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    How come that no one else than the humans have dicovered nuclear weapons its a basic tech it seems, just some explosoves and uranium/plutonium should not every civilisation realy figure that out? eventualy....like before thay figure out how to make energy weapons and stuff like that?

    And back to the earth ships they have nukes that they can beam inside enemy ships? and they have missiles like VTS (verical launch systems) Why whould not those missiles have nukes? Every ship of capital size in the US navy carries nukes in missiles, why whould they stop doing that just because they are in space. And do not say "blastwawe" or radiation... the radiation in space is already so high that a nuke whould not make any difference... and just beeing able to have a ship in space it must have serious radiation protection.. more than any number of nukes can provide. And the blastwawe and heat from them are not sufficient to harm unless you are at close proximity.... and earth ships have shealds....

    and if I ansered, and know that I could "get away with it".....


    #2
    Originally posted by Apsu View Post
    How come that no one else than the humans have dicovered nuclear weapons its a basic tech it seems, just some explosoves and uranium/plutonium should not every civilisation realy figure that out? eventualy....like before thay figure out how to make energy weapons and stuff like that?

    And back to the earth ships they have nukes that they can beam inside enemy ships? and they have missiles like VTS (verical launch systems) Why whould not those missiles have nukes? Every ship of capital size in the US navy carries nukes in missiles, why whould they stop doing that just because they are in space. And do not say "blastwawe" or radiation... the radiation in space is already so high that a nuke whould not make any difference... and just beeing able to have a ship in space it must have serious radiation protection.. more than any number of nukes can provide. And the blastwawe and heat from them are not sufficient to harm unless you are at close proximity.... and earth ships have shealds....
    first velkom to GW

    second the genii have nuclear tech and the other are so advanced nucler weapons are low to there standart

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      #3
      when a missile hits a shield, its blown to pieces by the kinetic impact, thus removing the nuclear effect.


      a nuke is powerfull because it releases immense amounts of power in milliseconds. most devastating is the shockwave, and the radiation cloud. in space, neither exists. inverse square law makes the radiation nill in no-time, and there's no blast wave. the only explosion is the matter it consists of turned to plasma, being thrown away at immense speed. theres a boom, but the contact a ship has with it is perhaps 30% of the total explosion. the explosion goes the way of least resistance: space.

      a plasma weapon is a precision weapon, great against shields, hulls ETC. not for orbital bombardment, but when was that needed?

      MW: only earth a significant presence
      Pegasus : wraith cull.

      a nuke is crude. its like using old fashioned cannons back in medieval times.

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        #4
        The Goa'uld have nukes. They just use naquadah, which is way better than uranium or plutonium. The trace amounts of naquadah in Cassandra's body would have been able to cause a nuclear explosion, which would have detonated the gate and probably wipe out the human race.

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          #5
          a KNAQ bomb is a naquahdah-potassium charge. possibly used in 302 missiles. as to naquahdah: its a naquahdah enhanced weapon. so probably, uranium is still used

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            #6
            Originally posted by Apsu View Post
            How come that no one else than the humans have dicovered nuclear weapons its a basic tech it seems, just some explosoves and uranium/plutonium should not every civilisation realy figure that out? eventualy....like before thay figure out how to make energy weapons and stuff like that?

            And back to the earth ships they have nukes that they can beam inside enemy ships? and they have missiles like VTS (verical launch systems) Why whould not those missiles have nukes? Every ship of capital size in the US navy carries nukes in missiles, why whould they stop doing that just because they are in space. And do not say "blastwawe" or radiation... the radiation in space is already so high that a nuke whould not make any difference... and just beeing able to have a ship in space it must have serious radiation protection.. more than any number of nukes can provide. And the blastwawe and heat from them are not sufficient to harm unless you are at close proximity.... and earth ships have shealds....
            The Genii have Nukes.
            Kelonans/ Langarans developed the Naquadria bomb.
            The Gould have the potassium/ Naq. bomb.
            All other people have better weapons for space battle or were stymied technologically by the Gould / Wraith.
            supersoldier34sigpic

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              #7
              Not forgetting that most races in MW and PG are at a far lower level of tech than we we to begin with-also the races that are more advanced than us are so advanced that nukes would be used for fireworks for Bonfire night because their normal weapons are far more dangerous

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                #8
                Fission yield produces radionuclides which persist in the ecosystem (cesium, rhubidium, iodine). They are still trying to detoxify the soil in the ecosystem of the bikini islands. If God wanted us to use fission he wouldn't have made the fission products so biologically lethal. A smart civilization wouldn't have anything to do with fission.

                That being said, I enjoy working at nuclear plants because it pays the bills.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by morrismike View Post
                  Fission yield produces radionuclides which persist in the ecosystem (cesium, rhubidium, iodine). They are still trying to detoxify the soil in the ecosystem of the bikini islands. If God wanted us to use fission he wouldn't have made the fission products so biologically lethal. A smart civilization wouldn't have anything to do with fission.

                  That being said, I enjoy working at nuclear plants because it pays the bills.
                  True

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                    #10
                    Life adapts quickly, just look at Chernobyl. Wildlife around Chernobyl is actually doing better than in other parts of Ukraine.

                    Also, humans are not the first lifeforms on earth to utilize fission, bacterias are.

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                      #11
                      Asgard wouldn't use nukes because of collateral human deaths, wraith wouldn't either (similar reason), Ancients wouldn't because they're enviro-hippies. And Goa'uld probably prefer squeezing the life out of people face to face wherever possible. They give it that personal touch.
                      Wraith ships are giant lobsters.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Xiphias View Post
                        Asgard wouldn't use nukes because of collateral human deaths, wraith wouldn't either (similar reason), Ancients wouldn't because they're enviro-hippies. And Goa'uld probably prefer squeezing the life out of people face to face wherever possible. They give it that personal touch.
                        LOL I love the Goa'uld- Soon you will see massive Asgard, Wraith, Ancient and Goa'uld numbers joining C.N.D.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by supersoldier34 View Post
                          The Genii have Nukes.
                          Kelonans/ Langarans developed the Naquadria bomb.
                          The Gould have the potassium/ Naq. bomb.
                          All other people have better weapons for space battle or were stymied technologically by the Gould / Wraith.
                          Correct, The Kelownans had probably the best human version of a bomb. whilst the Genii was very much incomplete as seen in TheSiege we do not know if they ever finished constructing them to our standards.



                          Originally posted by jnadreth View Post
                          Not forgetting that most races in MW and PG are at a far lower level of tech than we we to begin with-also the races that are more advanced than us are so advanced that nukes would be used for fireworks for Bonfire night because their normal weapons are far more dangerous
                          The Genii are barely able to create such technology and if we did not come along they would not be so close to completing them. TheTravellers may have some sort of bomb but we have never encountered it.
                          Everyone else in Pegasus is too primative to create such a weapon unfortunatley due to the wraith

                          Originally posted by Xiphias View Post
                          Asgard wouldn't use nukes because of collateral human deaths, wraith wouldn't either (similar reason), Ancients wouldn't because they're enviro-hippies. And Goa'uld probably prefer squeezing the life out of people face to face wherever possible. They give it that personal touch.
                          Correct on both it would be against the Asgards High Moral Code to do something like this. Goa'uld yes prefer to see there victims die face to face as it gives them pleasure. And the Wraith would prefer to feed than whipe out without a meal!

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                            #14
                            thats not entirely true. If there is a rising in whildlife, its becaus no one can eat the meat from those animals. I know that here in Sweden we still have to high mesurements in mushrooms for eating. And ouer native people that breed raindeer, still have to give them special fodder (high in Iodone) to keep the meat eateble.

                            and if I ansered, and know that I could "get away with it".....

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                              #15
                              well, fission is very polluting. fusion is much cleaner.

                              but back to the point: is it better to see people fearing your heavenly might, while slowly being killed by bolts of plasma, or just to wipe it off the charts at once, not enjoying the horror of the people below. besides, if the wraith use nukes, then hoffa wouldve been a nuclear wasteland. instead, the planet was actually usefull. people could just settle down again, and serve as wraith food

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