Kino

[Spimman]

So what did you all think of the Kino? I was fairly impressed. It makes a lot more sense than the giant clunky things we have always used, but honestly I wasn't expecting something quite that clever. I also like the camera angles they are able to get by using them.

[Jason]

I thought it was pretty cool. For some reason, I was kinda expecting an argument over the naming of the thing.

I really like that as a new MALP. Not bulky, and probably not as likely to get shot down.

[Dark lord me]

Now how long till they learn about the hidden blaster compartment in them =P ( Star Wars IV Refrence)

[Medicman]

Really cool technology. I wonder what makes them tick.

[PG15]

I thought it was cute. :D

[Terra Atlantus]

What did Eli called it later in front of Rush, flying camera ball?

*It's not a gumball machine*

[obsidian1771]

The Kino was great - reminded me of a Toclafane sphere from Doctor Who! Now we just have to wait and see if it records anything suspicious about Rush.

[Mr chuckles]

I was just wondering why kino wasn't used in Atlantis?

[Giantevilhead]

Atlantis had puddle jumpers. It probably had sensors, which should have been able to scan whatever's on the other side of a gate.

[The6thRace]

I was just wondering why kino wasn't used in Atlantis?

Because Kino's were patented by an ancient Ancient and in Ancient law, patents never expire, thus they were not able to replicate any more for Atlantis without violating several copyright laws.

[Solokiller]

I'm just wondering why they didn't use a kino to close the shuttle's door.

[Orion Antreas]

I'm just wondering why they didn't use a kino to close the shuttle's door.


That could have been an option, however, Senator Armstrong was a dillusion due to the extreme pain he was feeling, so he acted before the group could think of something like that. (Someone else mentioned the same think. I think it was Pandora. :P

Anyways, I loved the Kino scenes. Especially its introduction. The music that went along with it was awesome. Even though JM said that they are not sentient or anything, they almost act like it, in my humble opinion. Can't wait to see more of the Kino. :D

[koroush47]

I'm just wondering why they didn't use a kino to close the shuttle's door.


Maybe because all it does is float and send information...


How would they make it work a touch screen console?

[luckylad]

Maybe because all it does is float and send information...


How would they make it work a touch screen console?

For this you will need
1 ball point pen
1 lighter
1 kino
1 kino control

firstly you strip down the pen so you just have the plastic then you use the lighter to melt it onto the kino giving it a prodding device. Now you use the kino control to close the door

[POW]

Kino is ok but a Puddle jumper would be more usefull I mean 12 hours is not alot of time to investigate an entire planet.

[Spimman]

Kino is ok but a Puddle jumper would be more usefull I mean 12 hours is not alot of time to investigate an entire planet.

They referenced another shuttle that looks easily capable of holding 10 or so people that could likely get anywhere on the planet fairly quickly.

[POW]

They referenced another shuttle that looks easily capable of holding 10 or so people that could likely get anywhere on the planet fairly quickly.

My understanding is the ship stopped somewhere in space dialed a planet somewhere else. The shuttle is only usefull if they are near the planet and if that is the case their would be no need and would be impossible in fact to open a stargate their.

Its a slight possibility the shuttle may have hyperdrive engines but judging from its size I dont think so.

[garhkal]

Kino is ok but a Puddle jumper would be more usefull I mean 12 hours is not alot of time to investigate an entire planet.

Actually those shuttles they had did look like a reallllllllllllly early version of a jumper.

[haloplayer]

Now how long till they learn about the hidden blaster compartment in them =P ( Star Wars IV Refrence)

Maybe it can also shoot weak lasers :D

[Rac80]

Kino was a fun idea....:)

[Alan Wake]

I was just wondering why kino wasn't used in Atlantis?

Probably more then likely that well it was used on the destiny, the Ancients didn't like the overall design of it... and didn't move it over to Atlantis. Or it was only intended for the Destiny because it was an unmanned ship, and they needed some unmanned probes to go about the Ship.

Atlantis was never meant to be an unmanned city/ship... so they had no need for probes on it.

[PG15]

The Ancients got over their voyeuristic tendencies. ;)

[s09119]

The Ancients got over their voyeuristic tendencies. ;)

I hate and love this statement all at once... xD

[escyos]

i like when rush and the others are talking about someone sacrificing themselves to close the shuttle door, and you see from the kino vision, eli giving a look to the kino.

also when he is giving a video diary to the kino

[Lost]

What were they called?

Anyway, I bet SG1 would have been smart enough to use them to close that door instead of the old guy that died.

I'm glad the guy is gone and all, but the door problem was kind of lame.

These people must have never seen Macgyver episodes.

[SaberBlade]

They were called KINO's

[Kidwizz]

Kino, based on some Russion thing hehe.

[Eternal Density]

cute, and cooler than I expected :D

[K^2]

Now how long till they learn about the hidden blaster compartment in them =P
Oh, just until some unsolvable problem presents itself, that turns out to be quite solvable with a floating camera ball with a blaster and an immeasurable amount of dumb luck.

[s09119]

What were they called?

Anyway, I bet SG1 would have been smart enough to use them to close that door instead of the old guy that died.

I'm glad the guy is gone and all, but the door problem was kind of lame.

These people must have never seen Macgyver episodes.

Does it occur to you that it may have required a living being to be pressing it?

[lmoroney]

I didn't get where the name 'KINO' came from?

The dialog (paraphrashed)

ELI
I'm going to call them KINO's after the -

SCOTT (Interrupting)
Yeah, I get it


Was there an in joke there that I'm missing?

[s09119]

I didn't get where the name 'KINO' came from?

The dialog (paraphrashed)

ELI
I'm going to call them KINO's after the -

SCOTT (Interrupting)
Yeah, I get it


Was there an in joke there that I'm missing?

Eli said "...after the Russian..." so I'm guessing...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kino_(band)

[lmoroney]

Ahhhh....sweet, thanks -- I'll have to check them out.

[EvilSpaceAlien]

So what did you all think of the Kino?

I thought it was adorable :D

[T.Martin]

"Kino" ist a german word and means "Cinema" or "movie theater"...that's the joke!!!

[thekillman]

yes i believe that is the joke. das kino.

[Lord Kira]

I don't trust those Kino things. I've seen the Phantasm movies, I know what suspicious flying spheres can do to you!

[techwork]

Eli said "...after the Russian..." so I'm guessing...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kino_(band)

Ha you found this my little frend geeeee :) Hey i first say this joke in other theme :). Dr. Nicholas Rush as Victor Tsoi.

[techwork]

"Kino" ist a german word and means "Cinema" or "movie theater"...that's the joke!!!

But Eli said "from Russian" and I know why ;)

[Sule]

I think the Kino will be used in later episodes to uncover some dark secret that Rush or somebody else has. The way that the Kino was used, how Eli made it follow them like a spy gadget. It seems like they are hinting at something... Maybe someone else is watching the Kino's?

[Orion Antreas]

What were they called?

Anyway, I bet SG1 would have been smart enough to use them to close that door instead of the old guy that died.

I'm glad the guy is gone and all, but the door problem was kind of lame.

These people must have never seen Macgyver episodes.

As I and others have pointed out, they may have found another way, but Senator Armstrong was delusional from the extreme pain he was in. If he didn't sacrifice himself, they might have figured out another way.

[K^2]

"Kino" ist a german word and means "Cinema" or "movie theater"...that's the joke!!!
Same as in Russian, which is cited as the source.

I really don't think that Victor Tsoi's Kino has anything to do with it.

[lmoroney]

I think the Kino will be used in later episodes to uncover some dark secret that Rush or somebody else has. The way that the Kino was used, how Eli made it follow them like a spy gadget. It seems like they are hinting at something... Maybe someone else is watching the Kino's?

One innovation that Brad and Robert are doing in SGU is 'breaking down the fourth wall' between the actor and the audience, and they're using the Kino to do so.

The concept is that as wella s shooting the main show, they're shooting 1:1 Kino interviews with the characters, in reaction to the various things that happen in the episodes. For example, if you've seen Air 1+2, you can imagine what Chloe will be saying to the Kino.

The _hope_ was for these to end up as Webisodes, and these are the Webisodes that you might have heard referred to over time.

Not sure where they're at right now, but the safe assumption is that we'll end up seeing them sooner or later -- they're pretty terrific.

Also, another little tidbit is that Eli is taking pictures of what he sees on the Kino, and making notes to keep somewhat of a history. You'll see these in the Kino room photosynth when it goes live (very soon)

When I first visited the set, I saw the note he made on Chloe's one, and said 'SPOILER', so we had to hold it back...

Laurence

[Ghost22]

Hey guys, i just noticed in the atlantis episode 3-4, when they're back on sateda. The wraith basicly have a kino. Doesnt look exactly the same, but its a flying little ball with a camera.

I had forgotten all about it, just caugt it in the episode.

[Eternal Density]

The Goa'uld had a flying ball too, in Heroes.

[yelims]

Kino translates as Cinema in Russian

[thekillman]

yes we already know, as does it in German.

[techwork]

In russian this from greek ?????? - movement. The original sound was - kina. But in the 30s years linguists have decided that the right to speak - kino. In the Russian language for scientific terms traditionally prefer Greek or a mix of Greek Russian and Persian (Old version - mix arabic and protoiranic (heh babilonian, this not correct term but... for understanding). For interaction with western science is used and the Latin based terminology. But this is only after end 18 c. and reign of Catherine 2 (german in origin). And Last Tsar Nikolay 2 is genetically on 7/8 - german.

[aretood2]

The Goa'uld had a flying ball too, in Heroes.

Since the Goa'uld seem to steal ancient stuff it makes sense. Next thing they need is a Ancient Glider!

But I wonder if the Kino would also be used as a preview to upcoming episodes, For example

They talk about an ambiguous event that takes place in the fallowing episode.

[techwork]

I think kino will be used to show other POV on already shown in episode and for intermediates between events of the series frames. e.g. Eli accidentally saw through the "Kino" a fight between Chloe and ... or Rush that is doing something with some of device, then see how he takes the "Kino" in the hands and then white noise. Those who have not watched these episodes will not lose anything. And he who has seen better understand what is happening.

[J-Whitt Remastered]

What refrence was Eli making with the Kinos (Keynos?) when Scott cut him off? Everyone took it in stride, but I was left scratching my head at it. Anyone know what he was talking about?

[Cold Fuzz]

I think kino will be used to show other POV on already shown in episode and for intermediates between events of the series frames. e.g. Eli accidentally saw through the "Kino" a fight between Chloe and ... or Rush that is doing something with some of device, then see how he takes the "Kino" in the hands and then white noise. Those who have not watched these episodes will not lose anything. And he who has seen better understand what is happening.

No doubt that the Kinos can be used for some potentially comic moments on a show that's going to be dark and otherwise brooding.

[PacoJr67]

I know that Eli mentioned some Russian reference.

But in German a Kino is a movie (or Movie theater or Video Camera)

[KnightCrusader]

Since the Goa'uld seem to steal ancient stuff it makes sense.

Crap, you beat me to that. When I saw those the first thing I thought "yet another thing the Goa'uld ripped off the ancients!"

When he said Keno the first thing I thought was the bingo-like game I have seen played that uses balls.... or Keno balls. I guess I was way off...

[Quadhelix]

Wikipedia to the rescue (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_technology_in_Stargate#Other_3): "Eli Wallace named it after the Russian word for 'cinema.'"

[Cold Fuzz]

Wikipedia to the rescue (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_technology_in_Stargate#Other_3): "Eli Wallace named it after the Russian word for 'cinema.'"

I love Scott's exasperated facial reaction to the Kinos and Eli's naming of them. You can see "OMG save me from the geekness" written all over Scott's face.

[Encoder]

I love Scott's exasperated facial reaction to the Kinos and Eli's naming of them. You can see "OMG save me from the geekness" written all over Scott's face.

"It's not a gum ball machine!" lol

:sheppard:

[Cold Fuzz]

"It's not a gum ball machine!" lol

:sheppard:

I'm pretty sure that the whole Kino naming thing will get brought up again at some point, a la "Gateship" vs. "Puddlejumper" in Atlantis.

Rush will come up with something sophisticated-sounding and then Scott, Eli or Young will probably say, "You know what? Let's stick with Kino."

[aretood2]

I'm pretty sure that the whole Kino naming thing will get brought up again at some point, a la "Gateship" vs. "Puddlejumper" in Atlantis.

Rush will come up with something sophisticated-sounding and then Scott, Eli or Young will probably say, "You know what? Let's stick with Kino."

What was the Goa'uld thing called again?

[Rac80]

Hey guys, i just noticed in the atlantis episode 3-4, when they're back on sateda. The wraith basicly have a kino. Doesnt look exactly the same, but its a flying little ball with a camera.

I had forgotten all about it, just caugt it in the episode.

good catch...green for seeing that one. :D

[g.o.d]

Anubis had a "sligthly bigger" version of the KINO (in "Heroes", if I remeber it correctly)

[jelgate]

Anubis had a "sligthly bigger" version of the KINO (in "Heroes", if I remeber it correctly)

I assume your talking about the "Kino" from Heroes. Was it ever proved that belong to Anubis?

[Encoder]

What was the Goa'uld thing called again?

Is this what you are referring to? It's called a Voccum.

http://gateworld.net/omnipedia/technology/v/vocuum.shtml

:sheppard:

[Cold Fuzz]

Is this what you are referring to? It's called a Voccum.

http://gateworld.net/omnipedia/technology/v/vocuum.shtml

:sheppard:

Actually, the first thing I thought of were Tacs (http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Tac). Tacluchnatagamuntoron--yeah, tacs.

[garhkal]

The Goa'uld had a flying ball too, in Heroes.


That was more of a probe droid like the Empire had in Empire strikes back.
Actualy the kino reminded me of that 'sensor' devce the wraith used in early season 1 of atlantis on that planet with all the kids.

[techwork]

What refrence was Eli making with the Kinos (Keynos?) when Scott cut him off? Everyone took it in stride, but I was left scratching my head at it. Anyone know what he was talking about?

No simple Kino as Destiny . with Kino:D

[Achaja]

Kino means cinema in Polish as well:), I laughted when I heard familiar word :D

[techwork]

Kino means cinema in Polish as well:), I laughted when I heard familiar word :D
Yes from Russian :) Poland was part of Imperial Russia.

[MechaThor]

Kino means cinema in Polish as well:), I laughted when I heard familiar word :D

I wonder why Eli knew this however? Ok his smart, but his not a language expert his "Math boy". Of course he might have researched other languages while trying to crack the Ancient language code, but still.
Even Scott knew what Kino means, as part of SGC trainning do they all need to learn Russian?

Of course I like the name Knio, I just find it strange that Eli would think of that word off the top of his head, I figured he would have given it some SCI-FI name like HAL or Guilty Spark. Or even some stupid name like Ballbot, The iDroid or Spy Ball HD.

[PG15]

You don't need to know Russion to know what KINO is. You just need to be a geek who spends a lot of time learning useless info on the Internet.