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Ha'TakFord
January 18th, 2009, 06:10 AM
If it didnt get destroyed then where would it go?? to the daedalus?

captain simms
January 18th, 2009, 06:44 AM
yeah i think it was just the chair that was destroyed so all the writers need is build a new interface for the drone chair haha

ThirlawaY
January 18th, 2009, 06:55 AM
The zpm would have been destroyed it interfaces directly to the chair as seen in season 7's the lost city

Rise Of The Phoenix
January 18th, 2009, 07:04 AM
The ZPM gets installed in the platform in the Ancient outpost and not the chair itself so it's probably just still powering the outpost.
A Naqueda generator could provide power to just the chair itself.

Just to reply to captain simms, as far as actually recreating a chair, or means to control the Drones that may be beyond Earth's abilities at the moment, but there are a few other chairs lying around the galaxies we've explored like the city ship in The Tower, the Tria (Aurora featured in the Return), possibly one in the Asuran city ship featured in This Mortal Coil and the Asuran Aurora that was abandoned by replicator Weir/Fran and her party, so we may not need to create a new interface, but just find another chair.

I must say that the topic of the chair's destruction has been discussed in The Ancient Chair on Earth thread and here's the link:
http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?t=63073

Father Jack
January 18th, 2009, 07:24 AM
I imagine if the ZPM was destroyed then the explosion would have been significant, enough to wipe out most of Nevada at least.

More than likely the chair was destroyed by falling debris and the ZPM is just buried, to be retrieved later.

jelgate
January 18th, 2009, 07:44 AM
I imagine if the ZPM was destroyed then the explosion would have been significant, enough to wipe out most of Nevada at least.

More than likely the chair was destroyed by falling debris and the ZPM is just buried, to be retrieved later.

There is nothing that says a destroyed ZPM will cause an explosion. Now a tantied or overload ZPM is a different story.

aduk85
January 18th, 2009, 07:59 AM
I think it was just the chair that was destroyed, the zpm was in the base in antartica i think.

Hopefully it wasnt anyway lol as i bet atlantis will need it before long.

Im looking forward to the movie, but i hope that it isnt going to be released in 2010 like ive read in a few places and this year instead.

Inquisitor
January 18th, 2009, 09:44 AM
You'd think with all their technology that they'd build a shield for the chair, antarctica, SGC, etc., and that Sam Carter would have perfected arthur's mantle (merlin's cloak device) and used it to take Earth into another dimension (especially with the ZPM)

Alteran of Atlantis
January 18th, 2009, 09:51 AM
I don't think the ZPM was destroyed. It powers the outpost in Antarctica, not the chair iteself. So I'd imagine the ZPM is fine.

Anubis10545
January 18th, 2009, 10:09 AM
I agree with the comment above that the ZPM is probably just buried... At least that's what I would like to think.

aduk85
January 18th, 2009, 10:42 AM
Or why didnt they use the General hammond to beam the chair out of area 51?

Or have a shield protecting the place like mentioned above.

We'll just have to wait for the movie to find out what happens, or wait untill information leaks online.

Ha'TakFord
January 18th, 2009, 12:18 PM
They should have used the General Hammond to cover area 51 with its sheilding and then the area 51 wouldnt be destroyed

Rise Of The Phoenix
January 18th, 2009, 02:41 PM
They should have used the General Hammond to cover area 51 with its sheilding and then the area 51 wouldnt be destroyed

The Prometheus was developed in Arizona and I don't think the location of the 304's construction facility is any different.
If the Hammond was still being built then wouldn't it be in Arizona and not Nevada?

Earth should have just built a shield generator or a set of emitters for the base(s) as was mentioned above, powered them off of a few Naqueda generators and add in some rail guns to take out aerial attacks from fighters like the Darts.
They could have even built some ground based energy weapon and protected them under the shields.

It's inexcusable that Humans on Earth haven't built some proper planetary defenses of their own construction or design by now.
They've had the Asgard knowledge base for more than 2 years and are more than capable of even making a planetary shield using a whole bunch of emitter satellites, which could double up as beam or pulse weapons.
If that takes too long and too many resources, which given that they should have access to dozens if not hundreds of planets with Naqueda, Trinium or Neutronium in reach of our intergalactic hyperdrive capable ships, then just make some small defense ships,
Having something is better than having nothing at all, especially when the likelihood of the Ancient weapons platform getting taken out from orbit was a high possibility, I mean it has no where near the amount of Drones it did when Anubis attacked, probably not even a quarter and being that it was Earth's primary defense any enemy other than the Wraith would have taken a shot at it at some time.

AMCDeathKnight
January 18th, 2009, 05:56 PM
Now that Atlantis is on earth. They can control the drones from the Antarctic site.

Also what happened to the whole phase earth defence thing Carter was working on in season 10.

Mitchell82
January 18th, 2009, 06:20 PM
I imagine if the ZPM was destroyed then the explosion would have been significant, enough to wipe out most of Nevada at least.

More than likely the chair was destroyed by falling debris and the ZPM is just buried, to be retrieved later.

Wohoooo! mY team is going to the Superbowl! *ahem* Sorry for the off topic post. If the ZPM was overloaded yes it would be a massive explosion but just destroying the chair not likely.

jdeterman
January 18th, 2009, 07:38 PM
Now that Atlantis is on earth. They can control the drones from the Antarctic site.

Also what happened to the whole phase earth defence thing Carter was working on in season 10.

The device Carter used to take the entire Earth out of phase would have worked, if they had enough power...In the episode it was used in, powere was diverted from the entire country. Not to say that a ZPM wouldnt have worked....It was busy powering the chair.

Father Jack
January 19th, 2009, 03:54 AM
Does seem that the development of Earth's defense technology has stalled somewhat.

You think with years to study the Asgard technology & database they'd have developed defense satellites or shields for military bases or even cities in case of attack.

When Earth was after the Tollan ion cannons it seemed inevitable that there would be a network of static surface defenses but now they have access to Asgard beam weapons you would have thought that they would have followed the same course.

And since they've found more than one unused Ancient chair they would have had a back up to Earth's only defense and spread the drone launch sites around a bit.

aduk85
January 19th, 2009, 11:56 AM
Does seem that the development of Earth's defense technology has stalled somewhat.

You think with years to study the Asgard technology & database they'd have developed defense satellites or shields for military bases or even cities in case of attack.

When Earth was after the Tollan ion cannons it seemed inevitable that there would be a network of static surface defenses but now they have access to Asgard beam weapons you would have thought that they would have followed the same course.

And since they've found more than one unused Ancient chair they would have had a back up to Earth's only defense and spread the drone launch sites around a bit.


Yep i have to agree with you, although im sure the movie will answer alot of our questions that we currently have.

But all valid points as to why earth hasnt done something by now

Ha'TakFord
January 22nd, 2009, 06:46 AM
They shouldnt need sheilds over citys and bases because they have ships atleast 1 or 2 is close by and they have 5 now. but they should of atleast built a satelite even though the chair is enough thats why they havent built any more technology

Rise Of The Phoenix
January 26th, 2009, 08:42 PM
The chair has a finite amount of ammo and I think it was said in Misbegotten that killing the two Hives would deplete the last of the Drones.
If the outpost got hit from orbit before getting a shot off Earth would be screwed, we have the tech, really the Humans should be focusing on building planetary defenses and not more 304s that could all be away and out of reach when the next enemy comes knocking.

Replicator Todd
January 26th, 2009, 09:21 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if there are more ZPMs on Earth as somehting had to be going on at Earth while everything was happening at Atlantis.

Rasunda
February 2nd, 2009, 08:16 AM
The Odessey has a ZPM but yes there shuld be more ZPM:s buried on earth.