"Justice" (110) Pre-Airing Discussion/Speculation Thread

[PG15]

Writer: Alan McCullough (polished by Paul Mullie, produced by Brad Wright)
Director: Will Waring

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Ok...I'm only half sure that this is episode 9, because I'm getting some mixed signals here...


Back on the office today for another day of SGU spinning. We skipped episode 9 (While I like the general premise and think it could be a lot of fun and, really, at the end of the day who doesn’t like fun?, I feel that, unlike the other stories we’ve discussed so far, this one is far more nebulous. Fearing we might well spend our final three days trying to spin a story out of this kernel of an idea, I suggested we move on to #10 and #11 which, at the very least, are somewhat more substantial in comparison)

http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2008/11/19/november-19-2008-tokyo-travel-and-spinning-stargate-universe-day-7/


PG15 also writes: “what’s happening with episode 9 of Universe? Any development on that yet? Have you guys gotten a writer for it yet?”

Answer: Rob mentioned the fact that he’d like to spin it soon. Probably next week.

http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2009/01/09/january-9-2009-swag-sausage-and-the-mailbag/


PG15 writes: "[...] 3. How's episode 9 doing now?"

Answers: [...] 3. The episode originally slotted in the #9 spot has been moved back in the schedule and a new story -which we'll be breaking next week - will take its place. Carl Binder will assume writing duties on the script.

http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2009/01/24/january-24-2009-to-haggis-or-not-to-haggis/


Paul has landed the polish of episode #9 and I’m presently tinkering with the my completed first draft of episode #10.

http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2009/02/12/february-12-2009-pre-production-update-and-those-things-better-left-said-or-unsaid/


My writing/producing partner Paul walked into my office, plunked himself down on the couch, and started talking about his rewrite on the Judgment script. As he sat there, chatting away, a question immediately popped into my head that had nothing do with the kino or Rush’s character of the big fourth act WTF moment. “What the hell are you wearing?”I asked.

http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2009/03/06/march-6-2009-barney-the-dinosaurs-unhatched-little-brother-and-blame-it-all-on-exhaustion/

Yeah...so...there you go?

[s09119]

Okay, now I'm just upset. Enough with the one-word titles, I don't wanna watch Smallville.

[frostwolf]

JM is getting good at sneaking new titles of episodes into his blog though.

[Pandora's_Box]

Okay, now I'm just upset. Enough with the one-word titles, I don't wanna watch Smallville.

I think the content will be more important than the titles.

Eh, I don't mind the single word titles. They can be just as pretentious as the long titles that try to sound all wise and/or clever.

Be All My Sins Remembered, anyone?

[Phenom]

Titles shmitles....As long as the eps are great who cares what they are called. Cant wait for SGU!

[s09119]

I think the content will be more important than the titles.

Eh, I don't mind the single word titles. They can be just as pretentious as the long titles that try to sound all wise and/or clever.

Be All My Sins Remembered, anyone?

I think the title can do a lot for the episode and show in general. For example, Babylon 5 had episode names that had a great impact on things, that reinforced the epic struggle going on, and that conveyed a sense of power. Battlestar Galactica has done the same a few times.

[Pandora's_Box]

I think the title can do a lot for the episode and show in general. For example, Babylon 5 had episode names that had a great impact on things, that reinforced the epic struggle going on, and that conveyed a sense of power. Battlestar Galactica has done the same a few times.

And I agree, but we haven't seen very much of that (if an at all) from these PTB so I don't really care which way they go with episode titles for SGU.

I mean you can't get anymore cliche than Air, Earth, Water, and Fire. And then Time. :rolleyes:

And their longer titles for SGA usually were nothing special either. Some of them sounded cool, but aside from a select few, they were unremarkable.

Just my opinion of course. :D

[kennythewraith]

Okay, now I'm just upset. Enough with the one-word titles, I don't wanna watch Smallville.

seriously?this upsets you?its a title of a tv show...and smallville didnt create one worded titles and at least these titles might actually have something to do with the story.
but titles dont make or break the episode for me.i dont care.they arent important and i forget most of them anyway

[DeeKayP]

Writer: Paul Mullie
Director: ?

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Ok...I'm only half sure that this is episode 9, because I'm getting some mixed signals here...



http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2008/11/19/november-19-2008-tokyo-travel-and-spinning-stargate-universe-day-7/



http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2009/01/09/january-9-2009-swag-sausage-and-the-mailbag/



http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2009/01/24/january-24-2009-to-haggis-or-not-to-haggis/



http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2009/02/12/february-12-2009-pre-production-update-and-those-things-better-left-said-or-unsaid/



http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2009/03/06/march-6-2009-barney-the-dinosaurs-unhatched-little-brother-and-blame-it-all-on-exhaustion/

Yeah...so...there you go?

I'm confused along with you. From my "calculations", Episode #9 is Alan McCullough's script that Paul Mullie was going to "polish" because McCullough's not there anymore. As far as scripts that Paul is writing fully -- that would be Episode #11, the second part to the mid-season two-parter. I don't think Paul is rewriting his writing/producing partner Joe Mallozzi's script, though, which is Episode #10 (I think Joe would have said it differently if it were his script that Paul was rewriting).

My original thought when I read this was that "Judgment" is Episode #11.

Guess we'll need to ask for clarification.

[PG15]

Indeed, I thought it may be #11 as well, but JM has said in the past that it was lagging in terms of progress (it was just an outline when JM was writing his script); I don't think PM can write that fast that he's suddenly on a rewrite now.

Better go ask...

[DeeKayP]

Indeed, I thought it may be #11 as well, but JM has said in the past that it was lagging in terms of progress (it was just an outline when JM was writing his script); I don't think PM can write that fast that he's suddenly on a rewrite now.

Better go ask...

What's kind of confusing is that Paul's been working on two scripts and Joe hasn't reported much on Paul's work since February 12 -- which is plenty of time for Paul to finish both scripts. But, like you say, Episode #9 was closer to being done at that time than Episode #11.

I hope he answers your question. :)

[Descent]

Okay, now I'm just upset. Enough with the one-word titles, I don't wanna watch Smallville.

Oh jeez. They can call it anything they want for all I care.... as long as the episode itself is awesome. ;)

[I_C_Ancients]

Originally Posted by s09119
Okay, now I'm just upset. Enough with the one-word titles, I don't wanna watch Smallville.


Originally Posted by Pandora's Box
I think the content will be more important than the titles.

Eh, I don't mind the single word titles. They can be just as pretentious as the long titles that try to sound all wise and/or clever.

Be All My Sins Remembered, anyone?

And for any Star Trek TOS fans out there, do you remember the title "For The World Is Hollow And I Have Touched The Sky"

So actually I don't really mind one word titles, I like them better than those really lengthy titles which are IMHO a tad OVERDONE!!

[Madwelshboy]

I'm confused along with you. From my "calculations", Episode #9 is Alan McCullough's script that Paul Mullie was going to "polish" because McCullough's not there anymore. As far as scripts that Paul is writing fully -- that would be Episode #11, the second part to the mid-season two-parter. I don't think Paul is rewriting his writing/producing partner Joe Mallozzi's script, though, which is Episode #10 (I think Joe would have said it differently if it were his script that Paul was rewriting).

My original thought when I read this was that "Judgment" is Episode #11.

Guess we'll need to ask for clarification.


Indeed, I thought it may be #11 as well, but JM has said in the past that it was lagging in terms of progress (it was just an outline when JM was writing his script); I don't think PM can write that fast that he's suddenly on a rewrite now.

Better go ask...

I thought episode 9 was Carl's

The episode originally slotted in the #9 spot has been moved back in the schedule and a new story -which we’ll be breaking next week - will take its place. Carl Binder will assume writing duties on the script.
http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2009/01/24/january-24-2009-to-haggis-or-not-to-haggis/

Doing the polish dosent mean Paul is writing it, just fine tuning it after its been written

With Alun writing episode 8

Answers: Who is writing episode 8? 3.8 = Alan McCullough.
http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2008/12/23/december-23-2008-montreal-bound/

With Paul writing the second part of the mid season 2-parter i.e. episode 11

[Alan Wake]

Judgement? Not such a bad title... but whenever I read it I just think of past episodes of Stargate.

Team goes to a world, they do something wrong, put on trail for the crimes, at the end they solve the problem and life goes on.

Although I'm sure this won't be the case with this episode.

[PG15]

I thought episode 9 was Carl's

http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2009/01/24/january-24-2009-to-haggis-or-not-to-haggis/

Doing the polish dosent mean Paul is writing it, just fine tuning it after its been written

With Alun writing episode 8

http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2008/12/23/december-23-2008-montreal-bound/

With Paul writing the second part of the mid season 2-parter i.e. episode 11

Makes sense, but then there's this:


Carl also submitted an outline for episode #8, received notes, and is poised to do a rewrite - just as soon as he finishes work on a certain movie script.

http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2009/02/12/february-12-2009-pre-production-update-and-those-things-better-left-said-or-unsaid/

[jelgate]

I could care less about the title. Some episodes have had bad titles but good quality and vice versa

[Terra Atlantus]

I did a quick survey and ~47% of all episode titles in SG-1 and Atlantis together is one word.

[s09119]

I did a quick survey and ~47% of all episode titles in SG-1 and Atlantis together is one word.

Yes, but it's not 9 of them in a row. Ever.

[jenks]

Yes, but it's not 9 of them in a row. Ever.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but we only have the names of 8 episodes, and they're not in a row.

[s09119]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but we only have the names of 8 episodes, and they're not in a row.

Thank you, how could I have been so blind. And we have 7 confirmed to be all right in a row. That illustrates my point, does it not?

[jenks]

Thank you, how could I have been so blind. And we have 7 confirmed to be all right in a row. That illustrates my point, does it not?

That there are a lot of one name titles? I suppose, not sure why it matters like...

[Jumper_One]

PG15 writes: “So, which episode may this be? Is Judgement episode 109, or 111?”

Answer: 109.

PG15 also writes: “Is Judgement Alan’s script that Paul is polishing…”

Answer: Yes.
http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2009/03/07/march-7-2009-how-do-you-answer-the-call-of-nature-if-youre-stuck-on-a-cargo-ship/

[DeeKayP]

http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2009/03/07/march-7-2009-how-do-you-answer-the-call-of-nature-if-youre-stuck-on-a-cargo-ship/

Good job, PG15!

[PG15]

Thanks!

Updating 1st post...

[Jumper_One]

Sgeureka writes: “In your December 23 entry, you wrote that Alan would write 108, and you mentioned in your January 24 entry that Carl would write episode 109. Have the episode slots been swapped, or is Alan writing two eps in a row?”

Answer: Episode slots are being swapped all over the place. I got a dozen eggs and a handful of magic beans for mine.
http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2009/03/08/march-8-2009-author-mark-j-ferrari-drops-by/

[Jumper_One]

Ooops. Carl poked his head into my office and corrected my faux pas. Episode #9 isn’t called Judgement as I originally reported (although I think that Judgment is a more appropriate title). Rather, #109 is titled Justice. Someone please head over to Gateworld and change the name of the discussion thread.
http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2009/03/09/march-9-2009-dogs-by-nancy-kress/

[PG15]

Oh, I forgot this bit from a past JM blog entry:



At a little after 11:00, we convened in the writers’ room and started spinning Alan’s story. We broke for lunch, then resumed the discussion on shipboard justice and the ever-developing interrelations among the crew. Factions, fractions, and surprising revelations. By the time we called it a day, we had beaten out Alan’s story.

http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2008/11/17/november-17-2008-chef-belcham-at-the-plate-spinning-stargate-universe-day-5-the-mailbag/

[Jonzey]

So far we know next to nothing about the storyline for this episode, but Mallozzi has hinted in the past that it will deal with “shipboard justice and the ever-developing interrelations among the crew.”
http://www.gateworld.net/news/2009/03/universe-episode-9-is-justice/

So I'm guessing someone on board commits a crime and they have to decide how to deal with them. But what kinda crime?

[jelgate]

Or someone wants Justice against the Destiny crew or someone on the Destiny wants justice against some alien. The list goes on

[Jonzey]

That's not what I thought when I read that snippet.

[jelgate]

What snippet. All we know is the episode's name is Justice. That can be interperted a variety of ways.

[PG15]

I think he/she meant "shipboard justice and the ever-developing interrelations among the crew."

It would certainly be more meaningful for a member of the crew, who we've grown to known in the 8 previous episodes, to face a trial than some random alien (or some random alien judging us). Haven't we learned that with "Inquisition"? ;)

[Jonzey]

I think he/she meant "shipboard justice and the ever-developing interrelations among the crew."

It would certainly be more meaningful for a member of the crew, who we've grown to known in the 8 previous episodes, to face a trial than some random alien (or some random alien judging us). Haven't we learned that with "Inquisition"? ;)

He. And that is what I meant. Thank you. I'm just thinking whatever crime they have commited would be a good indication of how dark/edgy they want the show to be- for example theft/assault = not very dark. Murder = pretty dark. Rape = very dark and would probably put me off the show.

[Pandora's_Box]

I think he/she meant "shipboard justice and the ever-developing interrelations among the crew."

It would certainly be more meaningful for a member of the crew, who we've grown to known in the 8 previous episodes, to face a trial than some random alien (or some random alien judging us). Haven't we learned that with "Inquisition"? ;)

Do not remind me of that farce.

Ugh!

[kennythewraith]

im thinking somebody does something that is very very bad...and they cant decide wat to do wiht him/her because..they are in another galaxy

[reddevil18]

im thinking somebody does something that is very very bad...and they cant decide wat to do wiht him/her because..they are in another galaxyTO THE AIRLOCK! Where's Roslin when you need her?

[jelgate]

TO THE AIRLOCK! Where's Roslin when you need her?

She is too busy hanging around Adama to do any real work:P

[PG15]

Small update:


Also on Monday, we’ll be discussing Paul’s rewrite of Justice. It’s a very strong script and, going by the consensus preliminary response, he should have an easy time implementing any notes.

http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2009/03/13/march-13-2009-good-news-bad-news-scripts-secrecy-and-mailbag/

[major davis]

Chloe: Were not supposed to be here

Father: Chloe calm down, I think it's quite obvious.

Chloe: But Daddy, these people are not supposed to be here

Father: It's ok sweety cakes, we'll find a way off the Destiny, or should i say, our destiny.

Chloe: But dadda, I'm not supposed to be here, I forgot to set the DVR for 90210

Father: Now, you have done it. You're dead

The senator grabs a gun from one of the marines and goes crazy shooting everybody, and chases chloe around the ship like a mainac trying to kill her.

This is the episode JUSTICE. LOL

[reddevil18]

chloe: Were not supposed to be here

father: Chloe calm down, i think it's quite obvious.

Chloe: But daddy, these people are not supposed to be here

father: It's ok sweety cakes, we'll find a way off the destiny, or should i say, our destiny.

Chloe: But dadda, i'm not supposed to be here, i forgot to set the dvr for 90210

father: Now, you have done it. You're dead

the senator grabs a gun from one of the marines and goes crazy shooting everybody, and chases chloe around the ship like a mainac trying to kill her.

This is the episode justice. Lollulz. You iz funnie!

[PG15]

Update:


PG15 writes: “1. What is episode 10 of SGU now?

[...]

3. Has the episode “Justice” been renamed “Judgment” like you wanted, or was that just a typo? [...]"

Answers: 1. Episode 10 is now Justice.

[...]

3. No, it’s always been Justice. Though, in retrospect, I think Judgment is more appropriate.

[...]



http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2009/04/29/april-29-2009-simul-posting-stargate-and-the-syfy-slant/

[Pandora's_Box]

That's rather an interesting distinction.

[jenks]

Sounds better. Justice makes it sound as though whatever judgement is made is the right one, where as judgement alone leaves it more grey.

[Pandora's_Box]

Sounds better. Justice makes it sound as though whatever judgement is made is the right one, where as judgement alone leaves it more grey.

Unless the point is to illustrate the contradiction. That could be cool too.

[Platschu]

If Justice became 1x10, than what will be the 9th episode? Will they extend an earlier episode into a two parter?

[Jumper_One]

Platschu writes: “1. Can you tell us the name of the 9th episode, if “Justice” became the 10th episode? [...]

Answers: [...] Answers: 1. Sure. Life.
http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?p=10117035&posted=1#post10117035

[PG15]

Small update:


Well, in addition to the gift-getting, I did manage to squeeze in some Stargate-related work. Read Paul’s first draft of Divided (loved the Eli-Rush head-to-head) and Brad’s pass on Justice (He dedicated the opening scene to me since, as Paul pointed out, it’s something would do. I’m touched.),

http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2009/05/11/may-11-2009-just-between-us-its-really-better-to-receive-than-to-give/

[PG15]

Update:


So, today in broad strokes:

[...]

Prepping Justice = Brad Wright producing/Will Waring directing.


http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2009/05/20/may-20-2009-gottamakethisfast/

[PG15]

Update:


The quiet suspense of today’s shipboard mystery was in marked contrast to the gloomy, dank, heavy ordnance-laced mayhem of the preceding days. [...] Now, we shift focus from the dark and dangerous alien environment of Time to the shocking discovery and troubling developments presented in Justice. Will Waring is doing the honors here, directing an episode that promises more than a few surprises in addition to decisions both startling and unsettling that will have far-reaching consequences for the Destiny crew.

Rob will be doing the pass on my script, Space (episode 11), this weekend and informed me of a few character additions he wants to make off the top (which tie in directly to Justice), [...]


http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2009/05/29/april-29-2009-shifting-from-dark-and-dangerous-to-moody-and-mysterious-i-weigh-in-on-the-big-news-item-and-some-mailbag/

[PG15]

Small update:


Director Will Waring continues to shoot episode 9, Justice this week.




http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2009/05/31/may-30-2009-hey-what-year-is-it/

[PG15]

A mention:


Director Will Waring and co. were away shooting on location.

And a pic of Will Waring on the set (http://josephmallozzi.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/img_18001.jpg).

From: http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2009/06/09/june-9-2009-ashleighs-feeling-punchy-paul-mcgillion-wants-your-questions-msol-charity-auction-elric-discussion-and-the-mailbag/

[PG15]

And the twitter invasion continues!


Hot day & I'm wrapped for Justice. Space is next. Had a 'Holy ****' moment when I considered what we were filming. You're going to love it.

http://twitter.com/PatrickGilmore/status/2099760746

[PG15]

A pic from the set of this episode:

http://josephmallozzi.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/img_1545x.jpg

From: http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2009/07/30/july-30-2009-sukoshi-hanesamasu-demo-zenzen-wakarimasen-enter-the-caption-this-contest-to-win-uh-something-cool-episode-20-somewhere-between-longish-and-outrageously-so-the-sgu-crew/

[PG15]

Wow, nobody's posted in this thread in more than 2 months.

But no more!


hehehe watching ep 9... You guys are gonna LOVE it:) This is fun!

http://twitter.com/alainahuffman/status/4691149583


@alanmccullough Thanks Alan. BTW, we just watched the Day 1 of Justice. Awesome.

http://twitter.com/cpbinder/status/4564381858

[Jper]

http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2009/11/05/november-5-2009-looking-ahead-to-the-stretch-run/


Justice: After a heinous crime is committed aboard Destiny, the crew struggles with the concepts of crime and punshiment as they apply to an isolated, shipboard community billions of light years from home. The ladies step up, a terrible loss impacts all, and one of those Holy $&#@! moments guarantees a sleepless night for some – including a lot of people watching at home.

[Spimman]

This episode sounds pretty cool.You think that guy that Greer knocked out that one time and got caught stealing food the other time will be the one to commit the crime?

[Kick-Kinsey]

That can be interperted a variety of ways.

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p260/Wrobbe/LoL%20Cats/pirate_cat.jpg

[MattSilver 3k]

Gateworld has a nice spoiler-y premise of the episode:
http://www.gateworld.net/news/2009/11/new-details-on-sgus-mid-season-finale/

I wonder what redshirt got capped... or maybe it was someone familiar? Dun dun dun! Looks like we have a new planet, Camille stepping forward, Rush finding some stuff... Sounds like a nice way to cap off the year's SGU.

[SGFerrit]

So hopefully Wray will have a big role in 1x09 and 1x10. I'm looking forward to that :)

[Madwelshboy]

Stargate Universe - Episode 1.10 - Justice - Promo

http://www.spoilertv.com/2009/11/stargate-universe-episode-110-justice.html

Stargate Universe - Episode 1.10 - Justice - Sneak Peak

http://www.spoilertv.com/2009/11/stargate-universe-episode-110-justice_21.html


Stargate Universe - Episode 1.10 - Justice - Various Synopses

TV Guide:-
"Col. Young cedes command to Camile Wray after a crew member is found dead from a gunshot wound and the gun is recovered from Young's quarters. Meanwhile, a planet harbors a secret that threatens the Destiny in the first-season finale."

Sky1:-
"Shockwaves ripple when a member of the crew is killed, and Colonel Young finds himself in the frame. Meanwhile, Rush gains access to the Ancient interface."

http://www.spoilertv.com/2009/11/stargate-universe-episode-110-justice_7559.html

[The Mighty 6 platoon]

Well that sneak peak was damn funny. Also looks like they might be going offworld, one of the shots from the trailer is someone ermering from the Stargate. Also pretty much a given at this point that Spencer is going to snuff it, he is mentioned as not on duty in the sneak peak and in the trailer there is ashot of a dead bald man, so unless tptb pull a fast one on us, Spencer's odds do not look good.

[Lt.Colonel John Sheppard]

the dude who emerged from off-world will probably be Colonel Young.

[major davis]

Haha love the promo.

[jelgate]

Greer was awesome in that promo

[Carter1994]

Loved the promo... :D

In regards to whom was killed,
This sure looks like Spencer... http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm257/Carter1994/Spencer.jpg

[The Mighty 6 platoon]

Loved the promo... :D

In regards to whom was killed,
This sure looks like Spencer... http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm257/Carter1994/Spencer.jpg

What other person on the ship could it be, no one else is bald.

[ManofTheAtom]

Unless Spencer is the victim, I suspect that in Justice he will be the killer that frames Young and, as punishment for his crime, they will make him sit on the repository of knowledge chair that they found in "Life".

[jelgate]

Their is a Justice Pre-Airing/Speculation thread;)

[ManofTheAtom]

Unless Spencer is the victim, I suspect that in Justice he will be the killer that frames Young and, as punishment for his crime, they will make him sit on the repository of knowledge chair that they found in "Life".

IF Spencer is the victim, whoever the killer is will probably be made to sit on the chair.

[Commander Zelix]

Let's hope they don't try to solve Spencer murder we know he offed himself. No murderer on the Destiny. Another cop out. :)

[MattSilver 3k]

Let's hope they don't try to solve Spencer murder we know he offed himself. No murderer on the Destiny. Another cop out. :)

Wouldn't be bad if someone was getting framed.

[ManofTheAtom]

Wouldn't be bad if someone was getting framed.

Would Telford murder Spencer to frame Young?

[Jper]

Would Telford murder Spencer to frame Young?

I wouldn't put it past him.

P.S. Why are you guys using spoiler tags? :confused:

[ManofTheAtom]

I wouldn't put it past him.

P.S. Why are you guys using spoiler tags? :confused:

It is the 10th episode, the mid point, so maybe Telford will kill Spencer while using Young's body and that will be it for the character.

He'll go the way of Makepeace.

[MattSilver 3k]

I wouldn't put it past him.

P.S. Why are you guys using spoiler tags? :confused:

*shrugs* I don't know. I was just following the crowd... But a character death and the entire episode's basic plot being dissected and discussed could be spoiler-ly enough to warrant tags.

Then again, the thread title warns of spoilers...

To hell with it, everyone! I know that in the next episode... someone will be revealed as...

As...

Pregnant! :P

Or...

Dying From A Terminal Disease!

Or better yet...

They Have Amnesia!

[Jper]

And who would be pregnant? Chloe, Park, TJ, James or .... Camille? :D

[MattSilver 3k]

And who would be pregnant? Chloe, Park, TJ, James or .... Camille? :D

It's like Russian Roulette - you never know until somebody's been shot!

[Carter1994]

http://www.narniaweb.com/forum/images/smilies/13.gif

Not sure how this didn't find its way onto this thread... but,
(spoilers, because this could be quite... spoiler-y)

Rush’s nemesis on board the ship, the actor reveals, is Colonel Everett Young (Louis Ferreira, formerly Justin Louis). “It’s quite serious,” Carlyle said. “Without giving too much away, there’s an episode, which we’ve yet to shoot, where a tragedy takes place aboard the Destiny, and Rush tries to frame Young.

Certainly sounds like it fits. :eek:

[Jper]

Yeah, but I would still be careful about that. This season of SGU has already proven on multiple occasions how misleading/wrong/deceiving/etc. speculation/spoilers/promos/interviews/etc. might be. At least until we actually get to see it on the big screen. :)

[major davis]

Actually they filmed Justice in May and this interview happened in July right before comic con.

I think he is talking about sabotage.

[Carter1994]

Yep, take everything with a grain of salt...


Oh, but I do love salt... :D

[EllieVee]

No matter what happens, I'm pretty sure Rush will get the blame for something whether he actually does anything or not.

[SupremeLegate]

Here is what I think happens;


From the spoilers that Rush tries to frame Young for the tragedy in "Justice" and the suicide that was mentioned earlier; I think that Spencer shoots himself, Rush finds him and takes the gun, Rush then tires to frame Young.


I think this will lead to what happens in "Divided"

[g.o.d]

are there any promo pics?

[Madwelshboy]

Stargate Universe - Episode 1.10 - Justice - Press Release


Everyone is shocked when a member of the crew is found dead from a gunshot wound. While at first glance it appears to be suicide, the gun is nowhere to be found. The crew is confined to quarters while a search is performed and when the gun shows up in Col. Young’s (LOUIS FERREIRA) quarters, he becomes the number one suspect. Fearing a mob scene, Young agrees to a trial and cedes command to Camile Wray (MING-NA).

Dr. Rush (ROBERT CARLYLE) convinces Wray to give him control of the science team and carte blanche with the new Ancient interface, previously kept under guard. But before Rush can unlock its secret, or Young’s trial can conclude, both are needed to explore a planet hiding a secret that threatens the Destiny and her crew.

http://www.spoilertv.com/2009/11/stargate-universe-episode-110-justice_26.html

[Madwelshboy]

are there any promo pics?

Promo pics have normally been coming out about a week before the episode airs. (I can normally find them on the MGM site on a Sat morning)

[TENTHIUS]

I think, there will be
that "Water aliens" on the planet. They will capture Rush and get him to the tank.

[dacooker]

"We've found something" that peaks the most interest from me. It is said as a team approaches a object on a rocking planet.
From what I gather it's a Cylon raider, leading to the discovery of human type cylons on Destiny. One being a Six, who kills the bald headed guy who is always crazy angry.

[MattSilver 3k]

"We've found something" that peaks the most interest from me. It is said as a team approaches a object on a rocking planet.
From what I gather it's a Cylon raider, leading to the discovery of human type cylons on Destiny. One being a Six, who kills the bald headed guy who is always crazy angry.

:lol:

Oh, you trolls totally crack me up!

No wait, you're not a troll at all. You're being completely serious! WOAH!

That just makes it funnier.

[The Swarm]

Just curious....why does that planet pose a threat to the ship?

[aretood2]

Just curious....why does that planet pose a threat to the ship?
Because it is secretly a death star...no? Yeah I thought it was too much. But it could house our "Space" aliens...

[Arwis]

I assume this will be best episode so far with the least amount of crap. I really do hope it's going to be one of those rare episodes where in order to keep my interests forwarding will not be necessary.

[Commander Zelix]

I assume this will be best episode so far with the least amount of crap. I really do hope it's going to be one of those rare episodes where in order to keep my interests forwarding will not be necessary.
The episode does seem like a good one. There's the trial part and also the mysterious discovery on the planet.

[Arwis]

The episode does seem like a good one. There's the trial part and also the mysterious discovery on the planet.

Sucide/kill? Rush with chair, planet.... There's enough potential action! I really hope they'll use it to fill whole episode.

[DavidR]

Sucide/kill? Rush with chair, planet.... There's enough potential action! I really hope they'll use it to fill whole episode.

Brian did say, give it time....

[The Swarm]

God i do hope its the alien's from "Space"!!!
Its about time we got a real arch-enemy in this galaxy besides the Fail Alliance.

[major davis]

God i do hope its the alien's from "Space"!!!
Its about time we got a real arch-enemy in this galaxy besides the Fail Alliance.

Yeah I seriously doubt a swarm of dust are going

to put Rush in a water tank. Also I think these are the aliens from the pod at the end of air part 3.

[TENTHIUS]

Oh, I didn´t mean
Water aliens from Air and Water. I´ve just supposed, that if they put Rush to the tank, they would be some water aliens...Of course, I can be wrong...
we´ll see....

[SGFerrit]

The episode does seem like a good one. There's the trial part and also the mysterious discovery on the planet.

Sounds good to me, considering SGA managed to stretch 'Sheppard get's a bug on his neck' into a good 42 minute episode :)

[major davis]

Oh, I didn´t mean
Water aliens from Air and Water. I´ve just supposed, that if they put Rush to the tank, they would be some water aliens...Of course, I can be wrong...
we´ll see....

Well given the fact that ive read a few spoilers from this episode(i got to see a call sheet from this ep)

I dont think that they live in water but I could be wrong. Like you said, well see in a couple months

MONTHS... MONTHS... poop. How will I survive.

[EvilSpaceAlien]

Well given the fact that ive read a few spoilers from this episode(i got to see a call sheet from this ep)

I dont think that they live in water but I could be wrong. Like you said, well see in a couple months

MONTHS... MONTHS... poop. How will I survive.

Well I'd be considering suicide if it wasn't for Chuck's third season premiere on January 10. :p

[major davis]

Well I'd be considering suicide if it wasn't for Chuck's third season premiere on January 10. :p

JAUARY THENTH!!!

Ya man. Didn't know that. Thanks!!

Chuck, 24, and stargate are my fav shows. I wouldn't be able to live if it wasnt for them and God. ;)

[Briangate78]

JAUARY THENTH!!!

Ya man. Didn't know that. Thanks!!

Chuck, 24, and stargate are my fav shows. I wouldn't be able to live if it wasnt for them and God. ;)

Cannot wait for 24!!! Supposed to be the last season also. I have no interest in Caprica sadly.

[DCK]

is the episode on for tonight?

[EvilSpaceAlien]

is the episode on for tonight?

No it's not on tonight. It airs next week.

[EvilSpaceAlien]

JAUARY THENTH!!!

Ya man. Didn't know that. Thanks!!

Chuck, 24, and stargate are my fav shows. I wouldn't be able to live if it wasnt for them and God. ;)

Yeah. We got a pretty sweet deal with Chuck's two hour season premier airing on sunday January 10th, and then the following epsode airs the next day in it's premanent time slot.

Chuck season 3 preview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G374vAIuSlY)

[Phenom]

So is this the start of the weird mid season break thing?? How long before SGU is back on??

[jelgate]

So is this the start of the weird mid season break thing?? How long before SGU is back on??

When Brian quits wishing for Chloe to be airlocked.:P


April

[PG15]

So is this the start of the weird mid season break thing?? How long before SGU is back on??

Next week! ;)

[The Swarm]

When Brian quits wishing for Chloe to be airlocked.:P


April
Darn it, ITS ALL CHLOE's FAULT!!!!!

[ckwongau]

I find this spoiler on Io9.com
Stargate Universe:

A press release is out with more details of "Justice", the tenth and final episode of this half of the show's first season:

Everyone is shocked when a member of the crew is found dead from a gunshot wound. While at first glance it appears to be suicide, the gun is nowhere to be found. The crew is confined to quarters while a search is performed and when the gun shows up in Col. Young's (LOUIS FERREIRA) quarters, he becomes the number one suspect. Fearing a mob scene, Young agrees to a trial and cedes command to Camile Wray (MING-NA).

Dr. Rush (ROBERT CARLYLE) convinces Wray to give him control of the science team and carte blanche with the new Ancient interface, previously kept under guard. But before Rush can unlock its secret, or Young's trial can conclude, both are needed to explore a planet hiding a secret that threatens the Destiny and her crew.


I have a wild wild theory ,about Rush
I Love Dr Rush , but i think
Rush is the one responsible in some way to the situation. I think the crew got kill is Spencer , i think he kill himself.Then Dr Rush saw an opportunity.He put the gun in Col Young's room to force him to cedes command to Camile Wray . Then convince Wray to let him use the Ancient Chair .

[The Swarm]

I wouldnt put it beyond Rush nor Wray to frame Young...what worry's me:
They may get voted of the ship or worse.

Meanwhile Park resumes her reading session with
Just kidding

[TENTHIUS]

Finally, there are 28 pictures from this episode.
http://stargate.mgm.com/view/content/1852/index.html
But there is no mention about
planet, that is hiding the secret...maybe is it all CGI.

[SGFerrit]

I think Franklin is going to end up in the chair. If you watch the second comic con trailer, at the beggining you can see someone with a rolled up sleeve and a watch getting strapped into the chair, and he seems to be wearing that in those pictures:

http://www.gateworld.net/gallery/albums/uni_season1/ComicCon-Trailer2/normal_comiccon_trailer2_006.jpg

[MattSilver 3k]

I think Franklin is going to end up in the chair. If you watch the second comic con trailer, at the beggining you can see someone with a rolled up sleeve and a watch getting strapped into the chair, and he seems to be wearing that in those pictures:

http://www.gateworld.net/gallery/albums/uni_season1/ComicCon-Trailer2/normal_comiccon_trailer2_006.jpg

Very nice catch.

Hope it kills him! :P

[major davis]

Dang!!! Thank you!!! I was wondering if the photos would ever come out. :)

[The Swarm]

Very nice catch.

Hope it kills him! :P

I hope it does, one less cry baby to worry about.

:replicatoranime01:

[Naonak]

I love how blasé Rush looks in this pic (http://stargate.mgm.com/assets//Still/1259179421/11571/FullSize-sgu0110-0128xe.jpg). :D

[The Mighty 6 platoon]

I love how blasé Rush looks in this pic (http://stargate.mgm.com/assets//Still/1259179421/11571/FullSize-sgu0110-0128xe.jpg). :D

“Me do anything wrong? whiter than white guv’nor”

[SupremeLegate]

Looks like Chloe gets to do something this episode;


http://stargate.mgm.com/assets//Still/1259179401/11566/large-FullSize-sgu0110-0078xe.jpg

[jelgate]

Being a political science graduate it would make sense that Chloe has some knowledge about basic law

[Arwis]

Being a political science graduate it would make sense that Chloe has some knowledge about basic law

I really hope they won't bring trial thing. That would ruin whole episode....

EDIT: missed the picture, it seems there will be trial thing after all. This changed my mind about upcoming episode completely. I really had good expectations for episode but now it probably just going to suck....

I'm already tired of things that doesn't make sense in show and still they put them. I mean there is nothing to run anyway and if they need to prove young's innocence good investigation is enough. Trial won't change anything anyway.... so really wtf???

[Carter1994]

Well, considering how many people we saw in what appears to be the witness stand, I don't see how they could not have the trial.

[Arwis]

Well, considering how many people we saw in what appears to be the witness stand, I don't see how they could not have the trial.

Look from theirs point of view stranded in a ship and give me a reason which would sense to have trial. In the situation like they are in trial looks like complete absurd.

[SupremeLegate]

Look from theirs point of view stranded in a ship and give me a reason which would sense to have trial. In the situation like they are in trial looks like complete absurd.

What would you have them do?

They are stranded billions of light years from home, one of them has been killed, and it looks like the man leading them is responsible.

What would you have them do?

Forgive and forget?
Toss him out the air lock?

What they are doing is what any civilized society would do, they investigate, they bring the accused to trial.

They are on their own, despite what Earth might think they have to figure out their own way of doing things.

[jelgate]

I like the idea of a trial. Not all Stargate trial episodes have being terrible like Inquistion. I quite like Pretense from SG1.

Anyone from a story perspective it makes sense. If you are going to have some kind of society you need a balance of law and punishment for law breakers. So if played right it could be an interesting episode. Since it looks like Chloe and Wray will be different sides of the counsel (ie prosecution and defense) I would like to see how these two battle one another

[Arwis]

I'm not saying he should be forgiven as nothing happened I'm saying that trial is so impractical thing in the situation of theirs. I'm not even talking about fairness of the trial, who the jugde will be? Rush? Scott?

[jelgate]

I'm not saying he should be forgiven as nothing happened I'm saying that trial is so impractical thing in the situation of theirs. I'm not even talking about fairness of the trial, who the jugde will be? Rush? Scott?

Dr. Volkner. I'm sure some may have have a grudge against Young but not all 88 people are petty and against him.

[SupremeLegate]

Well from the promo pics it does not look like there is a judge. It looks like Camile and Chloe are the prosecution and defense, I would say Camile is prosecution and Chloe is defense, and the others in the room maybe the jury.

Course since it looks like Camile and Chloe are asking the questions it might be that they are the judges, like a tribunal.

I think the second option makes the most since, given the evidance.

[Rhoswen]

I wonder what they can do in terms of collecting evidence (fingerprints, ballistics, recreating the crime, etc.)? It seems pretty rushed for a trial to be happening so soon. I'm not sure how I'd feel if I was on a jury out there on the Destiny, trying to determine someone's guilt/innocence without all the high-tech CSI-type investigation methods that we have available to us today, I mean, unless I actually saw someone committing a crime with my own eyes.

[Arwis]

Dr. Volkner. I'm sure some may have have a grudge against Young but not all 88 people are petty and against him.

Judge/tribunal should be neutral in the first place. I doubt that any of the people on board could be considered as that because he's was their leader and all of them have feelings for him. Secondly trials are based on evidence and law interpretation for the given situation. About what kind of law we are talking in Destiny? Civil law? Military law? I really doubt there's law expert that could easily interpret all of that.

Most fail thing is Chloe will be as a lawyer. I'm a marketing management student and I had business law for whole year and I have pretty clear view how well she knows law(because it's not the main study subject). I can assure you her law knowledge is very limited. Which makes situation look really pathetic. Even if she had(ofc she had) law courses during her political studies it was international law, human rights law, some parts of civilian law.

[jelgate]

Judge/tribunal should be neutral in the first place. I doubt that any of the people on board could be considered as that because he's was their leader and all of them have feelings for him. Secondly trials are based on evidence and law interpretation for the given situation. About what kind of law we are talking in Destiny? Civil law? Military law? I really doubt there's law expert that could easily interpret all of that.

Most fail thing is Chloe will be as a lawyer. I'm a marketing management student and I had business law for whole year and I have pretty clear view how well she knows law(because it's not the main study subject). I can assure you her law knowledge is very limited. Which makes situation look really pathetic. Even if she had(ofc she had) law courses during her political studies it was international law, human rights law, some parts of civilian law.

So is what the alternative then? We can't just let him get away with a crime or punish Col. Young without a chance to defend himself. As for the law itself no one is expect a full understanding of the complexities that come with law but still some people probably know the basics of it. Its far from ideal but their has to be some kind of legal system on the Destiny.

[Whitering]

Most of the longer term military officers would have some basic knowledge of the procedural workings of a court martial, if not the Rules (yuckie massive books on procedure).

As to the law itself? Well obviously they can't rely on precedence, which is the foundation of our common law system, but in reality, most judges worm their way to what they think is fair anyway. So who cares about if they know the law? The military guys know whether their rules have been broken and then all that's left to determine is whether it was reasonable in the circumstances I guess.

Trials are only complicated by tons of rules to reduce the likeliness of major bias playing a role in judgment.

[globex]

Reading the synposis of Justice(that being episode 10), this episode doesn't seem to be a great episode for a season break. Doesn't seem a climatic episode. It seems to be an anticlimax imho. More of a murder mystery. Shall I use the word...Cheesy?

Your thoughts?

[DigiFluid]

I don't know, I'll tell you after I've watched it.

[The Mighty 6 platoon]

Reading the synposis of Justice(that being episode 10), this episode doesn't seem to be a great episode for a season break. Doesn't seem a climatic episode. It seems to be an anticlimax imho. More of a murder mystery. Shall I use the word...Cheesy?

Your thoughts?

Seems to me that a lot of the episode has been kept under wraps until recently. I mean it was pretty obvious who was going to bite the dust in the episode. The major mystery is who dunnit, I’m sure that would be a twist. On top of that there was no mention until recently that an alien planet apparently figures heavily in the episode.

[Replicator Todd]

I don't know yet, but from the summary of the episode.....no.

[globex]

Thanks for your responses guys. But also to add to my point. Like a lot of the other shows have a break on a "high" or a climax. This just doesn't seem to be climatic episode. You know...the edge on your seat stuff.

[The Mighty 6 platoon]

Thanks for your responses guys. But also to add to my point. Like a lot of the other shows have a break on a "high" or a climax. This just doesn't seem to be climatic episode. You know...the edge on your seat stuff.

According to Joe Mallozi it ends on a shocking cliff hanger so we shall see.

[EllieVee]

Thanks for your responses guys. But also to add to my point. Like a lot of the other shows have a break on a "high" or a climax. This just doesn't seem to be climatic episode. You know...the edge on your seat stuff.

My understanding is that there's a whopping cliffhanger at the end of the episode where

Rush gets left on the planet.

[jelgate]

I won't even attempt to make that judgement until I see how it ends. Spoilers have misled me before

[EllieVee]

This is the blurb from the Foxtel site (Australia):

S1, Ep10. Justice: When one of the members aboard the Destiny turns up dead, everyone is considered a suspect. Meanwhile, an abandoned space craft is discovered on a mysterious planet after travelling through a stargate.

[Lt.Colonel John Sheppard]

i concur jelgate only 3 more days.

[SupremeLegate]

Reading the synposis of Justice(that being episode 10), this episode doesn't seem to be a great episode for a season break. Doesn't seem a climatic episode. It seems to be an anticlimax imho. More of a murder mystery. Shall I use the word...Cheesy?

Your thoughts?

Thats becuase it was not supposed to be, "Sapce" was supposed to be the mid-season break. But then they took what was "Fire" and made it "Light" and "Darkness."

[globex]

According to Joe Mallozi it ends on a shocking cliff hanger so we shall see.

I have now started to take Joseph M, words as a grain of salt. But shocking may mean some boring drama bullocks.

[globex]

Thats becuase it was not supposed to be, "Sapce" was supposed to be the mid-season break. But then they took what was "Fire" and made it "Light" and "Darkness."

I hope space is a good episode.

[jcainhaze]

I have now started to take Joseph M, words as a grain of salt. But shocking may mean some boring drama bullocks.

It's just company rah-rah. I can almost guarantee it will be boring drama.

[MattSilver 3k]

It's just company rah-rah. I can almost guarantee it will be boring drama.

Golly gee mister! Tell me how you can predict such futures using only your opinion of the show so far and the power of the internet! I am completely and utterly mystified I tells ya! Mystified 'cause you seem to think your opinions are solid gold and we should all worship at the altar of your great prediction skills!

How about next time you add "to me" to the end of that second sentence, 'cause you seem to be toting your opinion as doctrine for everyone to follow. Cheers.

[EllieVee]

Well, finally watched the preview on the end of Life as shown on Foxtel here in Oz,which is different to the one floating around the net, and I'm betting that the end will be

post Young punching out Rush on the planet, Rush waking up to find himself stranded there. The question for me is whether the rest of those on Destiny are in on it or whether Young takes it upon himself to leave Rush behind.

[jcainhaze]

Golly gee mister! Tell me how you can predict such futures using only your opinion of the show so far and the power of the internet! I am completely and utterly mystified I tells ya! Mystified 'cause you seem to think your opinions are solid gold and we should all worship at the altar of your great prediction skills!

How about next time you add "to me" to the end of that second sentence, 'cause you seem to be toting your opinion as doctrine for everyone to follow. Cheers.

Is it really necessary to add "to me" when stating my own opinion? And next time you address me make sure to ask permission before approaching the alter of my highness of all highs. You're right I got mad skillz. I'm like whatshisface that predicted all that stuff and like 99% of it was wrong. Nostrodaumes is his name. I'm slightly better than he but not as crazy. Anyway back to what I was saying, there is a 1% chance it will be boring. So consider it a lock to be a snoozer:P

[The Mighty 6 platoon]

I have now started to take Joseph M, words as a grain of salt. But shocking may mean some boring drama bullocks.

Boring drama bullocks. But they are full of drama, just look at him
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/08/18/article-0-0266EA11000004B0-839_468x426.jpg Oscar worthy I say.

[MattSilver 3k]

Boring drama bullocks. But they are full of drama, just look at him
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/08/18/article-0-0266EA11000004B0-839_468x426.jpg Oscar worthy I say.

Damnit. Can't green you! :D

[The Mighty 6 platoon]

Damnit. Can't green you! :D

Have some green for trying, I’m feeling generous. Now you owe me double the green :D

On the topic of SGU maybe the drama bullocks are the new enemy? Look at his shifty eyes!

[Madwelshboy]

DS: You hinted at a second season on your blog. Have you heard anything official?
David Blue: "No, but I really want to know! I'm just like the fans. I don't want to spoil it, but the midseason finale will definitely keep you on the edge of your seat - you may even be angry! And also, where we leave things at the end of the season, I want to see how things get resolved. I'm hopeful, but I've been on series in the past where it seems like a second season is a go-ahead and then it gets cancelled. I won't expect anything until it happens!"

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/cult/interviews/a188272/david-blue-stargate-universe.html

[jelgate]

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/cult/interviews/a188272/david-blue-stargate-universe.html

I'll get the torches. Who is ready for a mob scene?

[Pharaoh Atem]

lol @ the sweet potato :)

[Jper]

Damnit. Can't green you! :D

But I can! :D

[The Swarm]

Oh God i do hope the aliens from space will become the main enemy in this series...way better than the Fail Alliance.

[SGFerrit]

Oh God i do hope the aliens from space will become the main enemy in this series...way better than the Fail Alliance.

Why do keep posting that? The whole 'fail alliance' thing?

We don't know how their story is going to be handled in SGU. They we're very underused and poorly developed in SG1, they could be much better here. Especially considering who is playing their leader. Wait and see. Posting 'fail alliance' is NOT going to make Brad and Rob go back and re-shoot the scenes, so I really don't see the joy.

[MattSilver 3k]

Oh God i do hope the aliens from space will become the main enemy in this series...way better than the Fail Alliance.

Sorry to disappoint, but there'll probably be no 'main' enemy. Just a bunch of reccurrers that'll change with the Destiny's flight path, most likely.

So the "Fail Alliance" may just be a small arc to tie up the whole start of the series - who attacked Icarus Base, why, and how did they find it? No reason to fret, old chap.

[Jper]

"Fail Alliance"? What's that? What are you talking about? I don't know anything like that. *Ignores post* :p :D *Feel free to ignore me in return, but I don't know how you want to be taken serious if you're using something like that.* Just saying. Will shut up now.

[LtColCarter]

http://www.narniaweb.com/forum/images/smilies/13.gif

Not sure how this didn't find its way onto this thread... but,
(spoilers, because this could be quite... spoiler-y)


Certainly sounds like it fits. :eek:

You're right...it does seem to fit. Now we'll just have to see on Friday if it does fit. ;)

[EllieVee]

"Fail Alliance"? What's that? What are you talking about? I don't know anything like that. *Ignores post* :p :D *Feel free to ignore me in return, but I don't know how you want to be taken serious if you're using something like that.* Just saying. Will shut up now.

Please don't shut up because I agree with all of it.

[AdamTM]

I'm sorry, but "Fail Alliance" was way funny XD

[timebandit]

i have no idea why Lucian alliance wants to go through 'the 9th gate' - heh - like, other than the fact they muscle their way around the universe like Goa'uld and take stuff [minus a bit of the god complexes]. What would be cool is, if it were somehow tied to an older SG-1 or SG-A thing - I'm unashamed and think it cool to link it all together, course has to be believable not an easy thing.

I hope the murder - or suicide - isn't an assisted suicide via that chair, via Rush convincing the guy to do it. It could also be a totally different kind of chair ... ?

[aretood2]

I'm sorry, but "Fail Alliance" was way funny XD

You mean the Alliance of the System lords?

[The Swarm]

You mean the Alliance of the System lords?

I meant the Lucian Losers...er...Alliance that were totaly cliche and harmless somehow becomeing a great threat?

How is that different from the Wormhole drive as a plot device?

I think they ran out of enemy's in the MW galaxy...

[The Mighty 6 platoon]

You mean the Alliance of the System lords?

Well they certainly screwed up badly, possibly gunning for universes most incompetent villains after the Emperor in Star Wars.

[Commander Zelix]

http://video.syfy.com/shows/universe/promos_trailers_4/justice--stargate-universe/v1177631

The sweet potatoes scene from Justice is very funny. Greer is so cool. "It will keep us A-live". :D Poor Spencer :(

[Commander Zelix]

I think they ran out of enemy's in the MW galaxy...
Why use enemy from the MW when they got a whole new galaxy to explore? Anyway, lets see how it goes.

[LtColCarter]

Why use enemy from the MW when they got a whole new galaxy to explore? Anyway, lets see how it goes.

I concur! Lets see new enemies!

[Carter1994]

I concur! Lets see new enemies!
If I'm reading the spoilers correctly... tomorrow's episode just might grant your wish. Mwahahaha! :D

[Briangate78]

I concur! Lets see new enemies!

I'd be happy to see "AN" enemy at this point, lol.

[Captain Obvious]

http://video.syfy.com/shows/universe/promos_trailers_4/justice--stargate-universe/v1177631

The sweet potatoes scene from Justice is very funny. Greer is so cool. "It will keep us A-live". :D Poor Spencer :(

" mash it, fry it or bake it, serve it up!" " Yes Sir!"

[Pharaoh Atem]

http://video.syfy.com/shows/universe/promos_trailers_4/justice--stargate-universe/v1177631

The sweet potatoes scene from Justice is very funny. Greer is so cool. "It will keep us A-live". :D Poor Spencer :(

loved that scene

[g.o.d]

I don't think we'll see an alien(s) in this episode. I believe we'll have to wait 4(?) months

[The Swarm]

What if this new alien species spans across 2-3 galaxy's...that way we can have an arch-enemy in this series.

[EllieVee]

Well, I'm betting the last scene will be Rush waking up having been king hit by Young and finding himself alone on the planet or meeting the aliens.

[MattSilver 3k]

Well, I'm betting the last scene will be Rush waking up having been king hit by Young and finding himself alone on the planet or meeting the aliens.

Sounds like a good ending to be resolved in a few months.

[The Mighty 6 platoon]

I'm so excited for this episdoe, I can hardly wait. I feel like them
http://www.motifake.com/demotivational-poster/0903/anticipation-demotivational-poster-1237059720.jpg

[LtColCarter]

I'm so excited for this episdoe, I can hardly wait. I feel like them
http://www.motifake.com/demotivational-poster/0903/anticipation-demotivational-poster-1237059720.jpg

Hmmmm....interesting picture... *bites tongue*

[The Mighty 6 platoon]

Hmmmm....interesting picture... *bites tongue*

I think it conveys my anticipation for this episode quite well. :D

[aretood2]

It's on tonight, right? But should I find out who killed Spencer or who killed Trudy? Or should I watch the latest installment of Clone wars?

If I do watch Justice, it better be worth it.

[Commander Zelix]

Here's some pictures of the trial in the episode (from daemonstv). Rush facing questions, that ought to be fun. Even Chloe found herself some usefulness by becoming a judge.


http://media.daemonstv.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/STARGATE-UNIVERSE-Justice-7.JPG

http://media.daemonstv.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/STARGATE-UNIVERSE-Justice.JPG

http://media.daemonstv.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/STARGATE-UNIVERSE-Justice-6.JPG

[Carter1994]

The Clone Wars is on at 8:00, Justice is at 9:00... watch either at your own risk. :P


I'd be happy to see "AN" enemy at this point, lol.
Let's be more specific! :D

"[We]'d be happy to see "AN" [intelligent alien] enemy [that's a new race] at this point."

[Briangate78]

Looks like Chloe is going to become the Lee Adama of the Destiny. :p

[jelgate]

Looks like Chloe is going to become the Lee Adama of the Destiny. :p

When was Chloe a US military officer?:P

[Briangate78]

When was Chloe a US military officer?:P

LOL, I am talking about the trial with Baltar. :p Hey, this might be really good for her character.

[jelgate]

LOL, I am talking about the trial with Baltar. :p Hey, this might be really good for her character.

I know but SGU/BSG comparassions are laughable to me

[Carter1994]

http://media.daemonstv.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/STARGATE-UNIVERSE-Justice.JPG

Lovin' the Kino on the corner of the desk... We see all!

(Oh, the irony. Trials on earth can't even have Kodak cameras, yet the Destiny gets to use an awesome alien video camera? I'm officially jealous... :rolleyes:)

[Briangate78]

I know but SGU/BSG comparassions are laughable to me

So are comparing SGA's and SGU's ratings, lol. :p Anyway I have very high hopes for tonight's episode. I just hope it gives us something to really chat about in the coming months while we wait for the 2nd half. :) LOL, just realized we may have to only wait a few weeks for the outcomel. :S

[aretood2]

The Clone Wars is on at 8:00, Justice is at 9:00... watch either at your own risk. :P


Let's be more specific! :D

"[We]'d be happy to see "AN" [intelligent alien] enemy [that's a new race] at this point."
well some one is out on a correction spree :P

[Carter1994]

I work as a part-time editor, what can I say? :D

Less than 8 hours 'til I watch the premier!


My understanding is that there's a whopping cliffhanger at the end of the episode where

Rush gets left on the planet.

Oh, I hope not. I just really, really, hope not. I'd much rather have this:

Rush & Young are in the middle of a shouting fest in the gateroom, when suddenly alarms go off. The argument is forgotten; they both turn to Eli. Young asks Eli what's going on. Eli looks up from the control panel in shock.

Cut to wide shot of Destiny--an alien ship drops out of hyperspace/FTL and takes a geosynchronous orbit around the planet.

To Be Continued...

BWAHAHAH! :D

[SupremeLegate]

It's on tonight, right? But should I find out who killed Spencer or who killed Trudy? Or should I watch the latest installment of Clone wars?

If I do watch Justice, it better be worth it.

Guess there is one advantage to having to wait until after mid-night to watch SGU, I can find out who killed both.

[jelgate]

That was too clean for a head shot

[Specter177]

That was the entry wound. If you notice, they didn't show the exit side of his head.

[prion]

That was the entry wound. If you notice, they didn't show the exit side of his head.

depends on the caliber. Entrance wound is normally smaller while exit wound can be pretty big,depending on caliber.

Part of me still thinks it's suicide cuz I've seen this kind of plot before.

[Specter177]

It's a 9mm.

[Specter177]

Dun dun dun!

[jelgate]

depends on the caliber. Entrance wound is normally smaller while exit wound can be pretty big,depending on caliber.

Part of me still thinks it's suicide cuz I've seen this kind of plot before.

I tend to agree and I think Rush planted the evidence to undermine Young

[nx01a]

Liking the episode so far! Thank goodness I avoid spoilers! It's twisting in ways I didn't expect.
The chubby shot scientist is also a suspect, not to mention nervous twitch scientist. :D

[Specter177]

Could they swab it for fingerprints?

[Specter177]

Chloe must be his defense.

[nx01a]

Chloe!!! YAY!

[nx01a]

Volker did it!

[prion]

I tend to agree and I think Rush planted the evidence to undermine Young

I figure spencer killed himself, someone found the body and thought, oh, this is my chance to frame young.

or he had an accomplice, who also did not care for young and framed the man.

[nx01a]

Rush should be a linguist. :)

[nx01a]

There's the Chloe I haven't seen since Air!!!

[jelgate]

I don't know what "attorney" to side with:P

[nx01a]

I must admit, I saw Wray's ascent [ahem] to power coming, but not via this route.
She IS the HR manager, trained to deploy people based on their strengths and without any necessary loyalty to the scientists or the military, a la Weir. Still... 29 minutes to go. :D

[Specter177]

If they did find him guilty, what were they going to do, throw him out the airlock?

[retiredat44]

:(
I am trying to watch this episode now... the Tiling Sci-Fi, Time Warner Channel is very Bad!

disgusting..

even with a 46" LCD HDTV.. they are ruining the show!

[Skydiver]

so, it was a scheme by rush to get access to the chair, won't it be hysterical if, in accessing the chair, they find the proof that spencer shot himself and rush just planted the gun?

[LtColCarter]

so, it was a scheme by rush to get access to the chair, won't it be hysterical if, in accessing the chair, they find the proof that spencer shot himself and rush just planted the gun?

That'd be quite interesting

[Specter177]

We still don't know that Rush planted it, irrevocably.

[Specter177]

He's gonna try it.

[LtColCarter]

It was just a speculation

[jelgate]

We still don't know that Rush planted it, irrevocably.

Of course not. But it fits his mind set.

[prion]

He's gonna try it.

oh yeah, you could see that coming a mile away ;)

wait, wait, he found spencer dead, decided to frame young knowing it would push the military out of command and the civvies in control, thus letting them access the chair,a nd then try it out!

[Lt.Colonel John Sheppard]

i always thought it was franklin to do it. cause spencer was in his face in life so maybe franklin just had enough.

[Skydiver]

they'll find evidence that spencer suicided, but never proof of who moved the gun

[prion]

i always thought it was franklin to do it. cause spencer was in his face in life so maybe franklin just had enough.

is that franklin? who tried the chair? crap, I can't recall the character's name.

[Lt.Colonel John Sheppard]

is that franklin? who tried the chair? crap, I can't recall the character's name.

Yes it was.

[Lt.Colonel John Sheppard]

wonder why destiny came outta FTL

[Lt.Colonel John Sheppard]

please greer dont do anything foolish

[Specter177]

That rules out Rush. He wouldn't be so careless.

[Lt.Colonel John Sheppard]

wonder who it was?

[Lt.Colonel John Sheppard]

oh there is something here.

[Lt.Colonel John Sheppard]

alien shuttle Cool!

[LtColCarter]

Wonder what that ship is?

[Lt.Colonel John Sheppard]

last ten minutes of the last episode of 2009 before the big 4 month hiatus

[Lt.Colonel John Sheppard]

2010 SGU better start with a big bang that's all i gotta say.

[jelgate]

That rules out Rush. He wouldn't be so careless.

If anything it makes Rush a more likely suspet since it was so cleaver.

[LtColCarter]

last ten minutes of the last episode of 2009 before the big 4 month hiatus

:( its sadness

But they advertised SGU season 1.0 DVDs on sale in January.

[Skydiver]

how many people on the ship can get into the database and delete kino footage?

i'd bet not many

[jelgate]

:( its sadness

But they advertised SGU season 1.0 DVDs on sale in January.

Feb.

[Lt.Colonel John Sheppard]

its February not January

[Lt.Colonel John Sheppard]

dang jelgate beat me to it.

[AVFan]

If anything it makes Rush a more likely suspet since it was so cleaver.

It wasn't clever. Rush is smarter than Eli. If Rush did it, he would've wiped out ALL traces, and Eli wouldn't have found anything.

[prion]

they'll find evidence that spencer suicided, but never proof of who moved the gun

probably true, although it could have been franklin, who seized the opportunity.

[arrakis44]

last ten minutes of the last episode of 2009 before the big 4 month hiatus

I'm noticing a lot of 4 month long breaks this season, with lots of network shows as well as cable, that's a long time to wait between seasons, or in this case between half a season.

None the less, really liking this episode so far, though if ends the way I think its going to I will be very disappointed.

[Lt.Colonel John Sheppard]

i knew it i knew it i knew it!

[prion]

Ha, I was right!

[Lt.Colonel John Sheppard]

uh oh Young and rush on an off-world mission together cool.

[Lt.Colonel John Sheppard]

why do i get a feeling young is going to do something.

[LtColCarter]

Oooo lawdy...and here it goes

[Lt.Colonel John Sheppard]

fight?

[Lt.Colonel John Sheppard]

liability my a$$!

[Lt.Colonel John Sheppard]

Yes!