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nxcalibur
November 2nd, 2009, 01:41 AM
Going through the screencaptures of Water I saw next to the first shuttle something that looked like weapons. That thing with the three pipes, which looked like muzzles. (gateworld gallery - picture 266 of 1179) Did anyone notice?

I mean, we know that the Ancients clearly were no aggressive race, but they had ways of defending themselves. And the drones seem to be one of their later inventions. So when they started Destiny they had to install something kind of weaponry to defend itself. Maybe not intentionally against any hostile race but perhaps against any kind of space debris? Destiny is quite a big ship, which makes it kind of hard to stop it from one second to the other, or simply evade some rocks that are too big to just bounce of the shields.

Mardius
November 2nd, 2009, 01:46 AM
yep those are indeed cannons, i saw em at the very beginning of air during that first flyby.

my theory is that what it fires is the precursor to the drone, same power but without the mental control.

we'll see though

escyos
November 2nd, 2009, 01:47 AM
yes, there are used in the next episode

nxcalibur
November 2nd, 2009, 04:55 AM
Really? Cool! Thanks for the information. Although I tried to avoid reading spoilers, I couldn't resist! :cameron:

KEK
November 2nd, 2009, 04:58 AM
Just in case anyone was wondering what we're talking about...

http://www.gateworld.net/gallery/albums/uni_season1/106-Water/screencaps/normal_sgu_106_0375.jpg

kirmit
November 2nd, 2009, 05:04 AM
They're some big guns, hope they pack a punch.

Nemises
November 2nd, 2009, 09:15 AM
there are plenty on the sides aswell.

i see one shuttle is missing on the left.

IcarusAbides
November 2nd, 2009, 10:09 AM
The ancients prepared the ship for a fight out there then, i wonder if there is any ammunition for them or has it all been used previously.

j_talyn
November 2nd, 2009, 11:27 AM
I'm also wondering if there is priority level weapon or main cannon. So far I've only seen those turret like cannon system's. That's a pretty massive ship and I would hope there's an "ace up its own sleeve."

BrianD
November 2nd, 2009, 01:16 PM
My hypothesis perhaps they use energy as opposed to actual ammunition like the drones. You gotta think if something is designed to be in space for millions of years and explore the last thing you want to happen is for the ammo to run out. Since they can recharge energy through the different stars it would hence recharge their ammo.

morrismike
November 2nd, 2009, 01:18 PM
The weapons and shielding must be effective. It's a sure bet they've been attacked thousands of times considering now long they've been out.

Neon Tiger
November 2nd, 2009, 01:43 PM
Just in case anyone was wondering what we're talking about...

http://www.gateworld.net/gallery/albums/uni_season1/106-Water/screencaps/normal_sgu_106_0375.jpg
Oh cool. I never noticed those before! They look so retro! If this was BSG I'd have to say stay out of the Destiny's firing solution.

the fifth man
November 2nd, 2009, 08:03 PM
The weapons and shielding must be effective. It's a sure bet they've been attacked thousands of times considering now long they've been out.

Yeah, Destiny has definitely seen some action in her day.

Phantom6
November 2nd, 2009, 08:11 PM
Yeah, Destiny has definitely seen some action in her day.

All several trillion of them.

Re1ndeer
November 2nd, 2009, 08:15 PM
My hypothesis perhaps they use energy as opposed to actual ammunition like the drones. You gotta think if something is designed to be in space for millions of years and explore the last thing you want to happen is for the ammo to run out. Since they can recharge energy through the different stars it would hence recharge their ammo.

That sounds like it would make sence. Another of the problems with having a drone ammo is you would have to maintain the drones. You would have to only maintain the gun and not many other things if you just use energy.

Mongoletsi
November 3rd, 2009, 12:53 AM
my theory is that what it fires is the precursor to the drone, same power but without the mental control.
You got all that by looking at a turret no different to main guns seen on warships today? Well done!

Captain Obvious
November 3rd, 2009, 12:58 AM
You got all that by looking at a turret no different to main guns seen on warships today? Well done!

He called it a theory, he didn't claim it to be gospel or shoot down anything anyone else said. As far as I know speculation is allowed.

Honestly, I think they will be more along the lines of standard particle weapons, since everything on the ship so far seems to be designed to be self-sustained. Having something not requiring ammo would make it easier.

Mongoletsi
November 3rd, 2009, 01:07 AM
He called it a theory, he didn't claim it to be gospel or shoot down anything anyone else said. As far as I know speculation is allowed.
B-b-b-but I'm baffled at how a set of pipes could be construed as an automated proto-drone launcher. Speculation is ace, but there should be some factual basis to start from :)


Honestly, I think they will be more along the lines of standard particle weapons, since everything on the ship so far seems to be designed to be self-sustained. Having something not requiring ammo would make it easier.Agreed.

Lord Hurin
November 3rd, 2009, 11:42 AM
B-b-b-but I'm baffled at how a set of pipes could be construed as an automated proto-drone launcher. Speculation is ace, but there should be some factual basis to start from :)

He was probably just being hopeful because, let's face it; drones are awesome! :cool:

GateroomGuard
November 3rd, 2009, 12:33 PM
Yeah those look more like energy weapons than drone launchers. Of course considering the age of the Destiny those cannons would probably have a hard time punching through Goauld shields.

smooTh__
November 3rd, 2009, 12:50 PM
If 1 little drone could smack down an entire ha'tak, then I'm sure their predecessors were able to pack a serious punch too ^^

Keep in mind, even at the time of destinys launch, the ancients were still capable of stargate construction, ftl travel and highly advanced AI (as seen on destiny). I reckon they'd be able to construct weapons good enough to pwn the goa'uld. =P

smooTh__
November 3rd, 2009, 02:31 PM
If 1 little drone could smack down an entire ha'tak, then I'm sure their predecessors were able to pack a serious punch too ^^

Keep in mind, even at the time of destinys launch, the ancients were still capable of stargate construction, ftl travel and highly advanced AI (as seen on destiny). I reckon they'd be able to construct weapons good enough to pwn the goa'uld. =P

Sonicbluemustang
November 3rd, 2009, 03:18 PM
I would assume that the weapons are only automated like the refueling and such.

GateroomGuard
November 3rd, 2009, 03:50 PM
If 1 little drone could smack down an entire ha'tak, then I'm sure their predecessors were able to pack a serious punch too ^^

Keep in mind, even at the time of destinys launch, the ancients were still capable of stargate construction, ftl travel and highly advanced AI (as seen on destiny). I reckon they'd be able to construct weapons good enough to pwn the goa'uld. =P

I don't know. With shield tech having advanced so much I think the Destiny would have a problem with a fleet of Hataks. Though with Destiny's shields it would just end up a stalmate in my mind.

escyos
November 4th, 2009, 02:36 PM
there are plenty on the sides aswell.

i see one shuttle is missing on the left.

there is no place for a shuttle on the left, there is a spot for another shuttle behind the one on the right


I don't know. With shield tech having advanced so much I think the Destiny would have a problem with a fleet of Hataks. Though with Destiny's shields it would just end up a stalmate in my mind.

yea i think that a hatak against the destiny would end pretty bad for destiny. the only reason i think the shield lasted like the did in the star is they were designed to use teh energy from the star to power he shields as it went.

oh and there are 4 cannons (that we have seen) on destiny, there are two on the back of the ship facing behind them

koroush47
November 5th, 2009, 06:33 PM
I wish they shoot like white lasers or something.


That would be awesome.

ZPM Odyssey
February 24th, 2011, 10:07 AM
I'm also wondering if there is priority level weapon or main cannon. So far I've only seen those turret like cannon system's. That's a pretty massive ship and I would hope there's an "ace up its own sleeve."

there is a main cannon on the underside of the ship
it is used against one of the blue alien's motherships