What about all the other galaxies?

[Crazy Tom]

OK, so the Milky Way and Pegasus Dwarf Irregular galaxies have both been explored on the show. But what about Andromeda and Triangulum.

Andromeda is half a million light years closer than Pegasus and it has approximately 1 trillion stars, versus the MW's 200-400 billion, and Pegasus' unknown but most probably significantly smaller number as it is a Dwarf Galaxy.

Triangulum in the meantime is approximately 3 million light years away, the same distance as Pegasus, and has 30-40 billion stars, raking as the third largest in the Local Cluster.

So why didn't the Ancients flee to any of these much larger galaxies after the Plague? Did Destiny seed these galaxies with stargates? And why do we know so little about them, when their the three biggest players in the Local Cluster?

[the-alguroan]

guess short-sightedness on the writers part, hell for all we know there could have been ancient civilizations and the plague wiped over there out. its just one of those things u wished they at least mentioned.

[Rise Of The Phoenix]

Maybe it will be something that will eventually be mentioned in Universe, god knows there's room to at least mention it in passing.
I guess it'd depend on whether Destiny and the seeder ships have traveled to every galaxy moving out from our's over the years it's been traveling.

I'd love to know what's out there in the Stargate Universe, it could be a never ending story.

[Control_Chair]

Maybe it will be something that will eventually be mentioned in Universe, god knows there's room to at least mention it in passing.
I guess it'd depend on whether Destiny and the seeder ships have traveled to every galaxy moving out from our's over the years it's been traveling.

I'd love to know what's out there in the Stargate Universe, it could be a never ending story.

Maybe as a follow up series to SGU, sending out a ship to explore along Destiny's early flight path through the local galaxies.

[Daryl Froggy]

It is my personal opinion that the Furlings come from one of those galaxies, my guess is Triangulum, and for some reason they didn't allow the Ancients to put any stargates in their galaxy.

As for the other nearby galaxies I'd guess that there are advanced civilizations in them but none that can cross the *vast galactic distances necessary to our discovery of them.

[colbmista]

It is my personal opinion that the Furlings come from one of those galaxies, my guess is Triangulum, and for some reason they didn't allow the Ancients to put any stargates in their galaxy.

As for the other nearby galaxies I'd guess that there are advanced civilizations in them but none that can cross the cast galactic distances necessary to our discovery of them.

that seems plausable

[Bodmanbod]

Well, perhaps the ancients chose Pegasus because it was the smallest. The ancients have never seen like an aggressive sort, I imagine the process of seeding life and gates and terraforming planets might seem a little aggressive to any advanced race already at home in a galaxy. Pegasus, as a dwarf galaxy thus had the lowest probability of having any advanced races to annoy or if there were any races a probability of there being less.

Failing that, the ancients might have gone to andromeda and triangulum first but told by the native races that they didnt want them doing that in their back yard and to shift yer hook

Lets face it the ancients are known cowards, certainly not invaders.

[asdf1239]

Lets face it the ancients are known cowards,

yes

[Quadhelix]

Lets face it the ancients are known cowards, certainly not invaders.

I feel that I should point out that the Ancients fought a war with the Wraith for nearly a century without giving up, and left Pegasus only after they were almost completely defeated.

If they had been cowards, they would have left much, much earlier.

[K^2]

Yes, "cowards" is definitely not the word. They are generally passive because they do not like to initiate aggression, but they are also very single minded once they set on something, and generally don't see something as trivial as an intent of another race to wipe them out as a good reason to go somewhere else. At least as long as there is some chance of winning or even simply outlasting the opposition. That's not the way of the coward.

[asdf1239]

they fought the wraith because of their overconfidence and they thought they could easily win, they had almost no reason to fear the wraith until they slipped up and let them capture zpms and even then it was a gradual process

[Quadhelix]

they fought the wraith because of their overconfidence and they thought they could easily win, they had almost no reason to fear the wraith until they slipped up and let them capture zpms and even then it was a gradual process

Yes, the Ancients were overconfident and assumed that they could win easily. However, they didn't leave when they found out that they could not - they stuck around for another hundred years. By the time the Ancients left, they had next to no warships left, to the point that the Ancients fleeing to Atlantis were being shot down because they did not have any escorts.

The Ancients didn't leave when the going got tough, they left when they no longer had any wheels.

[asdf1239]

the war itself went on for 100 years, we don't know when it started going in the wraiths favor.

[lord groovy]

I feel that I should point out that the Ancients fought a war with the Wraith for nearly a century without giving up, and left Pegasus only after they were almost completely defeated.

If they had been cowards, they would have left much, much earlier.

Technical pacifists, maybe?

[Quadhelix]

the war itself went on for 100 years, we don't know when it started going in the wraiths favor.

Presumably when the Wraith didn't obligingly die like they were supposed to do.

I mean, look at the US effort in Vietnam: we were there for nearly a decade, and were pretty much winning the whole time. In fact, the Tet Offensive (which was one of the reasons that we pulled out) was far more of a public relations victory than a military victory. Indeed, by military standards, it was a complete disaster and had effectively crippled the Viet Cong. In other words, the US had all but won when it pulled out of Vietnam after a decade or so. (BTW, if anyone has studied history, please feel free to correct me)

Contrast this with the Ancients, who fought for a century and had next to nothing left when they pulled out.

Technical pacifists, maybe?

Maybe closer to "provisional pacifists" - willing to make concessions to avoid conflict, but willing (if not completely able) to fight when the need arises.