Destinys true mission

[electronlove]

Methinks that the real mission is to travel to to the center of the universe where a giant blackhole will destroy everything in its path. Some of the scientists want to enter the blackhole to study what lay at the other end. It's a suicide mission, even for the robots on Destiny (that is, if Disney buys MGM).

[kellx]

i agree, i think that Destiny's mission is to find the center of the Universe, to study where and how the universe began. either that or something to do with accession

[Lionheart325]

My take:

It's either a mission to find the meaning of life (so yes could be tied into finding the centre of the universe).

Or it's something more in depth. What I mean is I think that the ship has the ability to manipulate time lines and to effect everything in ways we cannot imagine and in essence make destinys for everyone and everything.

I'd prefer my first idea to be closer to it tho. Would be awsome to think the ancients wanted to find out the meaning of life and all.

[doysh121]

there is no centre to the universe no one point could ever be found as the place were the big bang took place the centre is everywere.

i prefere to think destiny is trying to find the edge to see what the universe is expanding into altho no one knows how fast its expanding maybe its faster than destiny can travel tho i dont think the ancents would have built it if they wernt sure it could travel fast enough

[Smooth]

To boldly go where no man has gone before....

[LordHart]

It's heading to that planet where V'ger went.

[garhkal]

Then we have the borg come back through and assimilate everything!

[BadOnion]

To prevent O'Neil and Carter's kids from joining Biff in that robery.

[Wayston]

there is no centre to the universe no one point could ever be found as the place were the big bang took place the centre is everywere.

i prefere to think destiny is trying to find the edge to see what the universe is expanding into altho no one knows how fast its expanding maybe its faster than destiny can travel tho i dont think the ancents would have built it if they wernt sure it could travel fast enough

exactly right on the big bang, interesting theory on breaking through the big bang frontier... (although if it's expanding into nothing which is quite possible then they wouldn't have much luck)

it would be somewhat interesting if the ancients calculated the big bang is in fact not entirely as stable and self sustaining as it's thought to be, that there needs to be some sort of sentient intervention through a little nudge at the right time and place to keep it from collapsing in the most spectacular manner. However I don't think that would work as a SG series "destiny".

[wolverine_nl]

The edge of the universe, the edge of the big bang wall of creation. Breaching this wall, going further than the big bang is, means finding out what is outside of the "blackness"....man, that is deep (if this is the mission ofcourse)

[garhkal]

Hows about going inside woman's thoughts to truly understand them... NOW That is a mission!

[wolverine_nl]

Hows about going inside woman's thoughts to truly understand them... NOW That is a mission!

That was soo not funny and that is comin from a man :S

Destiny's true mission will be revealed and it will be something we cant think of, cause i havent seen any reasonable theory yet.

[garhkal]

Hey... It happened before, "What a woman wants" with mel gibson!

[Abiron]

Whatever the specifics of the mission, I would not be surprised if we find that Destiny was never meant to be boarded by the Ancients, but by their successors, i.e., us.

We are unsure of the exact timeline of the Ancients, or exactly where Destiny fits into it, but it's possible that Destiny was launched before the plague. And instead of the plague being one of the reasons that they never came aboard, what if that was the plan all along? What if the Destiny, along with the gates and the repositories, was what they chose to leave behind, knowing that one day in the unbelievably distant future, their descendants - literally or figuratively - would be able to use those things to do something that the plague prevented them from doing themselves? Such as solving some huge mystery or completing some incredibly long-term project well outside of their home galactic group?

If Destiny's mission is still ahead of it, which it must be, then the plans for that mission must have included the million or so years between her launch and her goal. I for one don't think that the Ancients actually believed that they would still be around when the time came for the Destiny's mission to bear fruit, if they knew that she would be enroute for such a vast length of time. I think she was named Destiny because the Ancients knew that their descendants were destined to find the ship and finish whatever it was that they had started.

As to what that mission actually is...it would have to be someting quite epic, if they knew to begin it that long ago. Something that made them decide to seed thousands of habitable worlds with gates along a predetermined course that has taken a monstrously long time to travel.

When we first learned about Destiny and the seeders, it was easy to believe that the entire project was just the Ancients looking to expand their knowledge and possibly their influence. But the teaser trailer and the tagline for this season tell a different tale: Destiny always had a vital mission, and apparently it's still relevant today, and vital to us...as opposed to some forgotten and abandoned Ancient project from the distant past.

So...what might have been so important that the Ancients put this massively ambitious mission in motion knowing that they themselves would probably not be the ones to complete it? Saving the universe? Meeting "the creator?" Gaining some new level of existence beyond ascension? Finding out that the universe somehow wraps around itself and you'll eventually end up back where you started? Finding some other offshoot of their original race that set off in a completely different direction when the Ancients set off for the Milky Way?

I have no idea...but I think we'll find out soon.

[timebandit]

Whats that episode, anyone know - when Rush says 'that ... is... the mission...' wonder if its the same one when he
reveals the bridge [wonder when that happens too].

Maybe destiny's mission has to do w/gating all round the universe w/ease to gather information more conveniently. Or gating to other universes or something crazy like that.

im not sure i understand the time travel aspect as mentioned before.

[SBN]

The edge of the universe, the edge of the big bang wall of creation. Breaching this wall, going further than the big bang is, means finding out what is outside of the "blackness"....man, that is deep (if this is the mission ofcourse)

I have somewhat speculated that this will be the ultimate mission, I just do not see how they could not do anything less considering the build up. Especially just concerning Rush alone, what else could be so significant as to really interest him? Does anyone think if it was something as mundane as a lost colony of Ancients that Rush would be interested?

I honestly think that if they could somehow just manage one more season, and get that last season to focus more on the mission they could really end the show with a movie a la the other series with one spectacularly impressive ending, both visually and intellectually. From what I know of this season, doing a movie to "conclude" the series will be nothing short of a hack job which would be sad. On the other hand I think 3 seasons + finale movie would be more than sufficient to conclude the story.

[garhkal]

I say 4 not 3.

[vjlax18]

I've said it before and I guess I'll have to say it again...

The true mission is to go to Cybertron and find the AllSpark. At that point Destiny will transform into a giant maid and suck all of the air out of the all of planets it has visited and then refill Earth's air supply.

[The Swarm]

Its real mission is to transcend space and time and reach Oma's diner. Those waffles are legendary amongst all the races of the universe.

Thats why the smurf aliens wanted the ship so bad!

[icedearth]

my feeling towards destiny's true mission is make the ultimate alliance of all races. ?? any thoughts ???

[wolverine_nl]

my feeling towards destiny's true mission is make the ultimate alliance of all races. ?? any thoughts ???

I think that is far from what its gonna be, a few great races already are gone (Asgard, Tolan etc)

[Nindif]

To add to the discussion:

I think the purpose of the Destiny will have some sort of theological/ religious connotations associated with it. (Hinted at through episodes Faith and Intervention)


Originally posted by wolverine_nl
The edge of the universe, the edge of the big bang wall of creation. Breaching this wall, going further than the big bang is, means finding out what is outside of the "blackness"....man, that is deep (if this is the mission of course)

I think this will somehow be related to the Destiny's mission. Consider the ancients have found a way to ascend physical form and exist as energy for eternity, what is next? What could the next level of existence be?

Destiny and the seed ships are obviously documenting and exploring the unexplored universe for research purposes (If your sending a ship on a million+ year journey why not?), however, i predict this is simply a convenience rather than a goal of the mission. The planets and research are assisting the 'crew' survive and manage the issues on-board the ship, but really serve no other purpose than additional data for the ancient database.


Originally posted by Abiron
Whatever the specifics of the mission, I would not be surprised if we find that Destiny was never meant to be boarded by the Ancients, but by their successors, i.e., us.

Consider than name 'Destiny'. I agree with Abiron the name implies we (humans from earth) are/were destined to succeed the humanform ancients and continue their mission. In this way, the literal meaning behind the 'Destiny is associated with Earths destiny to continue the work of the ancients when ready (discovering and unlocking the 9th Chevron).

On a second, more philosophical level however, i believe the name 'Destiny' denotes the 'destiny' of life. From this, i believe the ancients intended to send a ship to the limits of space and time to challenge their conceptions of what is the purpose of life. What is the meaning of life? and what is the Destiny of life?

So returning to my original contention, consider: The ancients have found a way to ascend physical form and exist as energy for eternity, what is next? What could the next level of existence be? The ancients sent Destiny in search of the true Gods, creator/s of the universe to discover how to reach the next level of existence, and we (earth) were always intended to be the ones to discover this.

Personally i think this would be a sweet story element not only for SGU, but the SG mythology as a whole. However, of course i could be completely and utterly wrong, it is all just my wishful speculation :)


*Side-note for other Discussion Topic: I would be totally satisfied with a 3 season run for SGU provided the story is concluded. If it ends unresolved, this would be very annoying. Considering SGU may be the final iteration of Stargate as we know it for quite some time, i at least want it to go out with dignity in storytelling and respect to its dedicated 'core' audience by resolving the storyline. If this is 3 complete seasons that is fine, 4 is wonderful and 5 is glorious . But lets just hope for a 3rd, even if S2 so far has not delivered in your opinion, still hope for a 3rd to bring it to a respectful conclusion.

[blade7gr]

destiny was launched from earth that means that atlantis was there.........(or else atlantis plot is a cut off version of the story)
so by that time they had pretty powerfull hyperspace engine and they deside to install ftl in destiny so that the ship get a relativity effect travelling faster or close to the speed of light(assuming that destiny has a zpm feature on it and they didnt find out yet )

[wolverine_nl]

destiny was launched from earth that means that atlantis was there.........(or else atlantis plot is a cut off version of the story)
so by that time they had pretty powerfull hyperspace engine and they deside to install ftl in destiny so that the ship get a relativity effect travelling faster or close to the speed of light(assuming that destiny has a zpm feature on it and they didnt find out yet )
Depends, if Atlantis was that old...cause the tech from Destiny predates that of Atlantis, The seeders that are ahead of Destiny plant old style gates, so it could be Atlantis was build after Destiny was sent off into the universe.

To be honoust i think they made Destiny style ships after inventing the stargates when the Alterans just arrived in the MW and lived on Earth. So that is a total other kinda Ancients than the ones that build and ruled in Atlantis and other cityships, there could be several million years between these generations. This can also be a reason that the mission of Destiny got lost in the Ancient archives or some1 deleted this entry on purpose and this story will be revealed lateron in SGU somewhere.

[blade7gr]

Depends, if Atlantis was that old...cause the tech from Destiny predates that of Atlantis, The seeders that are ahead of Destiny plant old style gates, so it could be Atlantis was build after Destiny was sent off into the universe.

To be honoust i think they made Destiny style ships after inventing the stargates when the Alterans just arrived in the MW and lived on Earth. So that is a total other kinda Ancients than the ones that build and ruled in Atlantis and other cityships, there could be several million years between these generations. This can also be a reason that the mission of Destiny got lost in the Ancient archives or some1 deleted this entry on purpose and this story will be revealed lateron in SGU somewhere.
yes but in the first ep rush said that destiny was launched from earth
(and the ancients was on earth with atlantis)
(but i think that the old style stargates was build in that ship only because they didnt want to put puddle jumpers on it)
i think that destiny has something to do with ascension and better understanding of universe
or it was a grand scale design to seed the universe and plant ancient idiots everywhere :D

[wolverine_nl]

yes but in the first ep rush said that destiny was launched from earth
(and the ancients was on earth with atlantis)
(but i think that the old style stargates was build in that ship only because they didnt want to put puddle jumpers on it)
i think that destiny has something to do with ascension and better understanding of universe
or it was a grand scale design to seed the universe and plant ancient idiots everywhere :D

:S
I am confused about your post....yes Destiny was launched from Earth, but Atlantis was build to go to Pegasus and this could be several million years later than that Destiny left Earth.
Plus the shuttles on Destiny where the old version of puddle jumpers, only those shuttles don't fit through a gate.
I think you are wayyyy of in your timeline.
The ancients that build Destiny aren't the same ones as those that build Atlantis. that I am 100% sure.

[blade7gr]

as far as i know about the timeline of the ancients
they built atlantis in the plant that sg1 found jackson after his failure ascention :p
and atlantis left from there and landed on earth(if merlin timeline is correct btw the first ancients was on earth in atlantis)

so i think that either destiny was indeed built in earth when atlantis was there
or it was built in another planet travelled to earth and then launched from there (this could be more realistic)

but still we are talking about the ancients they did a lot of crazy things
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but if the mission is so important for them that they will just give up trying to get home i think that this mission isnt about the ship or has anything to do with the seed ships..

[Dii-Reno]

It could have just been a backup plan for the Ancients. What better name then the destiny for an evacuation ship. Send a ship out in one direction behind seeder ships. If the Ancients in the Milkyway ever found themselves under attack by a superior force like they were with the Wraith and the Ori they could dial up the Destiny, and evacuate to a galaxy far far beyond the reach of any possible threat. The seeder ships provide instant intelligence on the geography, any hostiles, and territory for colonization.

The reason it was probably never used was because the Ancients eventually died of a plague.

[Utitan]

It's hard to speculate about the intent of the ancients, but I think you have to look at the capabilities of the ship, and why you might need to use them. We can say it's pretty much been revealed that Destiny can leap frog through space and travel through time. IMHO getting to the edge of the universe would be pointless, all you would do is fly past where light has expanded and there would be nothing. Flying into a black hole in the center of the universe would be the same as flying through a black hole in the center of any random galaxy they come across. Seems it would be counter productive... If Destiny CAN travel through time as it has been suggested several times then it already has the power to create a singularity on it's own. Now lets say destiny has somewhere to be, a certain position in space and that position is where it is headed to. Once it arrives perhaps it then travels back in time to complete whatever mission it is needed for in that certain place, at that certain time. altering the a course of events that evidently had major consequences. Just my thoughts.

[morbosfist]

It's headed for the Restaurant at the End of the Universe. They make a great meat sauce marinara.

[wolverine_nl]

as far as i know about the timeline of the ancients
they built atlantis in the plant that sg1 found jackson after his failure ascention :p
and atlantis left from there and landed on earth(if merlin timeline is correct btw the first ancients was on earth in atlantis)

Where is this fact??? It is never stated, the ancients left their homegalaxy in a more primitive ship, they 'presumably' landed on Earth and from there on seeded our Milky Way with stargates, around this time we have no facts at all and it is a wild guess. But from what we know, they made Destiny at some point, the technology is old, wayyyy older than atlantis. The Destiny and the Seederships are out there for probably several reasons (planting gates and gathering data and the secret mission for the ones on Destiny).
Atlantis was build together with at least 1 other cityship (the Tower) for the reason to massively leave the Milky Way and head for other Galaxies (who is to say they aren't in another galaxy) Because they suffered from the plaque (and those ancients that had this plaque were left behind here on Earth, like Ayanna)

Just to clearify it up for u ;)

[garhkal]

yes but in the first ep rush said that destiny was launched from earth
(and the ancients was on earth with atlantis)
(but i think that the old style stargates was build in that ship only because they didnt want to put puddle jumpers on it)
i think that destiny has something to do with ascension and better understanding of universe
or it was a grand scale design to seed the universe and plant ancient idiots everywhere :D

BUT we don't know when they made atlantis in relation to the Destiny. We do know the lanteans did NOT come here on atlantis (as shown by the clip in the beginning of Ark of truth).

[Nindif]

It's hard to speculate about the intent of the ancients, but I think you have to look at the capabilities of the ship, and why you might need to use them. We can say it's pretty much been revealed that Destiny can leap frog through space and travel through time. IMHO getting to the edge of the universe would be pointless, all you would do is fly past where light has expanded and there would be nothing. Flying into a black hole in the center of the universe would be the same as flying through a black hole in the center of any random galaxy they come across. Seems it would be counter productive... If Destiny CAN travel through time as it has been suggested several times then it already has the power to create a singularity on it's own. Now lets say destiny has somewhere to be, a certain position in space and that position is where it is headed to. Once it arrives perhaps it then travels back in time to complete whatever mission it is needed for in that certain place, at that certain time. altering the a course of events that evidently had major consequences. Just my thoughts.

whilst i think this is a good idea, it actually goes against a lot of the recurring moral values set up in the shows mythology.
1: the ancient don't want to interfere (traveling back in time to make a change is a MAJOR interference)
2: in all time travel eps, changing the past has been VERY controversial and the characters exceptionally careful not to interfere in a grandfather paradox type situation.

[blade7gr]

Where is this fact??? It is never stated, the ancients left their homegalaxy in a more primitive ship, they 'presumably' landed on Earth and from there on seeded our Milky Way with stargates, around this time we have no facts at all and it is a wild guess. But from what we know, they made Destiny at some point, the technology is old, wayyyy older than atlantis. The Destiny and the Seederships are out there for probably several reasons (planting gates and gathering data and the secret mission for the ones on Destiny).
Atlantis was build together with at least 1 other cityship (the Tower) for the reason to massively leave the Milky Way and head for other Galaxies (who is to say they aren't in another galaxy) Because they suffered from the plaque (and those ancients that had this plaque were left behind here on Earth, like Ayanna)

Just to clearify it up for u ;)
jonas said the the stargates that oneil put in the destination map was in order first to last
earth was last and they found out that atlantis was in desuban before the ship left land to dakara and then at earth
BUT the first time the ancient landed on earth was with atlantisor else sg1 timeline is wrong
anyway i think that destiny was in another planets before start that journey
i dont know when exactly ancients mastered travels in time but i think it was wayyyyy after destiny..

[Homer 120]

All will be reveled in next weeks episode ''The Greater Good'' if Binder came up with something beyond awsome of as ''Mind boggiling'' as Carllyle put it, then Binder's past mistakes with SGU (Life and Pathogen) will be forgotten! :P

I just hope SyFy doesn't frakk up the promo like they did with SGA's ''The Kindred, Part 1''

[wolverine_nl]

All will be reveled in next weeks episode ''The Greater Good'' if Binder came up with something beyond awsome of as ''Mind boggiling'' as Carllyle put it, then Binder's past mistakes with SGU (Life and Pathogen) will be forgotten! :P

I just hope SyFy doesn't frakk up the promo like they did with SGA's ''The Kindred, Part 1''

I cant wait for the episode :D

[Nth Chevron]

I wonder, as has been mentioned before somewhere on GW, if the Destiny is living some self-fulfilling prophecy? For instance, we know the Ancients had time travel tech, we only saw it ala Janus era on Atlantis in Pegasus, we also know that some Ancients and non-Ancients can gain the power of future sight, if through either way the Ancients saw either an imbalance in the big bang, that needed assistance to stop it becoming the big crunch, then the Seeder ships were sent out to ensure a supply line was in place before the expedition went, OR, what if the further out into the universe you go, the slower time progresses? thinking of the universe as a massive ecreation disc of a black hole, the further outside you are looking in toward something stuck in the gravity well, the slower time is for them vs you at the normal rate.

What if Destiny intends to travel outside the known universe to look in-wards, and maybe see, everything? select things, or time itself laid open as a storyboard able to manipulate events at will, like the 'Faith' aliens, maybe they did it first?

[/rambling]

N.C

[wolverine_nl]

What if Destiny intends to travel outside the known universe to look in-wards, and maybe see, everything? select things, or time itself laid open as a storyboard able to manipulate events at will, like the 'Faith' aliens, maybe they did it first?

[/rambling]

N.C

I am getting your ideas, but I don't think it is that simple. I cannot imagine a hud screen with a keyboard outside the universe lol

[Shpinxinator]

It's hard to speculate about the intent of the ancients, but I think you have to look at the capabilities of the ship, and why you might need to use them. We can say it's pretty much been revealed that Destiny can leap frog through space and travel through time. IMHO getting to the edge of the universe would be pointless, all you would do is fly past where light has expanded and there would be nothing. Flying into a black hole in the center of the universe would be the same as flying through a black hole in the center of any random galaxy they come across. Seems it would be counter productive... If Destiny CAN travel through time as it has been suggested several times then it already has the power to create a singularity on it's own. Now lets say destiny has somewhere to be, a certain position in space and that position is where it is headed to. Once it arrives perhaps it then travels back in time to complete whatever mission it is needed for in that certain place, at that certain time. altering the a course of events that evidently had major consequences. Just my thoughts.


This got me thinking...and this is as wild a theory is any but....the mission is to travel back to the formation of the universe and trigger the big bang?...maybe?

[Utitan]

whilst i think this is a good idea, it actually goes against a lot of the recurring moral values set up in the shows mythology.
1: the ancient don't want to interfere (traveling back in time to make a change is a MAJOR interference)
2: in all time travel eps, changing the past has been VERY controversial and the characters exceptionally careful not to interfere in a grandfather paradox type situation.


That's where I can't really speculate on the ancients. I frankly don't know enough about them, I rest assured they know something, or knew something in their future posed a great danger.. The two likely candidates would be A: Earth or B: the Universe it's self, being destroyed in a manner that they maybe can't stop. With the tech available at hand, past and present, Earth seems less likely or small potatoes. Makes me think this is Universal. Hmmm leads me to..


This got me thinking...and this is as wild a theory is any but....the mission is to travel back to the formation of the universe and trigger the big bang?...maybe?

Gonna sound crazy but with a nod to the name of the show and the overall theme of survival, It has me thinking Destiny was made and given the ability to create it's own Universe. Maybe not set right the Original Big Bang but move through a BH and create a new one.. Since time is relative, especially around a BH, the new Universe would be established by the time you move through it. Perhaps you can seed it with whatever you want it to create.. a new Earth? I say that because Ive been getting the subtle and sneaky idea that the Alien planet in Faith was mere practice. Yeah all this is crazy but wouldn't surprise me, and SGU is full of surprises, I can't wait till next week when we'll know!

[Nth Chevron]

Or maybe its an Ancient self fulfilling prophecy, we know the Ancients travelled from their home galaxy to ours, and that the journey took thousands of years, possibly under sublight speeds, what if the Ori developed FTL first and caught them up, tried to annihilate them, but then this ship called Destiny appears, saves them, tells them what they must do in regards to Destiny then returns to our present time to drop the crew off and repeats it all over again.

We know the Ancients build robust and numerous redundancy systems into each of their major creations, what if Destiny is the back-up to the entire Alteran race?

Admittedly it doesnt explain why they didnt fix the plague that nearly wiped them out this way, or the Wraith thing. But it does lend a small amount of credence to the Dakara monument and its use.

N.C

[garhkal]

Doubt that since it is travelling away FROM earth.

[talyn2k1]

I don't think that the mission will something relating to Ascension or mere discovery or collection of knowledge. I think in order for the mission to work as the main objective of the season and to divert the characters' attentions from getting back to Earth to completing this mission, it will have to be something extremely vital and time-sensitive, I don't think it would really pay off otherwise.
I'm liking the earlier suggestion of the Ancients realising that something cataclysmic was going to happen and they needed to take action millions of years ago in order to be in the right place at the right time to stop it. Now, I don't know what that thing could be. If I did, i'd probably be a writer!
I also like the idea of a self-fulfilling prophecy but I'm not sure how suitable such a major time-travel theme would work in a series that is supposed to be more accessible to the sort of people who would not necessarily watch sci-fi normally.

Either way, I just don't think a journey of discovery would be enough given how much build up has preceded the reveal of Destiny's mission. It needs to big, dangerous, and crucial imho and I cannot wait until next week to find out what it is. Whatever it is, given how SGU has worked up until now, I don't think it will be something that any of us have predicted.

I'm glad SGU seems to finally be taking off this season, I just hope it has an effect on the ratings as I feel this show really deserves a third season.

[*Crash*]

It would be interesting if the Destiny itself actually in the past (millions of years ago)and that the Stargate Command and Lucian Alliance have actually been sent to the past. (Perhaps by the Ancients who Ascended sent them) - but can use the communication stones to communicate to the present - which would not make any difference as it is still their unknown future. (Once again ancients did it/or the stargate has connected to a solar flare/time travel device). Hence anyone gateing in would be automatically sent to the past - which is timed with normal flow its just millions of years earlier.

It therfore may have never needed a crew because the anicents knew it would be manned by the stargate universe team - it could be a "gift" for getting rid of the Ori/Wraith/Replicators/Asurans. (And all their other "problemetic" known mistakes that they caused).

Or like the above posted said; it could be that something happens and The Destiny has been sent to stop it from happening or solve it.

[SoulReaver]

to keep the show going

[caribsci]

hi all.as you can see i'm still a probie.I think Destiny is travelling through alternate universes each time it jumps to ftl.The ancients were sseding gates through different realities and Destiny's mission is to bridge them.Just my first post so go easy on me.

[rview]

It's hard to say. I'm hoping it's not some religious based thing, that would ruin the show for me, and I've liked most of it so far. No doubt they detected or found something, they are basically going away from the Milky Way in a line. If it were simply exploration, it would make more sense to explore all the closer galaxies first, unless of course they sent out several Destinys in several directions. Theory one, center of the universe. Perhaps they detected a signal of some sort. Theory two, the outside edge of the universe (away from the center). The ancients may have evolved from somewhere else, like the humans evolving, they may have found "home", out somewhere that is older/formed first. Theory three. They are going where the Furlings went. I kind of suspect the "perfect planet" as being Furling designed. TJs baby dream showed the people left behind living simply in cabins, no tech, and weren't the Furlings the ones responsible for the ruins/key that transported and stranded SG1s Jack and Maybourne (?) to that moon where there was no tech? So if that's the case, the Furlings have been this way. Unless the whole TJ baby dream thing was Destiny messing with her head, but I'd still suspect the Furlings for making that planet. As to Destiny itself. Possibly a ship where people go to die.... The ancients were working on ascension, and who knows what else. Prior to that, they probably figured out how to store their consciousnesses in data banks (like the Asgard, and the race of people that built the crashed ship where Daniel Jackson had all those minds in his head). Knowing how long the mission would take, it would allow them to "live on", to see where they are going, interact with their descendants, explore the universe . So sit in the chair, get uploaded, and body disposed of. Just random thoughts I guess.

[morbosfist]

Carlyle gives us a bit hint as to the purpose.

http://stargate.mgm.com/view/episode/2880/index.html

Scroll through until you reach the video labeled "Background Radiation" (click right five times, it's the third from the left). I tried to get a direct link, but the video wouldn't cooperate.

[wolverine_nl]

You cant gate in normally to alternate universes or do time travel. Cause they did not use anything to gate into the ship considering that. And use of the comm stones that can see time difference is farfetched, it is already compensating in a way no1 understands.
Let's wait it out untill the ep airs :P

[garhkal]

Too true. all we know of the stones so far indicates real time compatibility, nothing close to being able to shunt consciousnesses in time.

As to the 'spoiler...

WOW.
a message from the beginning of time.. Wonders what it says

[DBoycee]

a message from the beginning of time sweet

[kirmit]

Big wow on the spoiler but makes me wonder why the ancients would abandon the destiny mission knowing there's something this epic at its destination.

[SGFerrit]

The Ancients could very well know what is out there now, having ascended. Saves them the hassle of actually having to go to Destiny to get there. But we don't have that luxury.

[kirmit]

The Ancients could very well know what is out there now, having ascended. Saves them the hassle of actually having to go to Destiny to get there. But we don't have that luxury.

I got the impression they gave up on destiny long before their ascension, given how old destiny is supposed to be and when they ascended, there was a lot of time there to visit it, which they never did.

[g.o.d]

very interesting spoiler...I liket that idea

[g.o.d]

Big wow on the spoiler but makes me wonder why the ancients would abandon the destiny mission knowing there's something this epic at its destination.

I guess it's because they discovered the ascension and maybe it's easier to learn things or two while ascended then spend years on the Destiny

[SGFerrit]

I got the impression they gave up on destiny long before their ascension, given how old destiny is supposed to be and when they ascended, there was a lot of time there to visit it, which they never did.

But the ship isn't there yet, so it wouldn't have done them that much good. It was always supposed to be a very long-term mission, I guess their race's lifespan just wasn't long enough.


On another note, I think it was Joe who recently said this isn't just important to SGU but it will connect to the whole franchise. I found that comment interesting.

[morbosfist]

Well, those rumors of god-like power may not be too far off.
If this message is leading people to the source of creation itself, that'd be one hell of a power to hold. It would certainly solve most of their problems. I think this will walk a fine line between science and religion. It could be argued as definitive proof of a creator entity, in show that is.

[James71]

I seriously doubt we will ever get to the episode that wraps this up.

[thekillman]

well it's obvious why they gave up on destiny now.

they figured that ascending would be easier to get to than their destination

[garhkal]

I would love it if that is the 'clava thesaurus ignatius (or how ever it was spelled)..

[reddevil18]

I think the Destiny is a giant Nespresso machine and it's heading for George Clooney, the creator of the universe.

[The Swarm]

Destiny's true mission is to transcent time and space ....so it can finaly deliver my frikin' Pizza on time!

[wolverine_nl]

Destiny's true mission is to transcent time and space ....so it can finaly deliver my frikin' Pizza on time!

Then the question remains:

Do you tip it?

[IMForeman]

So, if it is a message from the dawn of time, hidden in the background radiation, I can think of only 3 things it might say:

"We Apologize for the Inconvenience."

Or
"Bad Wolf."

Or
"Hello, Sweetie" and some coordinates.

[Carter's Boy]

http://www.oesquema.com.br/trabalhosujo/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/neuron-galaxy.jpg

maybe?

[The Swarm]

Then the question remains:

Do you tip it?

She wants a friggin' tip?
It says here on the coupon that it take a maximum of 30 minutes, not 10 million years!!!!!!! (I dont like eating a cold Pizza)

[garhkal]

10 mil years.. that would be some moldy pizza!

[The Swarm]

10 mil years.. that would be some moldy pizza!

Nah, the Ancients made they're Pizza's to last....

[wolverine_nl]

Gee! I guessed the mission correctly :P really without spoilers

[The Swarm]

Well the show is called Stargate Universe for a reason...

[Hippaforalkus1]

http://www.oesquema.com.br/trabalhosujo/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/neuron-galaxy.jpg

maybe?
That's a really cool idea. Smells of Babylon 5 though.

[Carter's Boy]

what was the babylon 5 synopsis?

(i never watched it but it looked like DS9 to me.)

[Xeon_1]

what was the babylon 5 synopsis?

(i never watched it but it looked like DS9 to me.)

you got it reversed DS9 is based on Babylon 5 only DS9 had a bigger budget but babylon 5 has good stories

[jelgate]

you got it reversed DS9 is based on Babylon 5 only DS9 had a bigger budget but babylon 5 has good stories
That was never proven. It always came off as JMS ranting about how DS9 got better numbers then B5.

[talyn2k1]

you got it reversed DS9 is based on Babylon 5 only DS9 had a bigger budget but babylon 5 has good stories

I don't think thats a fair comment, its like saying Universe is based on Voyager because they share a single story element. They were both based on stations but they had very different stories. Babylon 5's overall arc was a lot more epic where as DS9 was a new twist on the standard Trek formula, at least until the Dominion war started at which point it took a bold step away from standard Trek.

To get back on topic, I was surprised that Destiny's mission wasn't more serious, by that I mean that I was expecting something epicly dangerous and deadly, rather than just epic. I'm not disappointed as it is still an impressive mission and one that I think will have plenty of elements of danger along the way.

[Galileo_Galilee]

Yeah, SG U has similar story elements to BSG and Voyager.

But that doesn't make it plagarism.

If a story having similar storytelling elements to it made it plagarism that would eliminate nearl all of the stories that are out there and we'd be left with the original mythologies only and nothing new could be produced.

[Carter's Boy]

check out Science Channel's "Trough the Wormhole w/ Morgan Freeman" ep 'what happened before the beginning?'

once scientist said "the universe is oddly regular, as opposed to what we know of explosions"

[BRiDGELiFE]

Hows about going inside woman's thoughts to truly understand them... NOW That is a mission!

Noncomprehending...... Irrational...... CRAZY...... PSYCHO...... NUTS...... and for some reason always think there right, what a shame!! This goes for Women in Relationships, The Single Ladies are: Brilliant...... Smart...... Execellent...... Calm...... Cool...... Collective...... Supporting...... SEXY...... LOVELY...... Why Do you have to change :(

p.s. - Not meant to offend anyone, but everyone is entitled to there own opinions!! :)

[IMForeman]

Well, here's a turn up for the books, eh?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-11837869

[FoX-1028]

noncomprehending...... Irrational...... Crazy...... Psycho...... Nuts...... And for some reason always think there right, what a shame!! This goes for women in relationships, the single ladies are: Brilliant...... Smart...... Execellent...... Calm...... Cool...... Collective...... Supporting...... Sexy...... Lovely...... Why do you have to change :(

p.s. - not meant to offend anyone, but everyone is entitled to there own opinions!! :)

WACkO!!!!!!111!!