Timeline of the ship launch

[h22chen]

I surmise that it occurred before the Ori/Alteran split?

Or "height" of the Ancient civilization means it was launched from the Milky Way? (after the split, height of the scientist faction)

That means there's no "height" of the Alteran civilization (before the Ori/scientists split) since I would consider the time just before the schism (or war) would be the height.

[ori soldier]

I surmise that it occurred before the Ori/Alteran split?

Or "height" of the Ancient civilization means it was launched from the Milky Way? (after the split, height of the scientist faction)

That means there's no "height" of the Alteran civilization (before the Ori/scientists split) since I would consider the time just before the schism (or war) would be the height.

they hadnt created the stargate before the split no i reckon they launched it before fleeing pegasus

[stargatefan234]

they hadnt created the stargate before the split no i reckon they launched it before fleeing pegasus

My understanding is it was launched before atlantis was built.

it couldnt have been launched before the split as stargates (apparantly) didnt exist untill the alterans left the home galaxy.

[editorguy]

It's a seeder ship... so I'd imagine it was launched from Earth. It's the first wave that seeds life and Stargates through out a Galaxy. That's my guess.

[Achiles]

Altearns landed on Dakar first so it might have been launched from there but it was after the split and before the run to Pegasuses.

[tk9780]

I always understood that the Ori / Alteran were once a single race living together in far way galaxy. Until civil-War forced the ‘Alterans’ to escape and try seek sanctuary far away within the Milkway galaxy. Sometime later a virus epidemic forced the Alteran to leave the milk-way galaxy and yet again seek sanctuary within the Pegasus galaxy. Later having to returning too Earth to escaping the Wrath. Could completely wrong as some episodes of SG/SA contradict each other in the telling of ‘gate-world’ history.

[jenks]

I would assume the height of the Ancient civilization would be considered either during the construction of Vis Uban when the plague broke out, or during the Ancients time in Atlantis when they were at their most advanced technologically. I doubt it would have been any time before the split with the Ori.

[h22chen]

Thank you all for the replies. =)

I thought that the Stargate were available before the schism, but it looks like the Ori developed their own version later then. Thanks.

[RepliVeggie]

It seems to me that the Destiny going by the concept art was built ALONG time before Atlantis was built. Million years or more maybe. Im guessing it was sent out maybe 500k to 1 million years after making their home in MW.

[toby1kanobi]

My understanding is it was launched before atlantis was built.

it couldnt have been launched before the split as stargates (apparantly) didnt exist untill the alterans left the home galaxy.


it may have been lanched either befor or after the alteran/ori split, it is hard to speculate. however the gates in the ori galaxy and the pegasus are what i call mk2 gates, the milkey way gates are mk1 (pegasus and ori galaxy gates are didital dialers ((the whole address is dialed at once)) the milkey gates are analogue dialers ((each part of the address is dialed seperate)) this differance i assume to be an advancement made to the gates by the ancients. perhaps the gates on milkey way were placed by hand in th first wave where as the pegasus and ori gates were sent by remote ship (the destiny) as a phase 2) hence newr gates. and by that same dint the ori would have known there were gates in the galaxy they fled to because the destiny left before they did

[toby1kanobi]

i think my gate theory is sound

[Mclean]

It supposedly launched millions of years before Atlantis.

[toby1kanobi]

It supposedly launched millions of years before Atlantis.

true but unfortunatly for us there is no set out "official" time line to the gate systems incept, but i do recolect a line in an episide saying that the alterans/ori came TO this galaxy before the split (the galaxy was never named) but it was hinted that it wasnt pegasus of the ori galaxy so maybe there is a forth galaxy where it all began. i wonder if the is an ark to alteran tech ie the gates and the destiny were built/set in motion at the height of advancement, whilst atlantis and aurora ships came during the decline (were tech secrets lost by this time, after all the destiny is millions of years old, whats powering it, what are its defences. zpm's run out and so do drones, mmaybe it can manufacture its own (wouldnt that be cool?):cool:

[RepliVeggie]

what are its defences. zpm's run out and so do drones, mmaybe it can manufacture its own (wouldnt that be cool?):cool:

This is all things I am very curious about. I think we are gonna be aboard a city ship as it was designed to follow the seeder ship and colonize galaxies. Im guessing the tech we will find there won't be too far off from the tech the Alterans had when they left their home galaxy. This will do 2 things. 1. The tech level will be so much lower then we are used to so they can actually use the tech unlike in Atlantis where it would make us unbeatable so they rarely use tech. And 2. They can create a new enemy without creating an enemy stronger then the Ancients were at their height.

I don't think the writers will ever make a race more advanced then the Ancients were. And this is a good thing IMO. Several MILLION years of advancements.

[Mclean]

true but unfortunatly for us there is no set out "official" time line to the gate systems incept, but i do recolect a line in an episide saying that the alterans/ori came TO this galaxy before the split (the galaxy was never named) but it was hinted that it wasnt pegasus of the ori galaxy so maybe there is a forth galaxy where it all began. i wonder if the is an ark to alteran tech ie the gates and the destiny were built/set in motion at the height of advancement, whilst atlantis and aurora ships came during the decline (were tech secrets lost by this time, after all the destiny is millions of years old, whats powering it, what are its defences. zpm's run out and so do drones, mmaybe it can manufacture its own (wouldnt that be cool?):cool:

The Alterans came to this galaxy after the split from the Ori.

[DigiFluid]

My guess is that it was launched at the peak of Milky Way civilization, and that Pegasus was the first galaxy seeded. That way, the Wraith war and retreat back to our galaxy explains why the Ancients abandoned the project.

[toby1kanobi]

im not so shure they woulldnt have a race more advanced than the alterans lucking out there somewhere, whoever they are (if there is) have had 7million years to advance, atleast 10,000 of those without the alterans around to keep the peace, i use the "evil" pegesus asgard as my case in point, having lantean levels of tech may not be an advantage if like the pegasus asgard, they can bypass ancient shields. i personialy dont think the tech on the destiny will be any less impressive than there is onboard atlantis. just like the romans did in real life the ancients may have advanced to a point where further major development was impossibe and all they do (or in the romans case) was redesign what they allready had as new "fashions" take hold. and a thing that is niggeling me (i hate not knowing something) atlantis is not capable of being in space indefinately bu the destiny has been out there for millions of years and is presumably still operational (it would certainly need shields (7 million years is a very long time to not get destroyed by stray metiors of comets by luck alone). what do you think (and heres something that will get you thinking) could the device that rodney fount that channels energy from a parrellel universe as a sort of inexhaustable zpm (u know which i mean) could that have been a trial of an old idea that they didnt quite get rite second time. ie is a functional version powering the destiny

[Celesto]

It supposedly launched millions of years before Atlantis.

thats a guess :). i hope that there are a lot of open questions, which actually will be answered in SGU. that should make the success of the series. i m sooooo snoooopy.

[RepliVeggie]

im not so shure they woulldnt have a race more advanced than the alterans lucking out there somewhere, whoever they are (if there is) have had 7million years to advance, atleast 10,000 of those without the alterans around to keep the peace, i use the "evil" pegesus asgard as my case in point, having lantean levels of tech may not be an advantage if like the pegasus asgard, they can bypass ancient shields. i personialy dont think the tech on the destiny will be any less impressive than there is onboard atlantis. just like the romans did in real life the ancients may have advanced to a point where further major development was impossibe and all they do (or in the romans case) was redesign what they allready had as new "fashions" take hold. and a thing that is niggeling me (i hate not knowing something) atlantis is not capable of being in space indefinately bu the destiny has been out there for millions of years and is presumably still operational (it would certainly need shields (7 million years is a very long time to not get destroyed by stray metiors of comets by luck alone). what do you think (and heres something that will get you thinking) could the device that rodney fount that channels energy from a parrellel universe as a sort of inexhaustable zpm (u know which i mean) could that have been a trial of an old idea that they didnt quite get rite second time. ie is a functional version powering the destiny



Those ships weren't theirs. I am 100% sure of it. The Ships look like big puddle jumpers. Their level of tech was FAR below our Asgard friends level.



And the concept art of the ship just screams old.

[toby1kanobi]

i must admit it dus look old rather than a different styl;e. but a man can dream. i wonder if the pegasus asgard stole ancient ships and are now using them, ur quite right they do look like big jumpers, if they are indeed old ancient tech that may explain why they were so pants in ship to ship combat