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ithinkitsmagic
April 25th, 2011, 06:28 PM
It seems a lot people on here really like Epilogue. Am I the only one who didn't like it? I found it sappy and played out. Take me somewhere new. I know, they took me to the edge of the universe, how new do I need? I want story lines completely foreign to the franchise. Not the same old situations with new people and context. I mean, cheese and rice, did we not see this kind of theme in SGU Time, SG1 Unending and SGA The Last Man.

Maybe it had potential, but they dik*ed around with episodes like Cloverdale and The Hunt and lost the opportunity to play it out properly.

jelgate
April 25th, 2011, 06:29 PM
It seems a lot people on here really like Epilogue. Am I the only one who didn't like it? I found it sappy and played out. Take me somewhere new. I know, they took me to the edge of the universe, how new do I need? I want story lines completely foreign to the franchise. Not the same old situations with new people and context. I mean, cheese and rice, did we not see this kind of theme in SGU Time, SG1 Unending and SGA The Last Man.
Maybe it had potential, but they dik*ed around with episodes like Cloverdale and The Hunt and lost the opportunity to play it out properly.
No we did not.

Pharaoh Atem
April 25th, 2011, 06:29 PM
i'z loved it. both parts.

s09119
April 25th, 2011, 06:34 PM
Emotion is at the core of the human experience, the very thing that science fiction aims to tap into and analyze in the context of what is yet to come.

If you're going to call it sap, I'd say these episodes succeeded brilliantly in that.

morrismike
April 25th, 2011, 06:37 PM
I hated season 1 and liked the more conventional SG1 and A (along with various ST incarnations and BE) and really enjoyed the episode. Having Wray say that proverb at the end to tie up that loose string was good tv.

The only bad part was Varro surviving a 30 foot fall onto a concrete floor. right......

s09119
April 25th, 2011, 06:40 PM
I hated season 1 and liked the more conventional SG1 and A (along with various ST incarnations and BE) and really enjoyed the episode. Having Wray say that proverb at the end to tie up that loose string was good tv.

The only bad part was Varro surviving a 30 foot fall onto a concrete floor. right......

Actually it happens more often than you'd think, and from far greater heights.

Briangate78
April 25th, 2011, 06:40 PM
It seems a lot people on here really like Epilogue. Am I the only one who didn't like it? I found it sappy and played out. Take me somewhere new. I know, they took me to the edge of the universe, how new do I need? I want story lines completely foreign to the franchise. Not the same old situations with new people and context. I mean, cheese and rice, did we not see this kind of theme in SGU Time, SG1 Unending and SGA The Last Man.



The Last Man was one of my favorite SGA eps. This episode felt like that but obviously more character driven. T.J.'s story was very similar to Keller's. Except T.J. is still going to get sick. So very powerful stuff.

I think "The Last Man" blows away "Unending" for many different reasons, this episode is right up there with "The Last Man" for me, so good job with this episode to the producers. :)

Spidey3121
April 25th, 2011, 06:40 PM
1 could survive that - i mean the law of averages might not be on your side but it's conceivable.

As for Last Man - i actually frowned upon the episode of SGA :-/ It's not too relevant here though.

I mean for as much SG-1 or Atlantis would explore the possibility of what could have been it always got washed away. Now it's true it wasn't "our" crew that traveled back in time but their alternates did and their society actually grew and flourished and has had an impact in our time line or reality or however you want to phrase it.

While it shared some similarities with previous episodes, i'd say this episode covered new ground for the franchise. And from an emotional stand point i though it was excellent.

morrismike
April 25th, 2011, 06:40 PM
Actually it happens more often than you'd think, and from far greater heights.
on concrete?

s09119
April 25th, 2011, 06:46 PM
on concrete?

People have fallen off buildings and lived before. So yes.

themeatcleaver
April 25th, 2011, 06:54 PM
People have fallen off buildings and lived before. So yes.

totally. my dad fell down an elevator shaft like 8 stories and was the only one that survived. broke damn near every bone in his body but survived!

Greenfire32
April 25th, 2011, 07:08 PM
BEST. EPISODE. EVAR!

How could you not like it? Seriously, I haven't gotten chills like this since SGA's "Before I sleep."

tinerin
April 25th, 2011, 07:18 PM
In my story the guy landed on dirt so I know it's not the same (although it was a 50ish foot fall), but when I was in college, I lived in a very old six story dormitory. Late one night, this guy (who was high on a bunch of different things at the time), was leaning on the window on the top floor when it broke and he fell out and landed flat on the ground. He hit the ground so hard that pretty much everyone who had a window facing into the courtyard heard it. He literally walked away from it (well, not literally, cuz did I mention he was super high?). No broken/fractured/dislocated bones, no concussion or any other internal injuries, he didn't even need any stitches. He was going to class the next morning and escorted out of the dorms by law enforcement that afternoon for the drugs.

Shylodog
April 25th, 2011, 07:19 PM
on concrete?

A coworker's husband was an ironworker who fell 50 feet when his harness broke while welding. He survived and, although he broke his neck, he's quite able to walk around and function fairly normally. It's definitely possible.

sholva1
April 25th, 2011, 07:46 PM
i liked it, you are alone

Cold Fuzz
April 25th, 2011, 08:19 PM
The Last Man was one of my favorite SGA eps. This episode felt like that but obviously more character driven. T.J.'s story was very similar to Keller's. Except T.J. is still going to get sick. So very powerful stuff.

I think "The Last Man" blows away "Unending" for many different reasons, this episode is right up there with "The Last Man" for me, so good job with this episode to the producers. :)

I liked "The Last Man" a lot more than "Unending" actually. As for "Epilogue" I liked it and "Common Descent" quite a bit, especially seeing how everything played out with everybody's descendants.

General Jumper One
April 25th, 2011, 08:54 PM
Am I the only one who didn't like it?

I think your are alone. I loved it!

Replicator Todd
April 25th, 2011, 09:25 PM
I liked the episode. But I don't think it is "best episode ever" material.

MattSilver 3k
April 25th, 2011, 09:40 PM
You're free to not like it, but your opinion can be heard just as much in the general episode discussion instead of opening your own thread... Ho hum.

Greenfire32
April 25th, 2011, 09:44 PM
You're free to not like it, but your opinion can be heard just as much in the general episode discussion instead of opening your own thread... Ho hum.

But please sir, I want some moar

sgc
April 25th, 2011, 09:47 PM
I hated season 1 and liked the more conventional SG1 and A (along with various ST incarnations and BE) and really enjoyed the episode. Having Wray say that proverb at the end to tie up that loose string was good tv.

The only bad part was Varro surviving a 30 foot fall onto a concrete floor. right......

My girlfriend fell out of a fifty-foot tree and is perfectly fine.

MattSilver 3k
April 25th, 2011, 09:55 PM
But please sir, I want some moar

More? MOOOORRREEEEE?

Well you can't have it.

tehMorag
April 26th, 2011, 01:13 AM
This whole story arc dealing with the dialing earth via the sun has been amazing~
The past 2 eps have been some of the best story in startgate and could see some sort of mini series spinoff from it (if it could ever happen)

It is sad to see it come to an end soon :(

also to the writers...
Season 2 (and end of season 1) has been amazing - It is feel way more stargate-ish :D
Also sad to see it end soon :(

The show keeps getting better and better!
The last ep will be hard to watch

icsteffi
April 26th, 2011, 03:14 AM
I liked it. But felt a little manipulated. The writers twisted my heart! I guess thats their job though :)

Shai Hulud
April 26th, 2011, 03:29 AM
It seems a lot people on here really like Epilogue. Am I the only one who didn't like it? I found it sappy and played out. Take me somewhere new. I know, they took me to the edge of the universe, how new do I need? I want story lines completely foreign to the franchise. Not the same old situations with new people and context. I mean, cheese and rice, did we not see this kind of theme in SGU Time, SG1 Unending and SGA The Last Man.

Maybe it had potential, but they dik*ed around with episodes like Cloverdale and The Hunt and lost the opportunity to play it out properly.

Nope I didnt like Epilogue either.

dahok
April 26th, 2011, 05:17 AM
I didn't like it either. Maybe because it focuses way too much on boring couples like Young/TJ and Scott/Chloe.
Everything in this episode felt like it was done before, where a team finds a planet which so happens to be facing imminent destruction the moment they land (walk through the gate, etc).

I was curious who Eli ended up with, and I may have cracked a smile with "Get off my lawn" Brody.

LtColCarter
April 26th, 2011, 05:23 AM
It seems a lot people on here really like Epilogue. Am I the only one who didn't like it? I found it sappy and played out. Take me somewhere new. I know, they took me to the edge of the universe, how new do I need? I want story lines completely foreign to the franchise. Not the same old situations with new people and context. I mean, cheese and rice, did we not see this kind of theme in SGU Time, SG1 Unending and SGA The Last Man.

Maybe it had potential, but they dik*ed around with episodes like Cloverdale and The Hunt and lost the opportunity to play it out properly.

Alas my friend, I think you are alone!

knowles2
April 26th, 2011, 05:34 AM
on concrete?
Yes, someone at Coventry university jump of Priory Hall building, about 15+ stories high, and he survive, broken legs, crushed lung, multiple other broke bones, in a coma for several weeks I but he survive, so I fine it perfectly reasonable that Varro survive such a fall.

An to the thread creator, yes I think you are the only one who do not like it.

mizzoueng
April 26th, 2011, 05:35 AM
I thought it was okay. The only person that was actually logical throughout the episode IMO was Rush, which annoyed me to every extent. Eli and the others were too busy seeing the historical documents, which if compressed immediately would have been transferred before the loss of power, instead of finding SUPPLIES TO SURVIVE.

Rush actually found a viable "carbon filter" and brought on board as much as he could stuff into the elevator. Viable air for the next 50 years (assuming each container in that elevator had at least 1 of those filters in it).

I thought it was hokey that Young came down to the planet to come to TJ's side. Seriously, it was a recording, that showed that she would not even start to see symptoms for another 5 years and wouldn't die until "a few years later". For a intensive purposes she was fine, but putting more people at the bottom of that pit on top of a fault line filled with magma was a better idea, yeah, thats smart.

And about the data on the ships, they know when they left, they know the top speed of the ships, and they knew the course, Eli "mathboy" CAN figure out where they are plus minus half a lightyear. Sensors can take over after that. Just saying "welp, we didn't get the data, you're boned" is stupid. Showing the math and science to work out problems is what I like to see, its ingenious solutions and "real world" applications of the math you learn in school saving the day.

Nth Chevron
April 26th, 2011, 08:09 AM
When i was 14 years old, i fell out of a monster of a tree, around 60 odd foot.


Hi, how are you?

Awesome episode though, just awesome, if you dont like it, then i think youve gone the dark side of Stargate.

But seriously, at least they survived the initial rumblings, built their own Ark's and flew off into the unknown, in a way, emulating their Ancestors :)

Gotta love Poetic Justice :)

N.C

LtColCarter
April 26th, 2011, 08:15 AM
When i was 14 years old, i fell out of a monster of a tree, around 60 odd foot.


Hi, how are you?

Awesome episode though, just awesome, if you dont like it, then i think youve gone the dark side of Stargate.

But seriously, at least they survived the initial rumblings, built their own Ark's and flew off into the unknown, in a way, emulating their Ancestors :)

Gotta love Poetic Justice :)

N.C

Never realized that until now...

Duneknight
April 26th, 2011, 08:18 AM
not the best episode mainly because i dont care about a bunch of dead people from an alternate reality. maybe i wouldve cared had the show not been canceled. the visuals were great and lots of funny stuff. the best thing about this story arc is that i have no idea how it will end or what to expect.

LtColCarter
April 26th, 2011, 08:23 AM
not the best episode mainly because i dont care about a bunch of dead people from an alternate reality. maybe i wouldve cared had the show not been canceled. the visuals were great and lots of funny stuff. the best thing about this story arc is that i have no idea how it will end or what to expect.

Already been established...there is no alternate reality...

Duneknight
April 26th, 2011, 08:40 AM
Already been established...there is no alternate reality...

but they are from an alternate reality.

Greenfire32
April 26th, 2011, 08:49 AM
Already been established...there is no alternate reality...

An alternate time-line is an alternate reality you know...

Just because the "real" Destiny crew has never been to "Alt Destiny's" time-line, doesn't mean it's non existent. The fact that we are routinely showed the lives of Alt Destiny would seem to indicate that there is an alternate time-line, and by extension, an alternate reality worth showing.

Kaiphantom
April 26th, 2011, 08:57 AM
You're free to not like it, but your opinion can be heard just as much in the general episode discussion instead of opening your own thread... Ho hum.

This reeks of the "If you don't like it, go somewhere else!" mentality. I found the episode decent, but I find nothing wrong with people starting a thread to find out purely if people liked it or not. Try not to be quite so defensive when someone doesn't like something you do.

The Destiny
April 26th, 2011, 09:15 AM
Mhmm.. I don't know.. I liked it. I liked certain parts a lot ( elevator music ftw ) although there is something about it that I liked a bit less.. I just can't figure it out.

I think it might simply be the knowledge that they filmed it at some colonial outdoors museam thing, which tampered it's feeling of realism that I've had so far ( with stuff like planets, which feel completely alien ).. the flashbacks where their buildings weren't so neat and sofisticated yet ( like the huts of treeleaves ) felt more real.

What put a bit of a damper on my enthousiasm was the very last shot of the advanced city. If it had looked like the shots of the city at the end of 'common descent' it would have been awesome. However the modellers chose to put those little patches of grass between the buildings that made the city look like little boxes instead of real.


I dunno.. some minor nitpicking I guess. I really did like epilogue, but I liked common descent more. The flashbacks were handeled a bit better there, a bit cooler and more authentic. I liked epilogue though, no regret watching.

Naonak
April 26th, 2011, 09:44 AM
I thought it was okay. The only person that was actually logical throughout the episode IMO was Rush, which annoyed me to every extent. Eli and the others were too busy seeing the historical documents, which if compressed immediately would have been transferred before the loss of power, instead of finding SUPPLIES TO SURVIVE.
They had teams doing that.

Lahela
April 26th, 2011, 09:50 AM
They had teams doing that.

:indeed:

While Rush's pragmatism was typical of him (and I commend him for it), all of them have their own interests and desires for knowledge and understanding so it's not so far fetched that some of them would place more importance in learning what happened yesterday than fretting about tomorrow. It's just human nature.

Galileo_Galilee
April 26th, 2011, 04:17 PM
I didn't hate it, nor did I love it. I did enjoy the episode and felt it was one that was an improvement in the writing.

It's funny how the writing seems to improve when there's a cancellation.

Nth Chevron
April 26th, 2011, 04:25 PM
It might be a case of "trying too hard," remember this show was getting bashed left right and centre before the pilot had even aired.

They should have just ignored them from the start and tell the story, THEIR story, the way they wanted to.

N.C

garhkal
April 26th, 2011, 05:13 PM
A coworker's husband was an ironworker who fell 50 feet when his harness broke while welding. He survived and, although he broke his neck, he's quite able to walk around and function fairly normally. It's definitely possible.

We had a guy break both his collar bone and shoulder blade from falling from his 2nd story window in the barracks INTO dirt. So i don't think that is much relevance.


I didn't like it either. Maybe because it focuses way too much on boring couples like Young/TJ and Scott/Chloe.

While i too felt it dawdled a little too much on the kino footage of the decendants first few decades. IT was interesting seeing how they progressed.


which if compressed immediately would have been transferred before the loss of power, instead of finding SUPPLIES TO SURVIVE.

Eli had already compressed them.


And about the data on the ships, they know when they left, they know the top speed of the ships, and they knew the course, Eli "mathboy" CAN figure out where they are plus minus half a lightyear. Sensors can take over after that. Just saying "welp, we didn't get the data, you're boned" is stupid. Showing the math and science to work out problems is what I like to see, its ingenious solutions and "real world" applications of the math you learn in school saving the day.

That is true, they could try and track down where those ships are at.


While Rush's pragmatism was typical of him (and I commend him for it), all of them have their own interests and desires for knowledge and understanding so it's not so far fetched that some of them would place more importance in learning what happened yesterday than fretting about tomorrow. It's just human nature.

True. There was imo a lot of important things they could have learned, but without clean air to breath for the foreseable future, how would they have survived 10 more days, let alone longer to make use of it??

Ser Scot A Ellison
April 26th, 2011, 05:16 PM
ithinkitsmagic,


It seems a lot people on here really like Epilogue. Am I the only one who didn't like it? I found it sappy and played out. Take me somewhere new. I know, they took me to the edge of the universe, how new do I need? I want story lines completely foreign to the franchise. Not the same old situations with new people and context. I mean, cheese and rice, did we not see this kind of theme in SGU Time, SG1 Unending and SGA The Last Man.

Maybe it had potential, but they dik*ed around with episodes like Cloverdale and The Hunt and lost the opportunity to play it out properly.

Yes, you are the only one. I really enjoyed this episode.

Gollumpus
April 26th, 2011, 05:19 PM
It was schmaltz, but it was good schmaltz.

regards,
G.