[KokiriChild]

The reason is (and this sounds pathetic to me, but it's true) he was a typical teenager and he had his nipple's pierced, the wardrobe told him to remove them but he refused on the grounds they were being unfair, and it was his body he could do what he wanted, so wardrobe and camera had to work around this, careful not to expose his Goa'uld pierced nipples at any time, but this aggrevated him even more, and one thing lead to another and he walked home in his undies

[petzke_42]

Haha, what a douchebag.

[petzke_42]

Oops, sorry, is that allowed?

[KokiriChild]

Haha, what a douchebag.
douchebag? Hahaha, I hadn't heard that since I was 12! Hehehe, ya made me laugh for all of... well, in honesty about 30 seconds ;)

[petzke_42]

I do have the mind of a 12 year old, but the body of a hot, buff, sexy 25 year old.

[KokiriChild]

Oh really? We must talk some more!

[stargate barbie]

i have the mind of a five year old. i'm saying nothing about my body. (but don't let the barbie part fool ya ;) )

[KokiriChild]

What?! Damnit, I was hoping your waist was the same size as your neck and you were just as easy to undress


Err, maybe you should ignore the last part :P

[petzke_42]

I can wiggle....my clothes fall right off.

[stargate barbie]

What?! Damnit, I was hoping your waist was the same size as your neck and you were just as easy to undress


Err, maybe you should ignore the last part :P

nah, this thread is all about rage :p

[KokiriChild]

Can sexual frustration not count as rage? To stay on topic, I am sexually frustrated at Stargate Barbie :P

Hey, it's Stargate and I'm raging :P

[Aphrodite]

Well try to keep your raging sexual frustrations to a somewhat PG level. :p

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But to keep in line with the topic, I'm still enraged at how Dr. Janet Frasier/TR left the show. For me it seemed it was a shock tactic and I still felt her memorial wasn't enough to justify the way she left the show...the whole thing seem rushed. One minute she was there, the next she wasn't. Also Jack O'Neill's reduced schedule limiting his part in the SG1 team, and also leading to General Hammond leaving too.

Well that's my rage moment.

[petzke_42]

Can sexual frustration not count as rage? To stay on topic, I am sexually frustrated at Stargate Barbie :P

Hey, it's Stargate and I'm raging :P

You got your Stargate, and you got your Barbie...what's not to like?

(There is a wormhole joke that I'm just not even going to touch)

[Iskandra]

The reason is (and this sounds pathetic to me, but it's true) he was a typical teenager and he had his nipple's pierced, the wardrobe told him to remove them but he refused on the grounds they were being unfair, and it was his body he could do what he wanted, so wardrobe and camera had to work around this, careful not to expose his Goa'uld pierced nipples at any time, but this aggrevated him even more, and one thing lead to another and he walked home in his undies

Er....actually he wasn't a teenager, he was a grown man, albeit one that is pretty androgynous, but nevertheless grown up...he's called Jaye Davidson and has played other...interesting roles (There was this film with Stephen Rea where he played a transsexual, and Mr Rea only found out after undressing that he was dating a GUY....)

[Iskandra]

*does Teal'cs "One Eyebrow" thing*

Because Ancient Egyptian is based on a symbolic character set rather than an Arabic character set (such as ours), so it's more the pronounciation of the word that counts, not the way it's written in English. In English, each character sounds different depending on where it is in the scentance (look at 'Fish' becoming 'ghoti'), with Ancient Egyptian each symbol sounds the same no matter where you put it in the scentance as it's the ideology that counts, the actually different pronounciation is due to the fact Daniel would have an accent to the Abydonians.

Uh...that is not exactly correct, but I bet if I go into detail, you'd all do an O'Neill on me and look blank or tell me off for using funny language ;)

[KokiriChild]

Go for it, I'm heavily into the geeky and would LOVE to know the real answer... plus I only said it to shut Teal'c up, and it's roughly right ^_^

[stargate barbie]

You got your Stargate, and you got your Barbie...what's not to like?

(There is a wormhole joke that I'm just not even going to touch)

you like barbies? :o

he he hehehe, wormhole, heh...

[stargate barbie]

i'm enraged that i have to wait until at least september before i get to see the new season and the new series, and pretty soon, i'm gonna have to start seriously avoiding spoilers, because at least half the people here will have seen it months before me. and everyones going to be yapping about all the new episodes that i haven't seen! ggrrrrr. :( ........... :mad:

[KokiriChild]

you like barbies? :o

he he hehehe, wormhole, heh...
I like Barbie's, and wormholes... Although I don't think I've ever used that as a slang term before. I know how you feel about spoliers, I'm avoiding most boards as I haven't seen s6 or s7 yet (no box set, Sky showing SG1 on wrong day).

On a completely un-related note to anything, may I check your DHD's for a Point of Origin Barbie?

[stargate barbie]

well that all depends on how well your chevrons lock. and how big your kawoosh is... wait, are we still talking about stargate?

[KokiriChild]

I hope so ^_^ My chevrons still glow bright red for ya ^_^, and just like the Tau'ri said to the Tollan... "Mine's bigger"

[Feli]

well that all depends on how well your chevrons lock. and how big your kawoosh is... wait, are we still talking about stargate?
I really hope you are; I wouldn't want to have to remind you and KokiriChild that we're a PG forum...!

Feli

[KokiriChild]

Have we ever said anything that *isn't* Stargate related here? To quote myself:

My chevrons still glow bright red for ya

Simply implies that my gate has enough power to keep going for a bit longer, aaand the second thing to quote from myself:

and just like the Tau'ri said to the Tollan... "Mine's bigger"

this means that it's not the size of your Stargate, it's what you do with it that counts. The Tollan's should've shared their technology through the Stargate, that way they could all still be here!

[petzke_42]

I don't know how far this is going to go, but if you're willing to step through the gate, remember to always carry protection. *hands you a P-90*

[KokiriChild]

It's ok, I always bring a Jaffa with me.

[stargate barbie]

It's ok, I always bring a Jaffa with me.
what? like the cake/biscuit?

[KokiriChild]

hell yeah, every guy carries a Jaffa Cake with him!

[Iskandra]

...uh...I gather notebooks and dictionaries and stuff don't count as protection? Can I carry a bow and arrows? I, for my part, am way better with these than with things shooting bullets....:D

*Still wondering why those chevrons...I mean.....and Barbies and cakes.....*

*Goes back to her books*

[KokiriChild]

...uh...I gather notebooks and dictionaries and stuff don't count as protection?
Depends on the heavyness of the books and how hard you can throw them! Release the rage Iksandra!!!

[Revet]

Ok, I beileve I have just entered the strangest thread on earth, well, I hope its on earth...*whimpers worriedly*

[KokiriChild]

We prefer to call this planet P0X-001 actually :P

[petzke_42]

Wouldn't PXX-XXX be more suitable?? :P That's five X's you gutterminded people!!! ;)

[KokiriChild]

hehee, suppose so!

[SeaBee]

I thought this was the spleen venting thread!

I mean, I come in here, ready to have a really good rant about something, and all I find is people having a good time! What's the forum coming to? I don't know, youngsters today, what can you do with them. First chance they get, it's all hedonism and wild living! It wasn't like that in my day, let me tell you! No! We had to make our own entertainment in those days....and have you seen the prices these days? You can't get a DVD box set of season 1 for under 50 quid, these days! Shocking!............

*Wanders off, muttering*

Eggs......................why can't you buy just one, eh? I might not want 6.

[KokiriChild]

Ha! That's nothing, back in my day we had to make our own box sets, using nothing more than a book written in manuscript and a set of lego. Rant away, dear SeaBee!

[SeaBee]

Ha! That's nothing, back in my day we had to make our own box sets, using nothing more than a book written in manuscript and a set of lego. Rant away, dear SeaBee!

LOL :D

Oh, that's great! Now I'm all cheared up!
How am I supposed to have a rant now?
It's just not FAIR!! :mad:

*Stamps off*

[KokiriChild]

Rant about your happiness - or your lack of sherbert lemons maybe?

[petzke_42]

I thought this was the spleen venting thread!

I mean, I come in here, ready to have a really good rant about something, and all I find is people having a good time! What's the forum coming to? I don't know, youngsters today, what can you do with them. First chance they get, it's all hedonism and wild living! It wasn't like that in my day, let me tell you! No! We had to make our own entertainment in those days....and have you seen the prices these days? You can't get a DVD box set of season 1 for under 50 quid, these days! Shocking!............

*Wanders off, muttering*

Eggs......................why can't you buy just one, eh? I might not want 6.

Hey, when life gives you lemons, make lemonade...unless your juicer is broken like mine :(

[KokiriChild]

When life gives you lemons eat them because you have a vitamin c defficiancy... That could just be me tho ^_^

[Jprime]

I WANNA SEE MORE ROBOTS! ROBOTS RULE, EVEN IF THEYRE ANDROIDS WHO LOOK EXACTLY LIKE HUMANS! ANDROIDS AND ASGARDS RULE!!!!! :)

theres my rage.thank you for your attention.what are you doing still reading? this post is over now.PLEASE GO AWAY!

[petzke_42]

I WANNA SEE MORE ROBOTS! ROBOTS RULE, EVEN IF THEYRE ANDROIDS WHO LOOK EXACTLY LIKE HUMANS! ANDROIDS AND ASGARDS RULE!!!!! :)


Yeah...that Rommie is hot....I'd like to stick my 3 1/2 inch floppy into her computer.

(Did I go to far? I will calm down if I did...)

[Iskandra]

Depends on the heavyness of the books and how hard you can throw them! Release the rage Iksandra!!!

Actually, it's ISKandra....but never mind...I'll just throw my complete Egyptian Ditcionary (several utterly heavy large books) at everyone in the series who did not properly research their mythological background, making this one linguist here VERY angry! :D

[KokiriChild]

Mwuhahahahaa, hehehe, woohooo... Anywho...

Cheeseburgers... Uhm, nope, that's not it... oh yeah, sorry, IKsandra was a typo - my fingers run too fast for my brain to keep up!

[stargate barbie]

can ya feel the rage? :D ... no...wait.... :mad:

[petzke_42]

SCREW YOU! (is that ragey enough? I didnt mean it! Im sorry!!! NOOO!!! I'm sorry! Dang, this sorryness negated any rage I just had...:( )

[petzke_42]

*Is watching Pierre Bernard's Recliner of Rage right now*

*Wants some Malimar's cookies now*

[ShadowMaat]

Hey, when life gives you lemons, make lemonade...unless your juicer is broken like mine :(
What if you're allergic to citrus? :P If life hands you lemons, make a glass of poison and drink it! Ha!

I find it extremely irritating that people older than I am don't know who Heisenberg and Scroedinger are... and I don't mean the cat! Come on, people! Grow a brain! I have funny jokes to tell and no one to tell them to, dammit!

At least most people get the dinosaur extinction joke.

I'm mad at the writers. How could they let themselves be abducted and replaced by trained monkeys!! I mean, I know the ninja squirrels are kinda scary, but if TPTB had just banded together, they could have defeated the furry little monsters and the Nightmare That Was S7 would never have happened! :P

I think it's vastly unfair that they can show full female nudity in COTG, but in seven years we've had no suitable male quivalent. That's sexism, that is!

I have more complaints, but it'll take me a while to figure out a way to word them nicely... and that annoys me, too! ;)

[petzke_42]

What if you're allergic to citrus? :P If life hands you lemons, make a glass of poison and drink it! Ha!

I think it's vastly unfair that they can show full female nudity in COTG, but in seven years we've had no suitable male quivalent. That's sexism, that is!



Maybe in your case you should :p .

It's Stargate...if you want male nudity, watch NYPD Blue (is that even still on?)

(Besides...it's not on Showtime now, so even if the WANTED to show Daniels symbiote, they couldn't)

[ShadowMaat]

Heh. Oops. Forgot about Daniel de-Ascending in the nude. :S

Anyway, I'm not allergic to citrus, but McKay is. Betcha he hates that lemonade thing, too. So I'll be annoyed about it for him. :P

[SeaBee]

I find it extremely irritating that people older than I am don't know who Heisenberg and Scroedinger are... and I don't mean the cat! Come on, people! Grow a brain! I have funny jokes to tell and no one to tell them to, dammit!

I tried Scroedingers theory on my cat, once. I discovered that when I opened the box it wasn't just alive, but b****y furious as well! :D


I think it's vastly unfair that they can show full female nudity in COTG, but in seven years we've had no suitable male quivalent. That's sexism, that is!

I think that with most men, apart from a very few lucky individuals, the sight of them naked is more likely to invite howls of laughter than appreciative noises! :eek:

[ShadowMaat]

I tried Scroedingers theory on my cat, once. I discovered that when I opened the box it wasn't just alive, but b****y furious as well! :D
That reminds me of a quote (or maybe paraphrase) from a Discworld book:

Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead... although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead and Bloody Furious.


>edit: On reflection, it occurs to me that you may have gotten your quote from there as well. ;) Heh... I need food... and I'm angry about that, too!<

And then there was the whole scene with Albert trying to explain Schroeding'ers theory to Death, who got very upset at the idea that his looking at a cat might kill it. IT'S NOT AS IF I MAKE FACES OR ANYTHING., he said. ;) "Last Hero" in general is a very funny read, and wonderfully illustrated.

Er... but rage, yes... How about I find it infuriating when people dare to question my right to post here? :P If people can say that Pete should die, then I should be able to say that the whole SHOW should die! ;)

[stargate barbie]

shadowmaat, i question your right to post here! :p

seriously though, who does that or should i say where does that happen? other than me just now, that is.

[ShadowMaat]

seriously though, who does that or should i say where does that happen? other than me just now, that is.
It's a variety of people, really. They wanna know why I bother watching the show at all, or why do I post here, how come I never say anything nice, isn't there anything I like about the show, what's my problem anyway, how can I call myself a fan, happy questions like that.

[Shipperahoy]

It's a variety of people, really. They wanna know why I bother watching the show at all, or why do I post here, how come I never say anything nice, isn't there anything I like about the show, what's my problem anyway, how can I call myself a fan, happy questions like that.

Why do you bother watching the show? Why the heck do you post here? Why can't you ever say anything nice? Don't you like anything about the show? Seriously, what's your problem? You're not a TRUE fan. Quite yer bi***in'!

xoxoxoxo :D :p ;)

[stargate barbie]

i asked you once why you still watched the show and posted on its forums. but it was just curiosity, not a query of your right to be here. sorry if you took offence to it.
feel free to rage at me though if ya did. if you never liked the show and just came here to slag us off, then i could understand. but as i understand it, you still like the older episodes, right?

how can you call yourself a fan?!

[ShadowMaat]

Why do you bother watching the show? Why the heck do you post here? Why can't you ever say anything nice? Don't you like anything about the show? Seriously, what's your problem? You're not a TRUE fan. Quite yer bi***in'!
*kicks Shipper in the side* :P:P

I watch the show so I'll have something to complain about.
I post here so my complaints can be seen by others.
The theme song is kinda catchy.
My lawyer advises me not to answer that question. :P

[Bagpuss]

Way ta go Shadow!! :D Love your List Of Reasons.... :D

Hope the "Omnipotent One" recovers! LOL!

Erm,actually I had a Peeve to Post on this Thread..........but I've forgotten what on Earth it was now! :o

*Sidles away*

[stargate barbie]

Erm,actually I had a Peeve to Post on this Thread..........but I've forgotten what on Earth it was now!

i think that alone could qualify as a peeve :D

[Bagpuss]

Or just a case of Temp. Amnesia!! ;)

Still off track with the Peeve,btw,time to turn in for the night I think! :o

[Shipperahoy]

I watch the show so I'll have something to complain about.

Like there's nothing else in the world to complain about? :p


I post here so my complaints can be seen by others.

Well you're certainly doing your job. Can't turn around in here without seeing one of your little bi*** sessions. :D


My lawyer advises me not to answer that question. :P

That's probably a good idea. Although the insanity defense is a classic. ;)


*kicks Shipper in the side* :P:P

Slinks away holding on to bruised ribs.



Seriously though, nothing but love. Nothing but love. That and my ribs need a break.

[ShadowMaat]

That and my ribs need a break.
Oh, I can arrange a "break" if you want. Several of them, in fact. :D

And since I'm on a Stargate board, I'm gonna make Stargate complaints. Mostly. At least in the on topic areas. Er... mostly. So there. :P

[stargate barbie]

That's probably a good idea. Although the insanity defense is a classic. ;)

ya know in shadowmaats case thats probably a valid defense too :p

thats right i went there on ya :D

[ShadowMaat]

ya know in shadowmaats case thats probably a valid defense too :p
I prefer the term "sanity challenged". :P And people who call me crazy drive me crazy, too! HA! On topic! :P

[stargate barbie]

ok just to make shadowmaat feel more welcome considering how mean i've been, i'm gonna rage about something i'm pretty sure she can go along with.

there's not enough luke in stargate! c'mon PTB! that lemon chicken line delivery was brilliant!

[ShadowMaat]

there's not enough luke in stargate! c'mon PTB! that lemon chicken line delivery was brilliant!
LUKE! LUKE! LUKE! LUKE!

Yes, by all means, Stargate needs more Luke. He's the star of the show, dammit! ;)

[Shipperahoy]

Oh, I can arrange a "break" if you want. Several of them, in fact. :D

Wow, I really left myself wide open for that one.

Anyway, back on topic, does it drive anyone else nuts when they use the same actors to play multiple characters over the seasons? It's a minor pet peeve but everytime I see it I can't help but think "hey that's the same person who played <insert character here>" and if I'm thinking that then I'm not really concentrating on the what's going on in the show. They do that on Law & Order all of the time too and ,curse my long term memory!, I just can't move past it.

[stargate barbie]

and as for atlantis, if they ruin mckays character i'll be very very irked.
and it also kind of bugs me that they changed the actress who plays dr weir. now all i'll be able to think when i look at the new one will be. "you're not really dr weir. i've seen dr weir, and you aren't her, you big imposter". regardless of how good she may be, it'll probably still bug me. it was a bit like that the first time i saw the new cassandra, but i got over that pretty quickly because she isn't a main character and we hardly ever see her.

should we get a petition going or something for TPTB to bring back luke? ;)

[ShadowMaat]

Anyway, back on topic, does it drive anyone else nuts when they use the same actors to play multiple characters over the seasons?
When I notice it, it bothers me, although this is one instance when having a bad memory and a near pathological inability to recognize faces comes in handy. ;) Usually, when I catch it, I think, "Doesn't SG-1 realize that's <insert character name> from <insert ep/planet name>?"

[stargate barbie]

Wow, I really left myself wide open for that one.

Anyway, back on topic, does it drive anyone else nuts when they use the same actors to play multiple characters over the seasons? It's a minor pet peeve but everytime I see it I can't help but think "hey that's the same person who played <insert character here>" and if I'm thinking that then I'm not really concentrating on the what's going on in the show. They do that on Law & Order all of the time too and ,curse my long term memory!, I just can't move past it.
it doesn't really bother me when they put the actor in heavy make up so that you don't really recognise them, and it didn't bother me when they used the guy who played the ashrak in season 7's revisions, (took me a while to figure out who he was). but sometimes it does bother me. when they changed cassandra, all i could think was, "thats not cassandra.... thats the kid from 'Bane'.... they cheated us out of a cassandra......thats not cassandra....damn them..."

but it never bothers me when they reuse dion johnstone, he's a great actor and he always varies his characters enough so you aren't constantly thinking its the same guy from whatever episode he was in last.
same goes for alex zahara. and when they reused patrick currie (fifth, one of the unas in enemy mine and eamon in space race) i didn't even know which one he was until it was pointed out on the commentaries.

but depending on the actor and the character, and the amount of time between their appearances, yes it can bother me.

ya know, for someone who started a rage thread, i don't really seem to have too much of it. :o

[ShadowMaat]

Another thing that annoys me? People who confuse opinion and fact. People who state their opinions as fact and defend that viewpoint (or "fact" as they think of it) violently without even the possibility of considering that other viewpoints might exist.

People who degrade and insult other people just because they don't agree with what that person is saying. People who think that differing opinions are null and void because, "My view is the only correct view, so anyone who thinks differently must be an idiot."

People who dismiss someone's opinion with things like, "You just don't like it because Daniel isn't in it" or, "You're just made because Jonas isn't around any more" or "You only like him because he isn't Jack" and ignore any valid points/interpretations that the person may be making.

People who say things like, "Well, you must have been watching another show." I use it sparingly, myself, and only when it's obvious I'm being obviously sarcastic, but I've seen several people use it and intend it as a serious statement of "fact". It fits in with the whole dismissing someone's viewpoint, but it aggravates me enough to get a mention of its own. ;)

[Bagpuss]

Way to go Shadow!! I couldn't have expressed that better myself. :)

Like to add:Once an opinion is stated as "Fact",in debate,by a Poster,it makes me very uneasy in replying to them, as I like Discussion,not "Tit-for-Tatting"!

Heated feelings are fine.Heated Postings only enflame, IMO!!

[stargate barbie]

this is exactly why i've taken to stating in those kinds of posts that i am merely stating my opinion on a matter. i hate it when somebody assumes i'm stating something as fact when its just my opinion. how can anyone honestly state something stargate related as fact if it hasn't actually been stated as such by TPTB.

[Dani347]

People who dismiss someone's opinion with things like, "You just don't like it because Daniel isn't in it" or, "You're just made because Jonas isn't around any more" or "You only like him because he isn't Jack" and ignore any valid points/interpretations that the person may be making.



This especially annoys me after taking the time to go into detail about why I feel a certain way, just to have my opinion reduced to nothing. If you disagree with my opinion, that's fine. But, don't act like it doesn't exist and offer up the simplest explanation possible. I know why I don't like something, and I usually go into extreme detail to say it.

[stargate barbie]

usually when i treat an opinion that way, i'm being sarcastic. sorry if it offends, but i'm a very very very sarcastic person. its gotten me into trouble before. :(

if i think someones opinion is so completely out there, and not worth my time as far as i'm concerned, then i wont respond to it. i don't see the point. i'm sure i've had opinions that people thought were ridiculous and stupid and completely unfounded or whatever (like this one ;) ) and if that were the case then i wouldn't expect them to just come along and go, "you're stupid, shut up". if you don't like a thread, don't go there. if you don't like an opinion, and can't respect that a person has that opinion, then just don't respond to it. ignore it. whats the big F****n' deal b****!?! :D

[ShadowMaat]

OK, this is something that doesn't send me into a rage, but I do find it extremely disturbing and upsetting. I've noticed a trend these days of treating rape as a joke. I've seen kids tease each other with things like "rape me" and "*X rapes Y*" and similar sentiments. I'm sorry, but I don't find it the least bit amusing and I don't think it's a subject that should EVER be treated lightly. It's a horrible, vile, disgusting, violent thing and not at all suitable to joke about. LMJ, you stepped in it again, I'm afraid. ;) I know you meant your comment in all innocence, but it just really, REALLY bothers me to see stuff like that. Rape of ANY kind is not funny. Ever. And I'm fairly confident that can be seen as fact, not just opinion. :)

[Nolamom]

Okay, here's a related grrrrr - folks who feel the compulsion to use profanity. Fortunately, here people are well-mannered and make polite conversation, but most places on the net aren't this way! Can't they find any other way to express themselves? I liked something I saw on the Actor's Studio - Jay Leno was saying that his favorite curse expression was "syphillitc druid" because it makes people think.
Nmom

[Bagpuss]

OK, this is something that doesn't send me into a rage, but I do find it extremely disturbing and upsetting. I've noticed a trend these days of treating rape as a joke. I've seen kids tease each other with things like "rape me" and "*X rapes Y*" and similar sentiments. I'm sorry, but I don't find it the least bit amusing and I don't think it's a subject that should EVER be treated lightly. It's a horrible, vile, disgusting, violent thing and not at all suitable to joke about. LMJ, you stepped in it again, I'm afraid. ;) I know you meant your comment in all innocence, but it just really, REALLY bothers me to see stuff like that. Rape of ANY kind is not funny. Ever. And I'm fairly confident that can be seen as fact, not just opinion. :)

With you all the way on that "Rage",Shadow!
I've heard the same execrable rubbish,touted locally,here in the UK.

Definitely NO joking matter. :(

[Bagpuss]

Okay, here's a related grrrrr - folks who feel the compulsion to use profanity. Fortunately, here people are well-mannered and make polite conversation, but most places on the net aren't this way! Can't they find any other way to express themselves? I liked something I saw on the Actor's Studio - Jay Leno was saying that his favorite curse expression was "syphillitc druid" because it makes people think.
Nmom

Agreed, Nola! :D

I browsed other SG Related Forums,before deciding to join GW.

One of my main criteria was to find a Forum where the views expressed were "Filth-Free".

I still check out other Forums, out of sheer feline curiosity.

I'd better not name the offending Site/Forum,I'm referring to here.Let's just say that it was SG SG-1/SG Atlantis related.............

To get to the point,I'd visited before to check it out for SGA info and went back to read the POV's a couple of days ago.Found a few cases of real profanity and obvious "Trolling".(Maybe they don't have "Mods"?)

Needless to say, I won't visit that site again !!
No disrespect to the Site itself or most members/posters.Just "Trolls" and those who think the "F" word is a catch-all term.

If anyone ever reads a Troll post anywhere around the Forums, under either my old or new names,I GUARANTEE the Poster is a Fake.FACT!

This brings me neatly to my "Rage".

*TO ANY RELEVANT LURKERS:*
There is no need to Troll,IMO,or use other Posters' names,to cause or provoke offence deliberately!
That's the Coward's way out.
If you can't express your views, except by using profane terms, best left off-forum,regarding ANY aspect of Stargate,then take a good hard look at your own attitude!

Then modify your language,join a forum and debate freely to your Heart's content.Not too difficult, IMO!

There! Rage expressed.

[KokiriChild]

Woah, very true, very true. I had someone on another message board who found out my password and caused no end of trouble.

[Bagpuss]

OMG! How did you find out? (Keep the Forum name concerned out of any reply.Legal reasons etc.)

On the Site I can't name, some Troll had done much the same kinda thing.

Luckily another Poster rumbled them, and had a good go at them. I think they recognised the "Name" the Troll was using.

Have to say,I reckon some pathetic people have way too much time on their hands. :(

[Nolamom]

I've been involved for some years on a self-moderated bboard...which can truly be a pain in the mikta when a determined troll comes to town. No matter how many times you explain to other members NOT to respond in any fashion to such folks, *someone* always has to argue with them. Lately the profanity has become so thick that my pop-up blocker was recognizing it as a porn site!
Nmom

[Bagpuss]

Oh,dear! :eek:

Not good,IMO.At all. No idea why these Trolls feel the need to do any of that.

I mean,if anything,they end up being ignored altogether,even if there was an
actual genuine Issue they wanted to bring to the other Posters' attention!

What's wrong with simple courtesy,anyway?

It doesn't take much to use less "Colourful " language,and by keeping their tempers, they'd stand much more chance of being respected by other Posters ,and their opinions valued.

[keshou]

I've been involved for some years on a self-moderated bboard...which can truly be a pain in the mikta when a determined troll comes to town. No matter how many times you explain to other members NOT to respond in any fashion to such folks, *someone* always has to argue with them. Lately the profanity has become so thick that my pop-up blocker was recognizing it as a porn site!
Nmom
Well if it's the board I'm thinking of, I don't know how you stick it out. I've wandered over there a few times and I've seen you (unless it's CloneNolamom) and a couple of others patiently trying to keep that board on track. Truly a thankless task and I admire you for it. The trolls seem to be relentless.

I hate to think Scifi is using that as any sort of demographic tool for the intelligence of their audience. If so we're in *BIG* trouble.

BTW, I love your "Fluffy The Destroyer" pic, it always makes me smile when I see it. :)

[ShadowMaat]

I left that board a long time ago because I couldn't deal with all the BS... and because they started shutting down the big older threads where I'd been hiding out. *sigh* Moving the discussions to other "hidden" threads didn't work out too well, so I gave up. Gateworld is a much better place, anyway. :)

[Nolamom]

Well if it's the board I'm thinking of, I don't know how you stick it out. I've wandered over there a few times and I've seen you (unless it's CloneNolamom) and a couple of others patiently trying to keep that board on track. Truly a thankless task and I admire you for it. The trolls seem to be relentless.

If you've seen a Nolamom being patient, that would be me. The clones never are patient, and only try to cause disruption. There are a few of us die-hards who keep trying.


BTW, I love your "Fluffy The Destroyer" pic, it always makes me smile when I see it. :)

Thank you. He makes me smile too. Doesn't he just look like "give me a shoe - NOW!"
Nmom

[ShadowMaat]

OK, here's a gripe. Several months ago (maybe even many), I started getting messages in my Yahoo Bulk Mail folder from various addresses saying that the email that the Jonas group "owner" was sending contained spam/viruses. After a couple of days of this, I emailed Yahoo admin and asked for help. They basically told me, "tough s***."

Now, suddenly, months later I'm getting emails from Yahoo Admin saying, "We've been receiving complaints..." and that "You've probably been infected..." and "Here's what to do..."

Where the hell were they all those months ago when I emailed them MYSELF asking for help??! GrrrrRRRRRR.....

I suppose I should be grateful that they deigned to realize there was a problem at all... and that there's actually something they can maybe do about it.

Still pisses me off, though.

[ShadowMaat]

And now the bloody account has been "suspended"!!! AAAUUUGGGHHHH!!!!! :mad: Stupid friggen blankety-blank ridiculous !@#%^&#!@%#@$ YAHOO!!! http://smilies.jeeptalk.org/contrib/lynx/redmad.gif

[stargate barbie]

on the plus side, ya got yer nirrti avatar! :) i know this is a place for rage, but still.

[KokiriChild]

OMG! How did you find out? (Keep the Forum name concerned out of any reply.Legal reasons etc.)

On the Site I can't name, some Troll had done much the same kinda thing.

Luckily another Poster rumbled them, and had a good go at them. I think they recognised the "Name" the Troll was using.

Have to say,I reckon some pathetic people have way too much time on their hands. :(
By the fact I read a message in a thread from me - which contained things I'd never say. Plus I can usually remember what I post and where!

[ShadowMaat]

on the plus side, ya got yer nirrti avatar! :) i know this is a place for rage, but still.
Yes, true, but NOW, as it turns out... those lovely admin messages I've been receiving? Fake. All three of them.

I was going to leave the whole mess up to Adele to handle, since she's the actual honcho of the group, but I got fed up and decided to look over it myself. Clicked the "scan for viruses" link and whaddaya know- the attachments for Message 1 contained the W32 worm. So did Messages 2 and 3. So I'm right back where I started. I do get some sick sort of satisfaction from the fact that the Yahoo admin accounts are being scammed, too. I reported the messages to the proper authorities (ha!) so I guess now all I have to do is move on. No use waiting since the stupid b@stards won't be able to do anything anyway. *sigh* It has been a VERY long day. :( Maybe I'll go off to my Sulk Thread and have Luke whip up something special for me and then Jonas can comfort me. :D

[stargate barbie]

you sulk, dear. sulk. OR! just think of jonas in a tight tee shirt. :D mmmm, season 6, mmmm.

[ShadowMaat]

OR! just think of jonas in a tight tee shirt. :D mmmm, season 6, mmmm.
Oh, I think I'll leave the t-shirt out of the picture. Among other things. :D

But hey! Rage thread! Er! Can I rage about the fact that TPTB have made Stargate unwatchable to me? I can't enjoy it anymore. Even the older eps, now, tend to make me a little upset. I keep thinking things like, "See? THAT'S how it's done!" and, "Why did you send Jonas away??" and "Subtlety! Look! You used to know what it meant!" and other such discouraging thoughts....

[stargate barbie]

hey, if its about stargate, and it bugs you, you can rage about it. the whole idea of this thread is that you can rant about stargate without persecution. although if we could stop it from turning into a ship rage thread that would be great, because i'm not sure, but i think we have enough places to rage and rant about ship. i know i do! :D thats not to say that you are forbidden from mentioning anything that could ever possibly be interpreted as a ship reference here :p but i will say that thats pretty much why i haven't (to my knowledge) expressed my rage about pete here. i don't want it to turn into that kind of thread. :)

i miss jonas. they don't bring him back anywhere near enough IMO. :(
but it did bug me that he had the same hair as his girlfriend when they did bring him back. and i didn't much care for her either, goa'uld or not. ggrrr.

[Nolamom]

"Subtlety! Look! You used to know what it meant!"

Some episodes were more subtle than others, of course.
http://hometown.aol.com/greatgmas/images/pdl%20urgo%20crop.gif
(I love Urgo!)
Nmom

[stargate barbie]

Some episodes were more subtle than others, of course.
http://hometown.aol.com/greatgmas/images/pdl%20urgo%20crop.gif
(I love Urgo!)
Nmom
I. LOVE. THAT. EPISODE!

especially PDL's little cameo. i love dom deluise. does anyone else think that shatner would make a good goa'uld? (i have no idea why i just thought of that :confused: )

[ShadowMaat]

i miss jonas. they don't bring him back anywhere near enough IMO. :(
A lot of people miss Jonas. Unfortunately, TPTB aren't part of that lot. :mad: I know I don't know what "really" happened and I know I never will, but it still seems like a shoddy, horrible thing to do to Corin and I applaud his absolute professionalism in not speaking out against them or the decision. More people should learn from his example.




but it did bug me that he had the same hair as his girlfriend when they did bring him back. and i didn't much care for her either, goa'uld or not. ggrrr.
*sigh* Argh, the hair. And Jonas could do SO much better than that snake! :P Poor thing. HE'S probably the one in need of consoling right now. Wouldn't mind stepping in to help him out. ;)

[stargate barbie]

it wasn't just the fact that she was a goa'uld, i didn't like her before we knew that, i didn't like her after they removed it. i found her just plain irritating. possibly more so than laira, who in my book was quite possibly the most annoying and irritating character so far. i can't help but think sometimes that laira was perhaps supposed to be irritating. i actually have a difficult time rewatching that episode sometimes, just because i can't stand the character. there are very few episodes that i find like that. and usually the character i find so annoying has a bigger part in the episode.

the same goes for jonas' girlfriend, which is a shame because i really quite liked the episode other than that. i just don't tend to rewatch it just because i find her irritating. :(

[Jprime]

:eek: Heres another rage: In Tribunal (the one with the mongols), why on abydos are they speaking flawless english??? They go through all th trouble to make em believable and then shoot it all to sokar.

[stargate barbie]

you mean emancipation in season 1?
well its simple. as any qualified sci-fiologist can tell you, when one goes to an alien planet, the natives can either speak perfect english, or can learn to speak perfect english very quickly. unless of course the plot requires otherwise, which is an extremely rare occurance.

i see where you're coming from though. it always bugged me that on abydos a lot of the abydonians had learned to speak english. daniel was the only english speaker among them, and he had no difficulty learning they're language. why would they need to learn his?
and the fact that the goa'ulds and jaffa all speak english as a first language. most of the hosts original languages shouldn't have been english. the jaffa are not decendants of english speakers (as far as we know), so why do they all speak english. especially the jaffa, they would have no reason to know english as they are supposed to be slaves. its just one of those amiricanised sci-fi things that has always been present, and due to the extreme cost and effort saving involved, most likely always will be.

sci-fi rule #1 all alien races speak the language most convienient to the plot (usually english), regardless of accuracy or realism.

[Jprime]

maybe the abydonians were curious?

[ShadowMaat]

In the movie novels, Daniel and Shau'ri set up classes to teach the Abydans all kinds of things- including speaking English. But that was because the military was a constant presence and because Daniel was working for the betterment of all the Abydans.

Not that TV-Daniel was probably much different in the urge to teach thing, but you do have to wonder why he'd bother with English if they buried the gate and/or had no intention of ever communicating with Earth again.

[Bagpuss]

Trouble is,if the PTB were to stick to native tongues and Alien languages every time SG-1 ventures through the Stargate,they'd either have to provide sub-titles or settle for a viewing audience of Linguistics experts and their pet cats!! ;)

I don't want to miss the action,because of having to read the s/titles all the way through the episodes!

Plot contrivance,home-made homage time: Pretend every single character has been issued a "Babel Fish". (Universal Translator idea from "Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy") :cool:

[ShadowMaat]

Plot contrivance,home-made homage time: Pretend every single character has been issued a "Babel Fish". (Universal Translator idea from "Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy") :cool:
I always liked the idea of the stargate messing around with things as you transmit through it. Maybe it picks up on your core language and does something to your neural alignment to make you more receptive to other languages. You may think you're hearing and speaking English when you aren't. And we hear the English because the team does. :P

Of course, that has its own host of problems, but it's better than a babelfish. :P

[Bagpuss]

I always liked the idea of the stargate messing around with things as you transmit through it. Maybe it picks up on your core language and does something to your neural alignment to make you more receptive to other languages. You may think you're hearing and speaking English when you aren't. And we hear the English because the team does. :P

Of course, that has its own host of problems, but it's better than a babelfish. :P

I like your explanation,sounds V. Cool as a serious Sci-Fi explanation!
Worthy of usage,IMO..............

Nah! Still Babel Fish for me! If only because the great,late, Douglas Adams invented it! ;)

[stargate barbie]

ah. stargates own universal translator. i prefer to think that the sci fi gods are on sg-1s side. they give all the non english speaking races to sg-5, because they disrespect the sci fi gods. and they don't even have a daniel, the gods killed their daniel, just to make life more difficult for them. and they don't have a gate expert because hammond didn't like them too much either and hoped that they'd get stuck on an alien world without any knowledge of the language.

and who was behind this nefarious scheme? thats right kids, you guessed it. luke!
now lets all join together in an evil laugh...
mmmwwwwaaaaaa hhaaa hhaaaa haaaa!

[ShadowMaat]

and who was behind this nefarious scheme? thats right kids, you guessed it. luke!
Wooo! Go Luke!! Although of course, he'd be finding some way to arrange a "temporary assignment" to SG-5 for Daniel and then strand the whole team on some doomed world with a dead DHD and a lot of hostile natives Daniel mysteriously can't understand due to a slight case of food poisoning...

[ShadowMaat]

OK, I'm being horrible and posting twice in a row, but... I just started thinking: there's really something to be said about the fact that Jonas only took one little duffle bag with him when he left Earth. Now, exactly what it says is a matter for debate. Most likely it's a sad comment on the fact that after an entire year on Earth, he still hadn't gathered much in the way of trinkets, mementos, and personal belongings. Probably because most of his stuff was "borrowed" from the base or directly from Daniel (the whole "aren't those MY tools?" thing). I can't help thinking that the only thing in the duffle was the uniform he'd worn to Earth... and maybe his notebooks. :(

Or for all you pathetic Sunny Side people, maybe he saw his work on Kelowna as only being "temporary" and he just took a bare minimum of things and had every intention of returning...

I wish. :(

[stargate barbie]

i can picture it now.
Luke: say general, don't you think sg-5 have had a pretty rough time of it lately, what with all those planets they seem to end up on, where the natives speak a language unknown to them?
Hammond: you know, you're right son. i think i'll send a linguist along with them on their next mission, just in case.
Luke: well sir, i think dr jackson is the best we've got here, don't you think.
Hammond: absolutely son, i'll go speak to him now.
Luke: well sir, if you are speaking to him, be sure to give him this chocolate bar for me, wont you sir
Hammond (looks mildly confused): ehm, yes. sure thing son.
hammond leaves. luke picks up the phone and starts dialing
Luke: hello, jay? is that you? yeah, listen, i've been thinking about what you said about wanting to prove yourself to major carter, colonel o'neill and the general? well i think you should just go to the gate room when its not busy, and upload your avenger virus to this address........

[Bagpuss]

To Shadow: (*Post #151 about Jonas*)

So do I ,Shadow!

Hopefully ,there might be more of Jonas in S8,but if there isn't,I'll be disappointed too. :(

If PTB etc, don't deliver, I suppose you could write some more Jonas stories.

At least that way,you could steer the character any way you like..... :D


Oh Yes.... and LUKE.TONS MORE LUKE!!!! :D

[ShadowMaat]

Luke: hello, jay? is that you? yeah, listen, i've been thinking about what you said about wanting to prove yourself to major carter, colonel o'neill and the general? well i think you should just go to the gate room when its not busy, and upload your avenger virus to this address........
LOL! Brilliance. Sheer brilliance. ;) And then Felger takes the blame for things going wrong and gets fired, thereby keeping him away from Major Carter. Double whammy. :D

[stargate barbie]

LOL! Brilliance. Sheer brilliance. ;) And then Felger takes the blame for things going wrong and gets fired, thereby keeping him away from Major Carter. Double whammy. :D
yes yes yes. but! i think we are all forgetting one very important thing here. after the whole fiasco, luke comforts carter because she's just lost her friend daniel, as well as an sg team AND! felger splilt a cup of coffee on one of the computers in the control room.

luke: oh yeaaahhhh!

[Iskandra]

Trouble is,if the PTB were to stick to native tongues and Alien languages every time SG-1 ventures through the Stargate,they'd either have to provide sub-titles or settle for a viewing audience of Linguistics experts and their pet cats!! ;)


I'd be happy, but the rest of the world probably wouldn't. And make that, in my case, 10 pet cats. They like to hunt stuff on the telly ;)

I'm just afraid the viewing figures would rapidly drop....but come on, NOW and THEN just ONE episode that linguists can have fun with? And NOT because someone whacks poor Daniel, or something like that?

And yeah, if it has Jonas as well, I'd be one happy cookie.

[Bagpuss]

OMG!! Please tell me I didn't insult you, Iskandra!! :o :eek:

I didn't mean to cause any offence,honestly!

That was just a jokey thing I came up with,not an attack.Huge Oops....

To make my meaning clear,my fave teacher at High School was a Classics Master,and used to spend Friday lunchtimes, showing Greek legend vids, and trying to run a "Greco-Roman Appreciation Club".

Sad to admit,I was his only regular attendee,....apart from his beautiful Lilac-Point Siamese cat!!

Oh Dear,I wish I'd explained all that in the first place.......... :o

Deepest respect to you, and your 10 cats,Iskandra, and much sincere support for your idea of a real,informed, episode for you and others like Neith to enjoy!

If that episode also contained Jonas I'd be in a state of Bliss too. :D

[Nolamom]

In all of their travels, when they phone home, why don't they ever get a wrong number - MY HOUSE? hmmm?

http://hometown.aol.com/greatgmas/images/fluffy%20communication.gif

Just kidding of course.
Nmom

[Iskandra]

OMG!! Please tell me I didn't insult you, Iskandra!! :o :eek:

I didn't mean to cause any offence,honestly!

That was just a jokey thing I came up with,not an attack.Huge Oops....

:D
Hey, I'm used to being insulted :D (some of my friends like to do that, saying nasty things about linguists and geeks and stuff...), but I have my cats to console me ;)

Heck yeah, give us both Daniel and Jonas and a lot of linguist speak - for the people who are not exactly linguistically inclined - they can have Daniel and Jonas to ogle at?

[stargate barbie]

Hey, I'm used to being insulted :D (some of my friends like to do that, saying nasty things about linguists and geeks and stuff...), but I have my cats to console me ;)

Heck yeah, give us both Daniel and Jonas and a lot of linguist speak - for the people who are not exactly linguistically inclined - they can have Daniel and Jonas to ogle at?
ya know you could train your cats to become an army that attacks anyone who insults you.

i have waaay too much time on my hands... wow! :D

i wouldn't mind the occasional episode where the alien race speaks another language, or a variation of a human language even. and i can't even speak the languages i studies at school. cos i'm stupid. :(

[stargate barbie]

Hey, I'm used to being insulted :D (some of my friends like to do that, saying nasty things about linguists and geeks and stuff...), but I have my cats to console me ;)

Heck yeah, give us both Daniel and Jonas and a lot of linguist speak - for the people who are not exactly linguistically inclined - they can have Daniel and Jonas to ogle at?
ya know you could train your cats to become an army that attacks anyone who insults you.

i have waaay too much time on my hands... wow! :D

i wouldn't mind the occasional episode where the alien race speaks another language, or a variation of a human language even. and i can't even speak the languages i studied at school. cos i'm stupid. :(

[Livi2Jack]

I have said for years that Shatner should guest as a goauld....anyone listening?!

[KokiriChild]

Shatner would be a good Goa'uld, but I think Patrick Stuart should appear somewhere

[GuyFromOH]

I have said for years that Shatner should guest as a goauld....anyone listening?!

That hack is one of the worst actors of all time. If he did have a guest spot, it would only be good if he were a Jaffa that got shot before he got a chance to open his mouth.

[KokiriChild]

Oooh, put them claws away!

Maybe he could turn up and wander why they didn't name it "Enterprise"?

[Kliggins]

In all of their travels, when they phone home, why don't they ever get a wrong number - MY HOUSE? hmmm?

http://hometown.aol.com/greatgmas/images/fluffy%20communication.gif

Just kidding of course.
Nmom

ROFL. Love seeing Fluffy in the communication thingy! :D

[KokiriChild]

Have you considered starting a thread just for fluffy Nmom?

[Bagpuss]

She already has! It's in the Forum Play Zone.....Neat Thread too! :D

"The Travels Of Fluffy The Destroyer"......coming to ankles near you.(Or anyone else that's handy......;) )

[KokiriChild]

And I missed it? Damn and blast!

[Bagpuss]

Hey, I'm used to being insulted :D (some of my friends like to do that, saying nasty things about linguists and geeks and stuff...), but I have my cats to console me ;)

Heck yeah, give us both Daniel and Jonas and a lot of linguist speak - for the people who are not exactly linguistically inclined - they can have Daniel and Jonas to ogle at?

If anyone gets too cheeky,set the cats on them,Iskandra !!

Regarding your episode ideas: I'll second all that! :D

[ShadowMaat]

Can I gripe about all the server problems? Not being able to access the forums is proving to be very detrimental to my coworkers. ;) They said I was much talkier and snarkier than usual. I blamed it on Gateworld being down- no way for me to vent. :P

I'm also afraid to gripe about Stargate things here 'cause I don't want someone b*tching about how I'm negative and never have anything nice to say about the show. :P

[Bagpuss]

If anyone "Comes back on you" here,I'd be:

A) Very Surprised! This is "The Recliner Of Rage" after all .......... ;)

B) Amused,as obviously they couldn't have read the Bl#### Title!! :)

[KokiriChild]

That's why this is a rage thread - nobody can have a go at you for raging

[Bagpuss]

Exactly!!! ;)

[ShadowMaat]

That's why this is a rage thread - nobody can have a go at you for raging
HA! You don't know people very well, do you?? :P

[KokiriChild]

HA! You don't know people very well, do you?? :P
Ok, so maybe I can only speak for myself, but go ahead and post what you like, I'll defend you or die trying

[stargate barbie]

I'm also afraid to gripe about Stargate things here 'cause I don't want someone b*tching about how I'm negative and never have anything nice to say about the show.


hey shadowmaat. read the first post on this thread. if anyone has a problem with the whole point of this thread, then they probably shouldn't be participating in it. people can only defend their position by making a counter argument or debating the points made here. NO FLAMES ALLOWED. i should have put that on the first post, but i'm stupid so i forgot. if a problem arises, then i'll go back and edit the first post to include that.

basically, people cannot moan at you hear for stating your opinion as long as it is well thought out and not just something along the lines of "stargates crap" and thats all.

the whole point of this thread is to give you a refuge, a place to vent your rage without getting an earful about your "negativity". (and if you happen to mention the good ol' days, when you liked SG, i'm sure we wont complain too much about that. :)

my only request is that we leave ship discussions to the ship discussion thread as much as possible. i'm sure most of us wont mind the occasional reference, but there are plenty of other threads for ship.

now, what is it you'd like to rage about dear? anything in particular? :D

[stargate barbie]

Ok, so maybe I can only speak for myself, but go ahead and post what you like, I'll defend you or die trying

you're ever so heroic! :p

[KokiriChild]

Damn straight, although I'm not too sure on this whole "wear your underwear on the outside" thing...

[ShadowMaat]

now, what is it you'd like to rage about dear? anything in particular? :D
Actually, nothing springs to mind at the moment. ;) At least, nothing new. hehe.

How about I hate that they've never actually SAID what those stripes on the floors of the SGC mean? Sure, we all know they lead to various places, but no one has ever SAID, "the blue stripe takes you to the medical wing" or "the green stripe takes you to the living quarters" or whatever. Very sloppy of them, if you ask me. :P

[KokiriChild]

Actually, nothing springs to mind at the moment. ;) At least, nothing new. hehe.

How about I hate that they've never actually SAID what those stripes on the floors of the SGC mean? Sure, we all know they lead to various places, but no one has ever SAID, "the blue stripe takes you to the medical wing" or "the green stripe takes you to the living quarters" or whatever. Very sloppy of them, if you ask me. :P
Damn straight, and anyone who wishes to defy Shadow has to go through me first...


(Offer not applicable to Re'tu or other "out of phase" races & anyone possesing phase-shifting technology.)

[stargate barbie]

i agree. personally i think its just a production slip up and they're actually the actors markers

[KokiriChild]

Or bicycle tracks incase they get stuck in a time-loop once again

[ShadowMaat]

Or bicycle tracks incase they get stuck in a time-loop once again
I'm wondering why they have a potter's wheel on the base.

Or is that part of the secret operation to manufacture cheap "replicas" of offworld pottery and sell them off to the highest (and unsuspecting) bidder?

[KokiriChild]

It's so when Daniel doesn't find anything on a planet, jack and break a pot into a few tiny pieces, cover them in dirt, take them to Daniel and say "Look what I've found"

[ShadowMaat]

It's so when Daniel doesn't find anything on a planet, jack and break a pot into a few tiny pieces, cover them in dirt, take them to Daniel and say "Look what I've found"
I should think that Daniel would be the one faking the potsherds. "We can't leave now! The glyphs on these shards are written in the language of the Ancients! Er... no, the paint isn't still wet, it just LOOKS wet! Must be some amazing Ancient technology that gives it that wet look. All the more reason for us to stay and investigate. What we learn here could change everything we know- or thought we knew- about the field of pottery... forever!"

[stargate barbie]

or maybe its so that jack or teal'c can make replicas of the artifacts they bring back, and break them in front of daniel and make him cry! :D

[KokiriChild]

Hehehe, or they're for throwing at Maybourne/Kinsey.

[stargate barbie]

OR! they're just to make their rooms look fancy.

[KokiriChild]

Maybe Luke's crew are crud at washing up - or Daniel leaves his mugs all over the base, so rather than spending $12.4m per year on mugs (the Airforce would find SOME way of doing it ;)) they make their own?

[ShadowMaat]

Maybe Luke's crew are crud at washing up - or Daniel leaves his mugs all over the base, so rather than spending $12.4m per year on mugs (the Airforce would find SOME way of doing it ;)) they make their own?
Then Luke can mix arsenic into the clay and kill off his chosen victims (*cough*Daniel*cough*) slowly without anyone ever suspecting...

[stargate barbie]

ya know what enrages me? that my freakin' dvd's take so long to arrive in the post. i'm gonna have to wait until mid next week now to get vol. 36 because its a long weekend here. and apparently it was dispatched on monday. why must it always take about a week and a half for my new dvd's!?! why!?! :mad:

[KokiriChild]

Because "The Man" is evil.

[stargate barbie]

Then Luke can mix arsenic into the clay and kill off his chosen victims (*cough*Daniel*cough*) slowly without anyone ever suspecting...

and he makes him a "special" mug with his name on it or some lame archeaology joke on it like "archeaologists like it dirty" or something. and then buries daniel with his favourite mug so that nobody can ever discover his terrible (and yet brilliant) secret. *insert evil laugh here*

[stargate barbie]

Because "The Man" is evil.
you mean "the establishment"? or "the machine"? this would explain my fondness for "rage against the machine". hhmmm. you are wise kokirichild. truly you are the hero of legend. we must rely upon you to save the land of hyrule... ah nuts i've gotten all confused again! :p

[ShadowMaat]

and he makes him a "special" mug with his name on it or some lame archeaology joke on it like "archeaologists like it dirty" or something. and then buries daniel with his favourite mug so that nobody can ever discover his terrible (and yet brilliant) secret. *insert evil laugh here*
Archaeologists do it in the dirt.
or
An archaeologist's career is always in ruins.

And then have it written in Latin or something clever like that.

[stargate barbie]

ooh i like the latin thing. daniel would definitely fall for that. he'd have to leave it in his lab with a note suggesting it was from sam or something i think. or just fill it with coffee actually, no questions asked then eh?

oh that luke's a crafty one!

[ShadowMaat]

oh that luke's a crafty one!
Literally, if he's making mugs. ;)

[stargate barbie]

Literally, if he's making mugs. ;)
OH! i see whatcha did there. you're good. you. you're good you are. :cool: :rolleyes:

[Torley]

or maybe its so that jack or teal'c can make replicas of the artifacts they bring back, and break them in front of daniel and make him cry! :D

Ha, that's hilarious. I'd really like to see that.

Teal'c: "I am sorry Daniel Jackson... I did not realize the intrinsic value of that vase." *arches one eyebrow*

*O'Neill rubs his face with one hand, tosses a cat sculpture against the wall with another*

[stargate barbie]

Ha, that's hilarious. I'd really like to see that.

Teal'c: "I am sorry Daniel Jackson... I did not realize the intrinsic value of that vase." *arches one eyebrow*

*O'Neill rubs his face with one hand, tosses a cat sculpture against the wall with another*

one word. "juggling" (its kind of a funny word too, dontcha think?) :D

[ShadowMaat]

"We've secretly replaced Dr. Daniel Jackson's priceless artifacts with cheap imitations. Let's see if he notices..."

[Jafana]

I must apologise for the odd post I put up yesterday. My only excuse is that I had just started on some fairly strong medication, and my brain was off with the fairies.

My point was that if O'Niell doesn't want to know the reason why something was happening, not happening, going right, going wrong, would work, wouldn't work or was or wasn't readable, then why did he bother asking? He knows his two top explainers are Supreme Geeks in their own fields of expertise, and he can trust them, so why not go with the flow, man? I mean, just chill, set a spell, kick ya shoes off. Y'all come back now, ya'owl.
(sorry, I think the drugs DO work!) :D

but he does want to know. he just wants the simplified version. (as do us poor viewers.)

[stargate barbie]

"We've secretly replaced Dr. Daniel Jackson's priceless artifacts with cheap imitations. Let's see if he notices..."

for some strange reason teal'c just happened to be passing by with his novelty staff weapon with the hidden camera inside.

[ShadowMaat]

Forgery! Ha! That's the word I've been trying to think of since we started this all. Not replicas, but forgeries! *sigh* Stupid brain is operating a little sluggisly tonight...

[Jafana]

whoops. sorry, lol

completely forgot this thread had so many posts on it.

i've sort of butted in on a convo.

please ignore.

[ShadowMaat]

please ignore.
Hmm? Sorry, did you say something? 'Cause I always ignore you anyway. ;)

j/k. No worries about "interrupting". We're sort of veering off topic, anyway. Technically. Sorta. Maybe. Er... Oh look, the artifact... :P

Hmm... but is it a real artifact, or a forgery? :D

[Torley]

HAHAHA... yes, I KNEW that juggling had to come in handy sooner or later!

I'd like to see Jackson be the voice of reason amidst all that chaos... "Oh my gosh, Jack, what did you just do with that scepter of Zeus?!? Why'd you break it over your knee? Don't you REALIZE how all the secrets of humanity are stored within it? All that knowledge is now lost forever!" *adjusts his glasses*

I know that's more early-season Daniel type behavior, but still . . . :)

[stargate barbie]

HAHAHA... yes, I KNEW that juggling had to come in handy sooner or later!

I'd like to see Jackson be the voice of reason amidst all that chaos... "Oh my gosh, Jack, what did you just do with that scepter of Zeus?!? Why'd you break it over your knee? Don't you REALIZE how all the secrets of humanity are stored within it? All that knowledge is now lost forever!" *adjusts his glasses*

I know that's more early-season Daniel type behavior, but still . . . :)

thus daniel expresses HIS rage, hence bringing this thread back on topic, oh yeah! :D

[stargate barbie]

whoops. sorry, lol

completely forgot this thread had so many posts on it.

i've sort of butted in on a convo.

please ignore.

wait. there was a conversation going on in here? what?

[ShadowMaat]

Ya ever get the strange feeling someone is messing with your head? Barbie? ;) I'm happy enough to have plan boy onboard, although I'm not quite sure why he's here and I'm beginning to wonder if it's all an act. I know he's only seen a few eps, but his descriptions just sound... odd. But then again, I'm a naturally suspicious person. ;)

[stargate barbie]

Ya ever get the strange feeling someone is messing with your head? Barbie? ;) I'm happy enough to have plan boy onboard, although I'm not quite sure why he's here and I'm beginning to wonder if it's all an act. I know he's only seen a few eps, but his descriptions just sound... odd. But then again, I'm a naturally suspicious person. ;)
curses, she's followed me all the way over here too :p and yes, i think you might just be right about that. of course its possible that you've just planted that thought in my head. i'm confused :confused:

[ShadowMaat]

curses, she's followed me all the way over here too :p and yes, i think you might just be right about that. of course its possible that you've just planted that thought in my head. i'm confused :confused:
Muahaha. There is no escape! ;)

We'll have to keep an eye on Mr. Plan. That nonsense about a Day After Tomorrow series is probably just a smokescreen for whatever nefarious plan he's attempting to carry out! :S

Or maybe he's Roland Emmerich in disguise! :eek:

Or maybe I invented him myself as a way of testing you... *cues spooky music*

[Shipperahoy]

I agree on the whole waiting for the stupid dvd's to come out. I keep hearing the people from across the pond describing the audio commentaries on the season 7 dvd's and it's driving me batty. I want my dvd's NOW! Patience is not my strong suit.

Oh and btw Shadow, you're bi***y and you're always negative. I don't see why you can't just conform and wax poetic on the wonder that is Stargate SG-1. :p

[Torley]

My rage is against SUB-Vice President Kinsey... what a sleaze! I wanna see him get punished, bigtime, by series' end!! Here's a few others I want to see get their proper comeuppance on the show, courtesy of SG-1 and friends (I hope O'Neill at least throws a few one-liners their way before they bite it!)... may be SPOILERS in the following speculation:

WHITE SPACE BELOW, HIGHLIGHT TO READ

-those boring Aschen! boo!! Would be irony if their bioweapon was turned against them

-Fifth and the other Replicators... yes, they are a cool enemy, and I actually liked Fifth and first and don't "blame" him for having his humanity against him, but I have a feeling he's about to turn downright despicable for what he does to Major Carter looking at the early photos. Up to this point, battle with Replicators has been a stalemate but I'd like to see a decisive, crippling blow that would strike fear in the hearts of these machines -- it would be an empowering moment!

-whoever they set up as the chief new Goa'uld baddie of the season (I liked Apophis' death scene)

-since Anubis looks like he'll be returning, if he shows up in that cloak and mash, I wanna good MASK-SMASHING moment and humiliation for him worse than how Cyrus died at the end of Con Air ;)

-I'd like to see Sam beat down another man who suppresses her, like she did in that episode where she had to fight the Mongolian chieftan... Daniel and Teal'c should get their fare share of one-on-one baddie bashing too! Maybe Daniel would blow away a desecrator of artifacts in his best interests to preserve human culture across the galaxy, and Teal'c of course would be freeing his people and showing them that a Goa'uld is not a god by killing him up close and personal!!

[KokiriChild]

you mean "the establishment"? or "the machine"? this would explain my fondness for "rage against the machine". hhmmm. you are wise kokirichild. truly you are the hero of legend. we must rely upon you to save the land of hyrule... ah nuts i've gotten all confused again! :p
No, no, you're quite right - just inbetween my quests I sit at home, me and Epona, watching SG1. And "The Man" is another term for Gannon ;)

[stargate barbie]

day six of the dvd torture. its sunday now. tomorrow is bank holiday, must wait at least two more days for dvds. i think i'm going insane. :S

of course that could just be the influence of shadow. hhmmm.

its a good thing i'm not counting down to the new season, i just can't deal with all this stress! i need my new stargates! maybe we can send link... i mean, kokirichild ;) on a quest to get my dvds from an post a few days early.

[Bagpuss]

Think soothing thoughts,and try not to lapse into chewing the furniture!
(You'll need something to sit on when the much awaited items arrive. ;) )

You can do this! The Force is strong in you! :)

[Jprime]

I agree on the whole waiting for the stupid dvd's to come out. I keep hearing the people from across the pond describing the audio commentaries on the season 7 dvd's and it's driving me batty. I want my dvd's NOW! Patience is not my strong suit.

Oh and btw Shadow, you're bi***y and you're always negative. I don't see why you can't just conform and wax poetic on the wonder that is Stargate SG-1. :p

lol ur just bitter thats she's got more posts than u! ;)

[stargate barbie]

I GOT THE DVDS! rage ended. :D

[Bagpuss]

At last!! :D (About time too,you ordered the DVDs weeks ago !)
Your rage may be at an end,but I'm willing to bet there will be plenty other subjects for us all to "rage" about, on this Thread, 'ere long............. ;)

[Thor's Pal]

Ok, I know this might belong under an Atlantis thread and I'm sorry if this has already been posted.

The biggest thing that is bothering me on the whole Atlantis spinoff is not the fact that it is a one way trip, but they are acting like there will never be in contact with Earth again. What good does it to send all of those personal, supplies ect into Pegaesse to explore and find more tecnology to protect Earth and not expect to hear from them untill they find enought power to gate back- especally when they don't have to gate back to Earth for info. The SGC now knows how much power it will take to gate there, so the SGC now knows how many naquada generators to build to make up for the power requirements. Besides, have ever know of any military to fund a exploration and not have some form of comunitaction for status reports. All that could happen is SGC will gate out once a month, find out what SGA needs in resupply, transmit all computer files generated in the previous month, give personal change to transmit e-mails to families. And then the bases go their seperate ways for another month.

Isn't that resonable?

[Ladytalon]

The one thing that bothered me most about Season 8 was Teal'c. I love Teal'c, I really do... but I think the growth of hair messed with his brain because he was so misogynistic in this particular season. It really came out whenever he was around any of Moloc's female Jaffa - he would always interrupt with "Jaffa! HEAR ME just because my reproductive organs are on the outside rather than the inside, etc.!" and run roughshod over every little thing the women did/said.

It got to the point where I practically knew what to expect whenever I saw that Christopher Judge had written an Season 8 episode and, sadly, I was never pleasantly disappointed.

However, Seasons 9 and 10 saw the return of the Teal'c I knew and loved.

I'm thinkin' it was the hair gel that saved his soul.

[PG15]

Well, he WAS misogynistic, at least with Jaffa females. After all, how many times did he refer to his wife as "women"?

"Don't test my temper women!"

And so forth.

[Krisz]

True, why else did some female Jaffa run off and set up their own camp on another planet where they could be warriors without men shouting "Woman, hear me!" or order them gruffly to go and get their kinsfolk to hear what Teal'c has to say about freedom??? for all Jaffa.....huh huh?! LOL! ;) :D

[ShadowMaat]

Ye gods! Zombie thread! Run for your liiiives! http://www.freethought-forum.com/forum/images/smilies/_zombieglomp__by_MisterIngo.gif

Wow. The ol' Rage thread. Just look at some of the names! JP, Teal'c, KC, lotta good people not around anymore. And wow, I was on everyone's bad side right from the beginning, wasn't I? And OMG! LUKE! Gods, yes, I think Atlantis could be saved by the addition of Luke. There'd be lemon chicken in the commissary every night. LOL!

I'm still making some of the same complaints now that I made then. Which is rage-worthy since obviously some people never learn. :P

Anyway, I'll keep reminiscing and post my thoughts elsewhere. As for Teal'c, yeah, I'd say he's pretty heavily biased against the females of his own people but a little more open-minded when it comes to the ones from other planets. I guess that's one way of showing how some people, no matter how much they grow/progress, tend to fall back on bad habits when they go home. ;) I'd be more annoyed if he treated ALL women like that. Disparaging female jaffa is still bad, but at least I can see a weird (if fallible) logic to it.

Can I rage about Shep? And McKay? And how pretty much every plot revolves around one or both of them? Rage against Teyla getting sidelined, even in her own stories. Rage against her major story arc revolving around her reproductive organs (which are on the inside) and the fact that she was only given that much because of Rachel's pregnancy. Rage against the loss of Ford and how his replacement is equally sidelined, just buffer.

Boy, I bet most of those are tired old rages, too. Umm... Rage against the color pink and all instances of its appearance on Atlantis. Bet I never complained about THAT before! :P