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LordRush
April 26th, 2011, 05:49 PM
I really like the idea of Varro and TJ as a couple. I was hoping that finally they would hook up, but this episode just killed it. I mean they just trashed all the romance between TJ and Varro that we have seen in season 2.

garhkal
April 26th, 2011, 07:07 PM
I think TJ saw varro more as a hook up.. but young was dependable..

morbosfist
April 26th, 2011, 07:12 PM
It's hardly trashed. Varro is alive and just saved TJ's life at the near-cost of his own. The alternate TJ hadn't gotten as close to him.

Phenom
April 26th, 2011, 07:15 PM
Nah this is just an alternate reality version of events that would have no bearing on the crew we have been watching.

Besides, 2 eps left, not really a lot is going to be resolved in that time.

Gollumpus
April 26th, 2011, 07:20 PM
It's hardly trashed. Varro is alive and just saved TJ's life at the near-cost of his own. The alternate TJ hadn't gotten as close to him.

Or maybe she had. I saw it as "other" Young and "other" TJ getting a chance to spend more time with one another which led to them renewing their relationship. The relationship between "our" Young and TJ is actually still strong, as witnessed by Young coming down with the second shuttle to see TJ and give her comfort.

regards,
G.

AndSoItBegins
April 26th, 2011, 09:10 PM
I really like the idea of Varro and TJ as a couple. I was hoping that finally they would hook up, but this episode just killed it. I mean they just trashed all the romance between TJ and Varro that we have seen in season 2.



I'm sorry but this comes across as more whiny shipper nonsense.

And what is all this "romance" you are referring to? The only truly romantic moment between TJ and Varro came in their almost-kiss in "The Hunt". But in the Nouvous reality that moment never occurred because the crew didn't make it that far.

It comes down to this....in the "other" reality Young dropped his guard and became the type of partner TJ needed in a relationship. If they had stayed on Destiny, like our crew does, Young may have kept a stoic, emotional distance.

kimmyg
April 27th, 2011, 03:34 PM
Young saved Varro from certain death, so he earned some much needed brownie points with TJ. Varro clearly saw that Young still has strong feelings for TJ so maybe he'll back away. Of course, Varro now needs tender care so he can ingratiate himself to TJ because Young has to run the ship. Those two men are going to confuse her more.

I think TJ is even more in dire straits than in previous episodes; even after loosing the baby and finding out it was all Destiny in her head. I think her attention is going focus on finding the cure to her illness. Trying to figure out which man to set her flag will distract her attention. True, she should want some much needed comfort and a shoulder to cry on. Hopefully it will be to my main guy, Young.

Python
April 27th, 2011, 05:05 PM
Stupid.

This episode was Stargate 90210 on steroids.

LordRush
April 27th, 2011, 07:36 PM
It will be interesting to see what happens but with just 2 episodes left I doubt anything will be figured out. As some of you reminded us with only 2 episodes left.

LordRush
April 27th, 2011, 07:39 PM
Stupid.

This episode was Stargate 90210 on steroids.

Oh trust me it could be worse! Im rewatching season 1 right now and the whole Scott/Chloe/Eli/James quadrangle of doom is making me nauseated :S

Puddle-Jumper
April 27th, 2011, 07:43 PM
Everythings thinking it so Im just going to say it



threesome

Duneknight
April 27th, 2011, 07:44 PM
im glad she didnt fall for that thug. im sure hes a decent guy, but LA dont have snakes inside them controlling them and they arent infected by a bug; they are people who chose to murder and kill for money and power.

Duneknight
April 27th, 2011, 07:46 PM
Everythings thinking it so Im just going to say it



threesome


Save it for the reboot.

Puddle-Jumper
April 27th, 2011, 08:01 PM
Save it for the reboot.

Or the porn parody

themyst
April 27th, 2011, 08:09 PM
I like the idea of Varro and TJ. I was disappointed in the alternate reality scene where TJ and Young were together.

Even though there wasn't an outright declaration of their feelings yet, clearly there has been this powerful, unspoken attraction between them. I hope it becomes official in one of these last two episodes.

Duneknight
April 27th, 2011, 08:17 PM
shes gonna die anyway, so she'll probably wanna get her wild on with some Lucian Alliance dude. plus he saved her life. Young is indeed in trouble, too bad that we will never see that tension.

Keeper
April 27th, 2011, 08:21 PM
im glad she didnt fall for that thug. im sure hes a decent guy, but LA dont have snakes inside them controlling them and they arent infected by a bug; they are people who chose to murder and kill for money and power.

thug?

the LA took advantage of a power vacuum, and while they obviously have a way of doing things, it's also obvious that they don't all kill just everyone. that woman who led them at first was relatively peaceful, killing only if she was given a reason to. ginn was taken to be a scientist, but being completely honest: it's probably a lot better a life than she would have had if she didn't go with the LA.

varro is clearly capable and competent, but he knows how to work with others too. unlike the guy who killed mandy/ginn, varro is prepared to co-operate with earth. he's also willing to put his, and the lives of his own team, on the line for TJ - though how much of that is personal and how much is for the greater good is unclear.

i'm not a fan of varro, but i respect and appreciate how the character has been portrayed, since he could so easily have been used to enforce the whole idea of the LA being the modern goa'uld. they're not - the goa'uld seemed to kill as often for the pleasure as they did to take care of threats - and regularly as a punishment. the LA, as an organisation, are protecting themselves - the failed bounty hunters seemed to survive a long time, despite their clear ineptitude. sure, they chucked a bomb at the pentagon - but there's good reason for them to consider earth a threat, since we've bombed a few of their cosa shipments, and generally made a nuisance of ourselves. to me this would suggest an organisation that can be cruel, yes, but not needlessly cruel. some members have a greater tendency toward violence, but they still held back from killing for the sake of killing.



take a look at any government, army, or indeed any organisation in the world with power. there's plenty of people in them for power, to abuse any position they get - but the organisation as a whole isn't usually accused of being thugs.

hedwig
April 27th, 2011, 08:30 PM
the LA took advantage of a power vacuum, and while they obviously have a way of doing things, it's also obvious that they don't all kill just everyone. that woman who led them at first was relatively peaceful, killing only if she was given a reason to. ginn was taken to be a scientist, but being completely honest: it's probably a lot better a life than she would have had if she didn't go with the LA.

I have to completely disagree with you on the notion that Kiva was "relatively peaceful, killing only if she was given a reason". There was no reason to kill her own scientist just because he didn't know some of the answers she wanted, yet she had him killed. She cold-bloodedly shot and killed Cpl. Rivers on Destiny just because she could. She was completely willing and prepared to kill TJ (a pregnant woman) just because she could. There was nothing whatsoever peaceful about her. She would willingly have killed everyone on board Destiny just so she could get control of it. That kind of behavior doesn't seem peaceful to me.

Keeper
April 27th, 2011, 08:39 PM
I have to completely disagree with you on the notion that Kiva was "relatively peaceful, killing only if she was given a reason". There was no reason to kill her own scientist just because he didn't know some of the answers she wanted, yet she had him killed. She cold-bloodedly shot and killed Cpl. Rivers on Destiny just because she could. She was completely willing and prepared to kill TJ (a pregnant woman) just because she could. There was nothing whatsoever peaceful about her. She would willingly have killed everyone on board Destiny just so she could get control of it. That kind of behavior doesn't seem peaceful to me.

however, these are all people in the way of her goals - and who are obstructing her to some extent. even her own scientist was slowing things down and making mistakes - he was used as an example for others.

she didn't kill just for the sake of killing. peaceful may be the wrong term for her, but she certainly wasn't butchering people for no reason other than because she could. in fact iirc she offered to let the crew live if they handed over destiny without a fight.

as a soldier, she needed to get results as fast as possible - but she was prepared to talk if it was a viable option, and gave her a better chance of success. it just didn't happen as easily for her as it did for varro.

the fifth man
April 27th, 2011, 08:43 PM
Both men are ultimately pretty good guys. So personally, I have a hard time deciding which one should end up with TJ.

Egle01
April 27th, 2011, 11:41 PM
Both men are ultimately pretty good guys. So personally, I have a hard time deciding which one should end up with TJ.No, no hard time at all. Young! :D Okay, that's the little shipper in me talking. I'd imagine TJ has other things to worry about now, than which guy to pick.

hedwig
April 28th, 2011, 02:23 PM
however, these are all people in the way of her goals - and who are obstructing her to some extent. even her own scientist was slowing things down and making mistakes - he was used as an example for others.

Still not an excuse.